Farming/pling necro

[Wazkyr]

Hello there folks

Im gonna make a necro as topic states. Only for farming in df, lvling myself new chars and then maybe a bit scrolls in toa. Just wanted to know what:

Lvl 20: stats i should start with, race i should chose, and then a lvl 20 spec and a final 50 spec ?

 

[[SS]Gamblor]

ok Dex,con,INtell

Go with iconnu as they are the best choice really.

lvl20 = 20 into deathsight
lvl 50 , well my necro is 50 deathsight 20 deathservant.


hope that helps a bit =)

 

[Wazkyr]

Thx for that. But after talking to some ppl, im gonna go Inconnu with +15 int, +10 dex. 48 Deathsight 24 Death Servant and the rest in Painworking. Biggest problem is eq... Dosnt it decay extremly fast?

 

[[SS]Gamblor]

it does nowdays

just get staffs from cm's once u hit 30 -35
and then whenever we had df i'd buy seals and get the df staffs and use them

My necro has traldors oracle on him (lvl 10) so i only use that when i go rvr with him .. and thats' not very often as i'm playing on Pry for the next few weeks at least ;P :kissit:

 

[Kreig]

Biggest problem is eq... Dosnt it decay extremly fast?

Or just use well known bug, dont unequip the item(s) and u can still get the bonuses from it. Made my necro (lvl20 at teh time) a 50 sc set, its at 70% dur and still gives me all the bonuses, cba to repair it no point.

 

[Kreig]

But after talking to some ppl, im gonna go Inconnu with +15 int, +10 dex. 48 Deathsight 24 Death Servant and the rest in Painworking.

If its only for PLing imo go 50 DS as the extra 2 spell lvls increase ur dmg ( lower variance) each spell lvl is like 2% dmg so... Oh and it also decreases chance of mobs resisting spells, more/better utility with 48/24 but imo less effectiveness. You gain better pet focus spell, but ideally a necro's strongest position is from casting not melee.

 

[Kami]

If its only for PLing imo go 50 DS as the extra 2 spell lvls increase ur dmg ( lower variance) each spell lvl is like 2% dmg so... Oh and it also decreases chance of mobs resisting spells, more/better utility with 48/24 but imo less effectiveness. You gain better pet focus spell, but ideally a necro's strongest position is from casting not melee.

/agree
My Necromancer has been 50DS from day one, sometimes on pairs of reds I'll use the little damage shield (does help a little) that I get with servant but the life taps still sink in for a respectable amount of reliable damage.

 

[Wazkyr]

Kk thx, But just a little comment when u say 50 ds...not vary informative since both are "DS" (DeathSight/DeathServant) But think u mean deathsight

Just a thing more, Im lvl 21, 21 in deathsight. Cant figure out if the qc (lvl 3 pain) is 100% useless when killing mobs (apple trees atm) I can just cast 3-4 power drain spells, then its to close, then i cast insta lifetap (while pets hitting) untill the mob dies.
s this the normal spells to use and the normal way to kill as this lvl/spec?
And isnt there anybody more voulnable to my dmg? (Seedsman die so nice and fast compared to the appl trees)

 

[Influenza]

The lvl 3 Painworking spell isnt a quickcast its a spell which allows your pet to cast even if its being interrupted.
Sometimes its pretty crap , doesnt always work but its really nice for saving your life if you get alot of resists and are low on power.
It will take a while to get the timing of it right though but its extremly usefull when you get the hang of it.
Necro exp gets easier after 25/26 imo , cos there is a never ending supply of undead camps about.
Staffs dont really last 5 minutes though but if your on alb/excal ill make you a lvl 3/4 staff with 35 focus on if you want? should last a bit longer with it being grey con and ofc it will be free.

 

[Wazkyr]

As i got told by a ingame nerco the painworking qc is only for casting painworking spells. So useless with 0 points in painworking. But if its for evrything can u explain a bit about the timing? press it 0.5 sec before u cast ur spell? Then keep casting power drain until the 6 secs are op?

