fat bitch

[Calaen]

Aye, there needs to be effort, but imagine if you were overweight and there were two choices;

- Government gives you 600 more/month.
- Government helps you lose that weight.

Which would you take? If we take this choice away and the government actually CARED about fixing the problem, it would work better for the person and for the government, as they would get the costs back in NHS costs etc. Now the cahs spent is cash lost, pure and simple.

Not putting blame fully on the schoolfood system, put it's part of the problem like home education.

If the home education is ok, but school is not = chances are that you won't end up like this.
If the home education is poor, but school education is ok = similar increase in chances.

The option is easy take the 600 quid a month and lose the weight yourself, you appear to be engrossed in the fact it's the governments fault that people are fat.

People make there own decisions, the majority of fat people are there because they choose to be. Because they are too fucking useless to do anything about it, the ones that do lose weight deserve alot of credit. But the other 85% that are on a diet every other three days are a waste of fresh air.

 

[Marc]

The comments at the bottom of the article are hilarious

 

[old.Tohtori]

The option is easy take the 600 quid a month and lose the weight yourself, you appear to be engrossed in the fact it's the governments fault that people are fat.

I'm not actually, just pointing out what should be done instead of what is being done.

Do you find it a stupid iudea for the government to help the people to lose weight instead of handing out cash?

What particular point of what i suggested to do you disagree on?

 

[TheBinarySurfer]

Benefit cuts force me to eat unhealthy chocolate and crisps, says Sussex woman (From The Argus)

glorious england


+edit: i honest to god hope she dies

Why are we in this handbasket and where are we going?

 

[Zita]

the ones that do lose weight deserve alot of credit. .

No they dont ;d

 

[Bugz]

This country is a fuckin' disgrace.

 

[cHodAX]

She had a gastric bypass as it was the easy option for her. Stuff like this drives me insane, fat people are fat because they eat too much and are too apathetic to do something about it.

Sorry but the bypass isn't an easy option for anyone, the mortality rate is about 2% from surgery and about 5% when you factor in complications. Then add in secondary infections like MRSA and C.diff, chronic mal-absorbtion of vitamins and minerals or 100 other things that can go wrong. Seriously, it is never the easy the option and for many people it is the only option that consistently works. Don't judge all people who have gastric surgery against this lazy peice of shite woman.

 

[Zita]

Sorry but the bypass isn't an easy option for anyone, the mortality rate is about 2% from surgery and about 5% when you factor in complications. Then add in secondary infections like MRSA and C.diff, chronic mal-absorbtion of vitamins and minerals or 100 other things that can go wrong. Seriously, it is never the easy the option and for many people it is the only option that consistently works. Don't judge all people who have gastric surgery against this lazy peice of shite woman.

Tbh, surely the person who lets themselves get to fat as to need a bypass, is taking the easy option?

 

[Garaen]

Sorry but the bypass isn't an easy option for anyone, the mortality rate is about 2% from surgery and about 5% when you factor in complications. Then add in secondary infections like MRSA and C.diff, chronic mal-absorbtion of vitamins and minerals or 100 other things that can go wrong. Seriously, it is never the easy the option and for many people it is the only option that consistently works. Don't judge all people who have gastric surgery against this lazy peice of shite woman.

I consider it the easy option because people who opt for the operation generally want quick results with minimal effort. I'm making a massive generalisation here, but I would hazard a guess that a majority of people that are that overweight in order to need a gastric bypass are depressed because of their weight and consider the risk worth it. After all, any operation which uses general anaesthetic has a chance of killing the person due to complications.

 

[echome]

Tbh, surely the person who lets themselves get to fat as to need a bypass, is taking the easy option?

I consider it the easy option because people who opt for the operation generally want quick results with minimal effort. I'm making a massive generalisation here, but I would hazard a guess that a majority of people that are that overweight in order to need a gastric bypass are depressed because of their weight and consider the risk worth it. After all, any operation which uses general anaesthetic has a chance of killing the person due to complications.

Easy? I think of it as a kickstart instead. It will still be very hard afterwards and you need a serious diet but it helps you to begin with. The effect will work off over time and you will be able to eat more and more - this is when the real test starts.
People who take this chance do not do it because it is fun(IT IS NOT!) but to change their life. Try to remember that instead of talking trash like that.

 

[Zita]

Easy? I think of it as a kickstart instead. It will still be very hard afterwards and you need a serious diet but it helps you to begin with. The effect will work off over time and you will be able to eat more and more - this is when the real test starts.
People who take this chance do not do it because it is fun(IT IS NOT!) but to change their life. Try to remember that instead of talking trash like that.

Hmmmm, why did they need it in the first place? BECAUSE THEY ATE TO FUCKING MUCH. Its there own fault meight.

 

[Huntingtons]

you're stupid.

 

[cHodAX]

Tbh, surely the person who lets themselves get to fat as to need a bypass, is taking the easy option?

So my friend who has spent the last 3 years on crutches because he has suffered severe nerve damage in his back let himself get fat? No. He had health problems as many people do which means they cannot burn enough calories, some also suffer from depression or thyroid problems and cannot help themselves. Yes there are tons of fat people who just eat way too much shit and don't exercise but alot of the people who have a bypass do so because they have other contributary health problems. You can't judge all people by the same standards you judge her on, there are plenty of legit people out there who need the bypass and undertaking highly invasive surgery is never an easy option for anyone.

