Fastest Hib toon: PVE levelling

[Lamp]

Whats the fastest Hib toon to level in solo PVE ?

Gonna play on Pryd. No buffbot. No /level.

Can you tell me which race, which class, and what spec (Eg. Celt Animist Full Arb spec)

Ta

 

[judas]

celt vamp SM spec. 49sm 11ve 43pirce.
keep pirce quite high untill 32alteast and sm as high as u can.
instance lvl and its realy fast.

 

[Overdriven]

Vampiir then Animist.

 

[Lamp]

Any advice on what to place in the q/b for a vamp ?
Looking at 43 pierce, 38 SM and 32 VE.

 

[Windwalka1]

DD vamp feint eye shot diamondback end tap evade parry haste wskill (self buffs) fumble and stuff, all u need iirc, i just quickbound it all and used the qbar for RA's but then ur lvlin so dont have RA's...powertap too..speed on other qbar etc, its simple...just get a cata weapon with reduction to style dmg and ull rox it up

 

[Lamp]

Well I'm ditching the Vamp. Bored the ass off me. Bloody power drain only works 10 seconds after you finish combat, so that slows everything right down. Endurance drain is next to useless, I run out of end all the time. More down time, and the casting delays on the spells are painful. What a horrid class !

Hib sucks. I'm going back to levelling my Thane. At least that made sense.

 

[Nix]

Well I'm ditching the Vamp. Bored the ass off me. Bloody power drain only works 10 seconds after you finish combat, so that slows everything right down. Endurance drain is next to useless, I run out of end all the time. More down time, and the casting delays on the spells are painful. What a horrid class !

Hib sucks. I'm going back to levelling my Thane. At least that made sense.

You don't need to use the pow drain if you chain pull. Vamp needs decent gear when levelling too, you're bound to get damaged a lot, so keep your armor up to date and you'll do more than fine. Casting delays don't matter if you keep a certain rhytm on your casting: evade+parry => haste+WS => end drain => claw if you have enough power, rinse and repeat

 

[Lamp]

evade+parry => haste+WS => end drain => claw

Doesn't make any sense to me, sorry for being a complete n00b.
Evade and parry aren't spells, there's no guarantee you'll get either in any one combat round. WTF is haste+WS ?

 

[OohhoO]

Like Lamp I've never worked out why Vamps are considered overpowered in RvR. Mine only starts to get useful when it has enough power to start casting buffs, which takes about 5 seconds (assuming I'm close enough to hit something & don't whiff (99% whiff-rate 4TL)), which is theoretically about 3-4 seconds after I normally die in RvR.

 

[Lagas]

evade+parry => haste+WS => end drain => claw

Doesn't make any sense to me, sorry for being a complete n00b.
Evade and parry aren't spells, there's no guarantee you'll get either in any one combat round. WTF is haste+WS ?

as a vamp u got spells to enhance ur evade and parry chances, u got a haste buff, and u got a Weapon Skill buff

 

[Nix]

evade+parry => haste+WS => end drain => claw

Doesn't make any sense to me, sorry for being a complete n00b.
Evade and parry aren't spells, there's no guarantee you'll get either in any one combat round. WTF is haste+WS ?

Oops sorry, didn't know you weren't as much of a veteran in DAoC than you are in FH

If you're speccing the vamp in SM, you get several spells that you can cast while in combat. Parry buff, haste buff, HoT, end drain and snare. VE gives WS (weapon skill) buff, evade buff, stealth lore and fumble debuff.

When you're PvEing, you're most likely to have plenty of power at use, so you can use all your spells efficiently if you have a rhytm in casting the spells. The buff spells have 1 min duration, much like savage buffs iirc. Spells of same line have shared recast timer (15secs) so you can't just spam all spells at the same time, you must "cycle" them.

Here's an example:

1. You see a mob!
2. Pull it with powerdrain.
3. Cast parry buff from SM line
4. Cast evade buff from VE line => you have now you're defense up before the mob even gets to you.
5. Start hitting the mob
6. After 15 secs of phase (3), cast haste buff from SM line
7. After 15 secs of phase (4), cast WS buff from VE line
8. Cast endurance drain as you're bound to have lost some end while whacking the mob
9. Depending on situation, cast HoT or cast claw on the mob. If you're low on power, don't waste power on clawing or HoTting (unless needed), just continue hitting the mob to gain power.
10. 1st Mob is dead
11. If you're low on power, wait for 10 secs and powerdrain the 2nd Mob. IF you feel like you have enough power, just skip drain and start whacking it right after the 1st Mob is dead. Do end drains, HoTs or fumble debuffs if needed and you feel you're getting enough power.
12. After 50ish secs of phase (3), your parry buff will start to blink, it's going down soon.
13. Return to phase (3) and repeat.

