fat and thin!

[tris-]

ive been watching trisha this morning (what eva FH, i do what i want ) and its on the topic of fattys and skinnys.

some girl has modelled her self to be like victoria beckham, do you think thats attractive? personally i think shes one of the ugliest bitches going, bones sticking out left and right dont do it for me.

why do you dislike fat and thin people? is it because you dont want them to be unhealthy, think its not aesthetically pleasing or you just assume they are lazy? do you reckon fat people are just bubbly because they are trying to be accepted and inside they arnt comfortable with them selves? do skinnny people just slag off fat people because they really dont want to be skinny?

apparently the UK is now the fattest country in europe, is that really a problem? its not like we are french, people are just generally fat. it doesnt really bother me if people enjoy being fat so be it, and equally if they want to be skinny then i have to wonder what mental health problems they have. i do seem to have more of a problem with skinny people though, i think its down to the attitude they have.

 

[old.Tohtori]

Well, i have no problem with someone having "some" weight. I don't want a stick to stick around. Though i don't mind it either. But what i can't stand is OVER happy fat people.

You know, the ones who are super duper happy joyjoy until they have a few drinks, break down and cry how fat they are, scream at the top of their lungs like an angry mastodont and so forth.

On yout topic though, yes, i find most REALLY fat people are just being lazy, while saying that i realise that it CAN be a medical problem too.

So...hmm...i try my bestest to not get hooked up with a big one, but if i do, she better be really something special.

Small girls are easier to whisk around anyway

EDIT: Oh and no trisha jokes 'cause i don't wanna.

 

[tris-]

On yout topic though, yes, i find most REALLY fat people are just being lazy, while saying that i realise that it CAN be a medical problem too.

in some cases i think id agree. i used to be REALLY fat, around a 46" waist though at the time i couldnt find any faults in my life style. ive lost about 6 stone since then and down to a 35" waist. when i look back i still cant see what i was doing wrong and now i dont know what im doing right. i could of course have AIDs are something like that or i may of just made some extremely subtle changes.

 

[old.Tohtori]

People don't usually realise that it's the little things that amount to a biiig stinking pile of sssssuplements to the weightloss.

Add a carrot a day, change from white bread, use a miniscule amount less of fat, cut down on sugar a teaspoon, walk to the next busstop, walk from the busstop that's before your stop, heck, even moving around the flat more helps.

And the most important i think is time. People think "Oh i'll go dieting and eat a carrot a day and i'll be fit in week".

I used to be really skinny, still am, but morbid even. I started eating MORE fat and do three pushups, situps, whatnots, just like a minute in the morning and before bed(which helped me sleep too) and in two months i got quite a bit of mass to not be the skeletor i used to be.

 

[Gorbachioo]

I never pick on fat people or anything like that, but I cant say that its "ok" to be fat. Just like its not "ok" to smoke either. It ruins their health and it costs alot of money to treat them. Money that could be used for something else.
(Like helping people that arent responsible of their own need of help.)

 

[Haggus]

it's Lazyness. Simply.

You can eat what you want and still be skinny. It's HOW you eat it.

There's no excuse for being fat apart from your own greedyness and lazyness.

 

[MegaMaejter]

Not sure what your question is. But I do believe it has been many studies on the subject of what men and women generally are drawn/attracted to.

For men the barbie, timeglass shape is the perfered one due to the fact it manifests health, and vitality.

Women just go with old, vrinkly rich goldenbois

 

[old.Tohtori]

For men the barbie, timeglass shape is the perfered one due to the fact it manifests health, and vitality.

Actually in the old days it wasn't. Then the Fattyma Fatson from Fatsonville was the prime candidate for Sluts R Us magazine

It differs over times, but nowadays the only reason for liking a fit girl over a fat is..well..she's fit. And she looks better. It's in ze eyes.

 

[Overdriven]

it's Lazyness. Simply.

You can eat what you want and still be skinny. It's HOW you eat it.

There's no excuse for being fat apart from your own greedyness and lazyness.

Of course you don't take into consideration the metabolism involved? It's a bitch for me to lose weight (it happens, slowly) and I exercise often and watch what I eat.

Friend is 9stone, eats constant crap and never gains weight. -_- Pisses me off.