And for the staff. vary nice of u but im on Alb/pryd im sorry to say. But a nigh thoght (hugs)

 

[Influenza]

Nah its not only for painworking its for any spell , but its all about timing it with your pets melee swings.
Hard to say other than try it and youll soon get used to it

 

[Galoma]

to make the QC (aka FP) work... u need to let the pet make 1 melee attack with out u or the pet haveing ANY spells in the spell que...

about ½ sec after it makes the sving you press FP.... ½ sec later you press the spell u wanna cast (life tap / power tap)...

when the pet startes to cast the spell u order it to cast 1 more instantly... that way u can get 2 x spells on 1 FP... if u have uber buffs and have sood stats and high lvl u can get 3 spels off that way in 1 FP...

hope it helps...

Regards Doewen / Galoma :wub:

 

[Thegreatest]

As i got told by a ingame nerco the painworking qc is only for casting painworking spells. So useless with 0 points in painworking. But if its for evrything can u explain a bit about the timing? press it 0.5 sec before u cast ur spell? Then keep casting power drain until the 6 secs are op?

And for the staff. vary nice of u but im on Alb/pryd im sorry to say. But a nigh thoght (hugs)

I would talk to another necro for advice if I was you if he said that

Also +10 int +10 con +10 dex would be better than +15 int +10 dex as +con does also transfer to your pet right now (before patch 1.68 it didnt tho). So your pet would have a bit more hps with more con. Anyway, to let Facilitate Painworking work, you should make sure that you dont have any spells in the que. So if you have pressed the insta lifetap button 2-3x and if you pressed FP after that, your facilitate painworking wont work. You need to make sure not to have any spells in the que, let your pet melee 1 swing and just before your pet makes another melee swing press FP and cast lifetap or powertap...If you time this right and with high dex, you can get 3 free spells while FP is up. Altho I've heard that it's kinda hard right now to get 3 spells of, but 2 spells will always work if you time it right. It's very usefull and imo more isefull than quickast

 

[Wazkyr]

Thx guys

Thx for the help guys. I also found a post on VNboards about how to use fp. Was like 3 sides long guide. So think i can get it right now
I got 15 int - 10 dex, maybe not the best in somes opinion, but A. Dont wanna lvl 20-23 again B. PPL always have diffrent opinions about starting stats, so i just stay as this sounds fine

And the staff problem, i run with a 70% cons lvl 10 traldors on my sorc, the ONLY thing u lose by it is +skills. So i think im gonna get it for necro also and use it the same way. On my sorc, it would have been on something like
-150% cons if i had repared it evry time it gets to 70%

 

[Tasslehoff]

You just put your pet on passive, don't have any insta spells being casted at the time. And then you just fire the powerthingy as long as you can

 

[Thegreatest]

Not needed to put pet on passive . FP and passive mode dont always tend to work

 

[Pippic]

low con on staffs hurts focus. at least on regualar casters

 

[Wazkyr]

low con on staffs hurts focus. at least on regualar casters

Yeah i know that, but dosnt affect it vary much, didnt se any change at all in power suply on my sorc or my m8s cab since they got to 70%
So dont think its such are big problem

 

[[SS]Gamblor]

it will with a necro .. trust me

I have about 3 - 4 spare toa staffs i use when i know i'm gona be farming a bit.
I've got traldors oracle to lvl 10 and only use it Rvr. rest of the time i use a kwel staff with a 17% bonus to debuff , so if i AF debuff it's like hitting a lvl 1 mob with no armor ;P and if i con debuff it's great too =)

 

[Balbor]

my necro is currently 48 Sight, 23 Pain and 9 servant but want to change to 48 sight and rest servant (um 24/25 i think). I wanted the Str/con buff for a bit of extra protection but don't need it any more.

With a BB you can take pygmy goblins easy although it will be hard on your inventory. I guess you can do the same at Pitch Skelly/ghoul camp west of clifton, and mobs will be undead (more damage) and better exp, put with slower respawn rate.