 

[cHodAX]

I consider it the easy option because people who opt for the operation generally want quick results with minimal effort. I'm making a massive generalisation here, but I would hazard a guess that a majority of people that are that overweight in order to need a gastric bypass are depressed because of their weight and consider the risk worth it. After all, any operation which uses general anaesthetic has a chance of killing the person due to complications.

Yes, a massive generalisation. There are lot of people as you describe but there are lots of others for whom a bypass is the only viable way of regaining thier health because of other medical conditions which mean they cannot exercise.

Oh and for the record, my friend had the operation when he was 24stone about 18 months ago. He recently hit his target weight of 11 stone, his blood pressure problems have disappeared so he no longer need medication for that, his painkiller usage has been cut in half although he will always have some degree of pain due to the nerve damage. He is now well enough to hold down a part time job and is looking to return to full time work later in the year.

The bypass saved his life it is that simple but more than that it enabled him to be a productive member of society who can pay back the taxes than enabled the surgery.

 

[Garaen]

Yes, a massive generalisation. There are lot of people as you describe but there are lots of others for whom a bypass is the only viable way of regaining thier health because of other medical conditions which mean they cannot exercise.

Oh and for the record, my friend had the operation when he was 24stone about 18 months ago. He recently hit his target weight of 11 stone, his blood pressure problems have disappeared so he no longer need medication for that, his painkiller usage has been cut in half although he will always have some degree of pain due to the nerve damage. He is now well enough to hold down a part time job and is looking to return to full time work later in the year.

The bypass saved his life it is that simple but more than that it enabled him to be a productive member of society who can pay back the taxes than enabled the surgery.

I'm glad to hear that the operation worked, your friend is in a somewhat unique position though as the nerve damage prevented him from losing the weight in a conventional manner and i fully support the need for an operation in that case. Was the nerve damage as a result of his extreme weight or did the nerve damage occur and his lack of movement caused him to put the weight on?

 

[Zita]

So my friend who has spent the last 3 years on crutches because he has suffered severe nerve damage in his back let himself get fat? No. He had health problems as many people do which means they cannot burn enough calories, some also suffer from depression or thyroid problems and cannot help themselves. Yes there are tons of fat people who just eat way too much shit and don't exercise but alot of the people who have a bypass do so because they have other contributary health problems. You can't judge all people by the same standards you judge her on, there are plenty of legit people out there who need the bypass and undertaking highly invasive surgery is never an easy option for anyone.

I said the people who LET them selves? Not the people that have no choice ><

 

[echome]

Hmmmm, why did they need it in the first place? BECAUSE THEY ATE TO FUCKING MUCH. Its there own fault meight.

I could not think of anything to say... other than good luck in life and I am sure you will do great things.

 

[Zenith]

Hmmmm, why did they need it in the first place? BECAUSE THEY ATE TO FUCKING MUCH. Its there own fault meight.

Believe me mister, its not that easy. Some people have fucked up bodies, absorbing 120% of what you eat plus the situation with eating disorders plus psychologyfactors.

 

[CorNokZ]

How can you absorb more than you eat? Air and water has calories now!?

 

[gohan]

well when u absorb more than u eat, and are natrually big bonned and factor in on top of that ur unnatraul water rentention, then well


i cant be your fault that u had mccy D's every day for 6 years :<, that fuckign goverment

 

[CorNokZ]

Believe me mister, its not that easy. Some people have fucked up bodies, absorbing 120% of what you eat plus the situation with eating disorders plus psychologyfactors.

Just had another thought about this..

Did you even think before you wrote this? It's fucking retarded!

120% = You absorb MORE than you actually eat which means you will never poop! WHERE DO THE EXTRA 20% COME FROM!?

 

[Lightfighter]

I'm not actually, just pointing out what should be done instead of what is being done.

Do you find it a stupid idea for the government to help the people to lose weight instead of handing out cash?

What particular point of what i suggested to do you disagree on?

Your plan for the government to educate people might sound good in theory, but it might be harder to acctually apply.

The government can educate someone as much as they want, if that person lacks the willpower to acctually act, they might need support, since the government can't just abbandon them . You can't expect everyone to be able to loose weight, those who can't will need that support.

And since we can't get rid of the support system, many people would most likely take the "lazy road" and chose the support over an educational system if such a system were to exist today, as already stated in this thread.

If a person however DOES have the willpower to loose weight, they don't need the government to help them with that, they can find out themselves. It's true some "government-education" could help along the way, but it shouldn't be essential.

Also another point: An educational system probably wouldn't help people as much as you think, people's weight-problems are often unique and needs to be dealt with personally for the best result. An average generic "eat this, do that"-education might not cut it for most people, making this strategy expensive and (to a more or less extent) ineffective.

Surely you're not the first one to think of this possibility, but if there was a simple answer like "just give em' education m8s" there wouldn't be any weight problems, but there simply istn't a good enough solution, so you're stuck with this. You have it for a reason.