 

[old.Tohtori]

Friend is 9stone, eats constant crap and never gains weight. -_- Pisses me off.

You should feel lucky. Your friend also absorbs very little nutrients(if there's any in crap) and other thingidoodaas. You're healthier even if you're not fitter then he is

 

[Overdriven]

You should feel lucky. Your friend also absorbs very little nutrients(if there's any in crap) and other thingidoodaas. You're healthier even if you're not fitter then he is

Still, that's gay o_o I'm not QQing at my build/weight (well, weight I am; since I forgot to keep a track of what I've eaten since SUNDAY and gained 1/2 stone -_- Back to losing it now.. Lame)

5"10, 13.5 stone (was under 13, sunday) Bigger frame. - Dropped from 15-16 Yay.


Just people who never gain weight and complain they're too thin/can't gain it need to think about the people who can't actually lose the weight.

 

[Gamah]

Im not skinny, nor am I morbidly obese, I am a 38 waist which is chubby I would say.

I however eat shit..choc, crisps fizzy drinks you name it I do it.. However, the key difference is I also try to eat a a balanced diet..I try to eat 5 a day, salads, white meat, fruit juices, fruit.

The thing is, even though I am eating liek crap I am LOOSING weight (4 lbs in 3 weeks) as I do one little thing..I ride to work (hilly area) and go out at the weekends for a 2/3 hour ride with a friend..

Why? NOT because I care about losing weight..but because it makes you feel good! I have legs of steel and a belly of jelly but being fit and being fat are different things as long as you are fit your doing your part..

Yeah I have started a new job where the area I ride is hilly so I guess eventually I will get to say a 34 waist..(for my frame a 34 waist would be about right I would say) but I am not going on a strictly salad based diet to loose weight.

People go on these diets where you can like only eat 1400 kcals a day and no meat and nothing that's tastes good..all they need to do is GET OFF THEIR FAT ARSES AND DO SOME FUCKING EXERCISE.

One mate laughed at me and called me an unfit fatty, so I said come riding with me..and as suspected after about 5 miles he was almost dead while I was warming up.

Nothing wrong with having some fat on you as long as you are fit, being fit gives you a zest for life and no way will I ever go back to daoc days where I sat down all the time, the outdoors is amazing and exercise is part of my life now..those people that sit down on chairs all weekend watching tv are seriously missing out on the beautiful things in life.

 

[Dandare]

I'd rather have something to grab a hold of, like size 12-14 depending on height.
I respect people that are over-weight but hate people that are over weight and moan and pretend diet all the time.

Reminds me of my ex-wife spending our money on new clothes and asking me if her new trousers made her bum look big.....to which my reply would be (normally drunken) " No it's all the fucking crisps and chocolate you eat what makes it look that way"

Maybe why we did'nt stay together......

 

[Gamah]

My GF is cool about that, she's a size 10 but has been eating shit and getting a bit fatter.

She was like my belly's coming back, to which I replied "I know, I guess you have been trying to get a Ginsters loyalty card again" to which we both laughed..cant stand women who would fly off the handle at that.

 

[tris-]

Not sure what your question is.

its just before all the question marks

 

[Gamah]

P.S I watched Jeremy Karl to see how the bums live today! Strangely engrossing!

 

[MegaMaejter]

Actually in the old days it wasn't. Then the Fattyma Fatson from Fatsonville was the prime candidate for Sluts R Us magazine

It differs over times, but nowadays the only reason for liking a fit girl over a fat is..well..she's fit. And she looks better. It's in ze eyes.

Oh yah thats true, also culture depending. In alot of African countries still a "big" girl is more desireable then a thin one, but I hence that is based on that she is more fit for breeding .

I think the timeglass shape is an evolved version from that. Then again stuides say that its like embedded in the male dna to prefer "timeglass" shaped females, wich in a way contradicts to what you said. Then again fashion and natural instincts is not the same.

Ramble on!

 

[MegaMaejter]

its just before all the question marks

You headen!

Sporty spice 4tw!

On a serious note, becks aint that tall or musculer either, would not look well having a girl who is lager then himself, hence the sizedown

 

[Dandare]

P.S I watched Jeremy Karl to see how the bums live today! Strangely engrossing!

Jezza rocks!!!