PS anyone got a skill respec stone for 500 gold

 

[DrunkSkunk]

For lvl 50 go high Servant for the focus shield and get a FoP cleric with you and you can kill lots of high lvl toa mobs (battler, ML2.10 mob, ..)

 

[Mccload]

Just a little help guide i used for me Necro bud

Here is a full DAoC necromancer leveling guide!



1-3: Skeletons - Moldy, Puny, Rotting, standard (various locations)
2-3: Decayed Zombies (various locations)
2-4: Headless Dead (Isle of Glass)
3-5: Zombie Sow (Camelot Hills)
4-6: Large Skeletons (various locations)
5-6: Soggy Skeletons (Isle of Glass)
5-7: Undead Filidh (Camelot Hills, Salisbury Plains)
8-11: Undead Druid (Camelot Hills, Salisbury Plains)
7-15: Tomb of Mithra - all monsters except Mithra priests
8-11: Ghosts (Isle of Glass)
8-11: Boulderings (Camelot Hills)
10-12: Large Boulderings (North Black Mountains)
11-14: Grindylows (Isle of Glass)
12-14: Wind Mephit (Salisbury Plains)
13-15: Mud Golems (Avalon Marsh)
13-16: Sodden Warriors, Drowned, Bugganes (Isle of Glass)
14-16: Gwr-drwgiaids (Llyn Barfog)
15-17: Quicksand (Avalon Marsh)
16-18: Small Skeletal Centurion (Cornwall)
16-18: Ghoul Footmen (Avalon Marsh)
17-19: Skeletal Legionaires (Cornwall)
18-22: Ghoul Knights, Ghoul Lords (Avalon Marsh, often in groups)
19-22: Faint Grim (Snowdonia)
20-23: Cythrauls (Llyn Barfog)
21-23: Undead Seedsman (Isle of Glass Border, Seedsman plant the Haunted Appletrees)
24-28: Wicked Cythrauls (Llyn Barfog)
24-29: Grey Ghosts (Isle of Glass border)
25-29: Giant Skeletons (Salisbury Plains)
26-30: Bwgwl (Llyn Barfog)
27-28: Legionaires (Cornwall)
27-31: Undead Monks (Llyn Barfog)
28-35: Catacombs of Cordova (most monsters)
29-34: Undead Apple Gatherers (Near Wearyall)
29-42: Soultorns (various types, Darkness Falls)
30-36: Dunters (Lyonesse)
32-38: Undead Marshmen and Grangers (Near Wearyall)
35-40: Danoian Clerks (Lyonesse)
35-40: Granite Giants (Dartmoor)
38-41: Undead (North and East of Caddug Keep)
38-41: Tomb Keepers (Barrows)
38-42: Danoian Fisherman (Lyonesse)
39-41: Bean Sidhe (Lyonesse, night spawn)
40-42: Echo room (Barrows)
40-45: Darkfires (Barrows)
40-45: Danoian Farmers (Lyonesse)
41-45: Mountain Lights (behind Caer Diogel)
42-43: Druid Skeletons (Barrows)
42-45: Danaoin Sailors (Lyonesse)
43+: Headless footmen, grasping ghouls, defiled skeletons, ebon skeletons, phantom magi (Caldey)
44-48: Spectral Essences, Spiritual Advisors, Vigilant Souls (Barrows)
45-48: Pikemen (Lyonesse)
45+: Ecto Minions (Dales of Devwy)
45+: Pitch Skeletons (Camp above Cliffton)
46+: Wight Ramp, Celts or Skeletal Druids (Barrows)
47+: Undead Pikemen, Priests of Arawn (Lyonnesse)
48+: Danaoin Soldiers (Lyonesse)
48+: Ghoul Desicrators (Gwyddneau)
48+: Grannies (Emain Macha)
48+: Shark-Bitten Corpses (near Caer Sidi)
49+: White Lights (Caldey)
49+: Cyhraeths (Frontier, near Caer Berkstead)
50: Ancient Zombies, Dread Liches, Blood Liches, Lich Lords (often requires a group)