Let's hope those who've made the system like it is considered the different possibilities very delicately and deduced that this was the best way to go about the problem...

 

[cHodAX]

I'm glad to hear that the operation worked, your friend is in a somewhat unique position though as the nerve damage prevented him from losing the weight in a conventional manner and i fully support the need for an operation in that case. Was the nerve damage as a result of his extreme weight or did the nerve damage occur and his lack of movement caused him to put the weight on?

Nah, he had been having back problems for a while and then blew 2 discs out at once, the NHS pissed him around for months and all that time with the discs compressing the nerve caused permanent damage. Very similair to my own problems infact but to a greater degree. His weight spiraled out of control though because he couldn't walk very much and became depressed quickly.

Oh and it isn't as rare as you think, a great many people who have had spinal surgery end up with weight issues because of nerve damage. I myself was 5 stone overweight at the start of the year, luckily my third spinal surgery in February and the physiotherapy following it has helped me drop 3 stone but the operation I had was a big risk which could have left me in a wheelchair.

The point I have been trying to make in this thread is that there are alot of people who are overweight and sometimes heavily overweight as the result of other medical conditions. Those are the people that need and deserve the gastric bypass, not some thick and lazy bitch who is trying to con the public into supporting her.

 

[cHodAX]

Just had another thought about this..

Did you even think before you wrote this? It's fucking retarded!

120% = You absorb MORE than you actually eat which means you will never poop! WHERE DO THE EXTRA 20% COME FROM!?

Water retention most likely, every fat cell in the body is attached to 3 cells of water iirc or something like that. Some people are very prone to water retention for some reason.

 

[Zita]

Believe me mister, its not that easy. Some people have fucked up bodies, absorbing 120% of what you eat plus the situation with eating disorders plus psychologyfactors.

Lol

 

[Zita]

I could not think of anything to say... other than good luck in life and I am sure you will do great things.

Thanks

 

[old.Tohtori]

Also another point: An educational system probably wouldn't help people as much as you think, people's weight-problems are often unique and needs to be dealt with personally for the best result. An average generic "eat this, do that"-education might not cut it for most people, making this strategy expensive and (to a more or less extent) ineffective.

Surely you're not the first one to think of this possibility, but if there was a simple answer like "just give em' education m8s" there wouldn't be any weight problems, but there simply istn't a good enough solution, so you're stuck with this. You have it for a reason.

Let's hope those who've made the system like it is considered the different possibilities very delicately and deduced that this was the best way to go about the problem...

You're basing your argument on the same thing that everyone else does; This won't solve anything because of X problems in it.

IT's part of the solution, swap extra cash for a trainer is the simplest. I'm nto going to plan the whole system as i don't know how your government works, but it would be better then simply going "take money you fatties". My solution also isn't "just give them education m8s", you seeing it as such says more about you.

I'm not talking about a fat camp wheere men in leather tights scream "Eat thiz and run hear!!" i'm talking about personal help. It's not as expensive and the benefits would work. Also the ripple effect from it, people telling people how to lose weight, not subjecting their own kids to crap etc is something you can't even speculate on.

Saying it's "the best it gets" is the simple minded apathy people have, that has basically lead the UK from the mighty empire it was, to the chav fatty generation it is now. Hell, you lot can't even speak english anymore.(not all)

Those who've made the system haven't, most likely like with all government systems, thought about the best solutiopn, but A: their own hide and B: money.

Or am i missing something? Was the UK popupous happy with their government systems on last check?

You need to educate the people, in schools, at home and stop throwing money at problems that will only make it worse.

 

[kiliarien]

Even after the drastic weight loss she's 22 stone??

Fat cow, I'll donate a MacDonalds to her demise. Tax payers' money should be spent on better things than fat retards.

 

[tris-]

but used the money to teach them how to eat properly, how to battle weight etc, they wouldn't have this problem and the people could move away from extra benefits more easily.

Im not talking for any other country, but in England we have exactly this. It is shoved in your face during every ad break and there is leaflets and cards about it all over the place. Pretty sure I have even seen it at the cinema. It does exactly what youre saying people need.

Tips for healthy kids and families - Change4Life

 

[Raven]

Schools and the Government are very healthy eating obsessive in the UK, there is always some sort of campaign going on with adverts on TV, in magazines etc. Its nobodies fault but your own if you choose to ignore the advice. Getting benefits because you choose to eat only things that are unhealthy is just plain wrong. Even if this fat bitch can't afford to go to the gym there are things you can do without it, exercise at home, go for a walk etc, get a bloody pushbike!

Yes some people can't help getting fat, some people do store fat differently to others. If I even look at something fatty I put on weight, I wouldn't say I am overweight but I am comfortable Its a family thing really, to look at my dad you would say he is fat, yet he was in the paras for 22 years and still runs the marathon every year, he is in his early 50s. My wife is the exact opposite, she eats twice as much as I do and is skinny as anything, when she was younger they tested her for all sorts of things because she was below weight, they even thought she had an eating disorder. She has filled out a little now she is older but she is still slim.


There is plenty of help you can get from the good'ol NHS, if you want it that is.