 

[Gorbachioo]

Oops sorry, didn't know you weren't as much of a veteran in DAoC than you are in FH

If you're speccing the vamp in SM, you get several spells that you can cast while in combat. Parry buff, haste buff, HoT, end drain and snare. VE gives WS (weapon skill) buff, evade buff, stealth lore and fumble debuff.

When you're PvEing, you're most likely to have plenty of power at use, so you can use all your spells efficiently if you have a rhytm in casting the spells. The buff spells have 1 min duration, much like savage buffs iirc. Spells of same line have shared recast timer (15secs) so you can't just spam all spells at the same time, you must "cycle" them.

Here's an example:

1. You see a mob!
2. Pull it with powerdrain.
3. Cast parry buff from SM line
4. Cast evade buff from VE line => you have now you're defense up before the mob even gets to you.
5. Start hitting the mob
6. After 15 secs of phase (3), cast haste buff from SM line
7. After 15 secs of phase (4), cast WS buff from VE line
8. Cast endurance drain as you're bound to have lost some end while whacking the mob
9. Depending on situation, cast HoT or cast claw on the mob. If you're low on power, don't waste power on clawing or HoTting (unless needed), just continue hitting the mob to gain power.
10. 1st Mob is dead
11. If you're low on power, wait for 10 secs and powerdrain the 2nd Mob. IF you feel like you have enough power, just skip drain and start whacking it right after the 1st Mob is dead. Do end drains, HoTs or fumble debuffs if needed and you feel you're getting enough power.
12. After 50ish secs of phase (3), your parry buff will start to blink, it's going down soon.
13. Return to phase (3) and repeat.

Speccing both ve and sm while lvling isnt a very good idea. Just go pierce/sm untill you reach lvl50.

A vamp is by far the fastest class to lvl without a bb and solo.

 

[Theo]

32 pierce 47 sm 33 ve ftw

 

[Dwali]

a animist from lvl 10 right playd with shroom settings is also fast...just use low shrooms and res when under 55% mana then reshroom when full...u can keep a shroom camp up pretty good if u keep mana high...verd is best since self pet takes all aggro u target the main pet with

 

[Gear]

Like Lamp I've never worked out why Vamps are considered overpowered in RvR.

That reason would be me

 

[Lamp]

This is the 6th Vamp I've rolled and I still hate it. My Thane would pwn any Vamp. Guess it comes down to playing style. Can't beat a good old hammer in your hand and 30,000,000 volts of electricity at your command. Thanks to everyone for providing advice, but Hib toons suck.

 

[Bugz]

You can't operate a vamp Lamp?

It takes about 5 buttons on your qbar!

 

[Lamp]

Nah its not that I can't operate a Vamp, I don't like the way it handles management of endurance and power in combat. I found it very much against the grain of every other class I've played. Necros steal power, but they're a joy to level. Fucking vamps cast one power drain spell, then you're fucked until 10 seconds have elapsed. Stupid character class.

And it doesn't take 5 buttons on your qbar. First ya power drain it, then you use your mellee styles, then you gotta remember to use end drain, fumble buff, speed buff, claw, heat attacks. What a fucking mess ! All I wanna do is kill a mob quick. My Thane kills oranges in 4 hits, 6 at most (electicity DD's, followed by 2 or 3 mellee hits). Job done. No fucking about.

Sorry for offending any Vamp fans, but thats just how I feel.

 

[Ahtlehson]

I leveled my vamp to lvl 42 in about /played 2d ?h ?min

Thane aint that fast to SOLO exp.