Nothing better to watch a 32 stone woman crying cos her liver is fucked from drinking 20 cans of stella a day.

Kinda brightens my day and makes things not seem so bad.

 

[Azurus]

It all depends on metabolism really.

Im 6'4 and 13 stone, i tried to bulk out abit maybe put a stone on as i was moving to playing center in rugby instead of out on the wing, but i found that incredibly hard only managed to put on half a stone in 6 months.

 

[Urgluf]

It all depends on metabolism really.

Im 6'4 and 13 stone, i tried to bulk out abit maybe put a stone on as i was moving to playing center in rugby instead of out on the wing, but i found that incredibly hard only managed to put on half a stone in 6 months.

drink alot of diet coke to destroy your metabolism

 

[Overdriven]

drink alot of diet coke to destroy your metabolism

I had a can of that yesterday and enjoyed it =( first time I've touched it since Jan =( *Cries*

 

[Tasslehoff]

Jezza rocks!!!

Nothing better to watch a 32 stone woman crying cos her liver is fucked from drinking 20 cans of stella a day.

Kinda brightens my day and makes things not seem so bad.

Rofl, you are sick. Funny, but sick

 

[Haggus]

people who goto Mcdonalds and have a large big mac meal with a DIET coke reall piss me off !!!

I'm 6"2 I think and way around 12stone. I have a 30-32 waist and I think I could loose more wieght. I think the only reason i'm this way is because I eat what I eat otherwise I would be really skinny. I do however walk about 5miles a day (fast paste) and eat very rarely. (I work in a busy bar about 10hours a day 5days a week)

Lazy ? I think has alot to do with it. I can't stand sitting at home on my two days off I would rather be working and doing stuff but my boss wont let me :/

 

[raid]

People go on these diets where you can like only eat 1400 kcals a day and no meat and nothing that's tastes good..all they need to do is GET OFF THEIR FAT ARSES AND DO SOME FUCKING EXERCISE.

This is definitely not applicable for everyone. Like ppl already said, it depends a lot on metabolism etc individual stuff. Now I dont want to make a /cry post, just share some personal experiences:

For the past 8 months I have exercised 5-6 times a week (weight training 3, cardio 2-3 times) and my weight has been alternating between 83kg - 88kg all the time, currently around 85kg. Generally I eat very clean high protein diet (2200ish kcal), but I normally have a cheat day once a week when I eat more carbs and total calories often go over 3000 kcal. In order to effectively lose weight I need to skip the cheat days or eat very little the normal days, but then it becomes a real mental challenge and I havent been able to take up on it yet. Sure I've probably gained some muscle mass and lost abit of fat, but my waist measurement has barely changed.

According to every calculator on web, with my activity level I should lose weight even if I ate 3000 kcal every day, yet that is complete bullshit. (For months I used to log every bit of food I put into my mouth so my calories are very accurate)

There's an excellent article on T-nation about the subject, Former Fat Boy handbook http://www.t-nation.com/findArticle.do?article=05-118-diet

 

[Vladamir]

Be careful what you read on T-nation, theres a lot of bullshit on it.

@ people who can't gain weight or lose it it's simple;

Kcals in > kcals out = weight gain.

Timings and food sources are also important. I went from 11st to 14 st 9 in under a year because i was clued up

 

[liloe]

I eat what I want, I've lived on pizza and ready-made noodles for more than a week etc. I don't want to tell you my weight, cause you'd laugh ^^ but I'm really really thing and there is noting I can change about it. It was always like that and it's kinda in the family....so much for me.

I prefer thin girls, but as long as it's within an ok margin, weight is not the first thing I look at. Hm, personal preference is one of the hardest things to explain =) It's just that I like girls who are generally funny and with a smile on their face, but that's the same for all people I meet =) I don't mind a lot of talking aswell, cause I like to talk a lot, too ^^

 

[cHodAX]

I really fancy fat women, men too...

Signed

Docwolfe aka Pinky

 

[raid]

Kcals in > kcals out = weight gain.

ofc, but the absolute amounts seem to vary a lot depending on the individual (even with same weight and activity level), and some people need to go really far away from "comfort zone" to get anything to change.

 

[Vladamir]

I really fancy fat women, men too...

Signed

Docwolfe aka Pinky

Chubby chaser