 

[Theo]

Get one of the endurance reduction weapons they help loads and maybe group with a warden or shield tank

my Qbars are:
Claw VampSting DiamondBack HoT Haste Parry WSkill Evade EndDrain PowerLeechor
Charge RR5 Purge IP Snare StealthLore HoT rangedDD FumbleDebuff SpeedBuff
Qbar3 is just item /use and MLs

and don't use claw unless your getting loads of power incase you need to cast your buffs anytime soon again

my time to level 50 was 3 days 16 hour 42 min

 

[Heta]

a animist from lvl 10 right playd with shroom settings is also fast...just use low shrooms and res when under 55% mana then reshroom when full...u can keep a shroom camp up pretty good if u keep mana high...verd is best since self pet takes all aggro u target the main pet with

was much faster before to lvl a animist, specialy when you could play 2 chars and had a bard with fop (this was back when you got back power while in combat) you just put a weight on the shroom key then pulled with the bard and confused the mobs when they came close to the shrooms took me about 1 day total to get 50

 

[Lamp]

Yeah, animists might be fast, but I don't have the luxury of having a BB or Fopper as a 2nd / 3rd account. I'm playing solo PVE

 

[Gamah]

Vamps don't gt really effective till 25+

 

[Bugz]

Nah its not that I can't operate a Vamp, I don't like the way it handles management of endurance and power in combat. I found it very much against the grain of every other class I've played. Necros steal power, but they're a joy to level. Fucking vamps cast one power drain spell, then you're fucked until 10 seconds have elapsed. Stupid character class.

And it doesn't take 5 buttons on your qbar. First ya power drain it, then you use your mellee styles, then you gotta remember to use end drain, fumble buff, speed buff, claw, heat attacks. What a fucking mess ! All I wanna do is kill a mob quick. My Thane kills oranges in 4 hits, 6 at most (electicity DD's, followed by 2 or 3 mellee hits). Job done. No fucking about.

Sorry for offending any Vamp fans, but thats just how I feel.

You want full SM spec.

One style, parry buff, end drain, HoT, power drain.

Those five could realistically take you to 50.

 

[fettoken]

This is the 6th Vamp I've rolled and I still hate it. My Thane would pwn any Vamp. Guess it comes down to playing style. Can't beat a good old hammer in your hand and 30,000,000 volts of electricity at your command. Thanks to everyone for providing advice, but Hib toons suck.

I totally agree. Hib classes feels too dull somehow. Well, most classes feels dull if you don´t have 380+ dex moc3 and lifetaplifetaplifetap...

 

[Gorbachioo]

If that thane of yours truly is better in solo exping then you must have fucked something up with the vamp.

 

[Lamp]

If that thane of yours truly is better in solo exping then you must have fucked something up with the vamp.

Probably

 

[Punishment]

Simple fact is ... vamps are absolutely shite doing what they do best in pve (chaining mobs ) until u are in the high 20's

Also u Really need a 98%+ quality weapon on a vampiir as if u miss on a vamp u WILL die as u wont be able to put up parry buff/End drain(actually useful after level 20)/Hot ... Also ... may i point out ... in order to chain mobs u do not use claw in pve ... as u will end up with no mana/end and no self buffs up ... u just play vamp like u would a pally for example ... twisting end drain as needed with parry buff and hot and others if u cba ... will result in u having perma hp/end/mana ... on pvp when i was xping my vamp to 50 i used to get jumped by noobs with full mana while in a dungeon xping ... i just turned to em with all self buffs up and 75%-100% mana and handed them their ass ... Just a tip

My advice would be to roll Shar for the extra str/hp (also feemale shars look class in cata client) and spec sm to your level until level 38 with rest in pierce

Then after level 38 dump all points into pierce till level 45 or so to get 43 pierce and EyeShot ... like the best style ever ... does double damage of the move it chains off ...

Then when 43 pierce 38 sm ... put all your remaining points till u are 50 into ve ...

When u are 50 u have a yellow parrybuff yellow evade buff yellow fumble debuff yellow hot etc and probably the most oped melee char 1v1 on an equal rr setting possible

 

[crispy]

Dont roll shar.. in fact dont roll anything else than luris

 

[Maeloch]

VW is fast for unbuffed tank, lifetap and melee, swap between depending whether lop or low health. Then can pull 2-3 mobs and side chain pbaoe em. Prolly not so different from thane either.

Now we have all this campfire shit animist prolly not too bad without fop either. Tho I'd go full creeping for power cheap DD shrooms (verdant pet not gonna tank too much without buffs)