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old.Nol

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OMFG no, Hibs in emain, whatever next?

At least you got the right people in the screenshot.

PS: I think are screenies of every player on this server running in a zerg. FYI, as a person who organises zergs, Garba and his group have a tendency to try steer clear of them, which is the reason I found it funny, it definatly wasn't as funny as Carlos posting a picture of Garba's zerg without Garba in it though :D
 
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old.Nol

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Originally posted by Carlos Bananos
i know that, but its the DH group, With Garba and Domain as pbae etc, Olas pet as support, that is the group that all mids have trouble beating.

And the group that we've been talking about in this thread :)
Then say Dem hibbies
 
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Rollie

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Originally posted by old.Nol
OMFG no, Hibs in emain, whatever next?

At least you got the right people in the screenshot.

PS: I think are screenies of every player on this server running in a zerg. FYI, as a person who organises zergs, Garba and his group have a tendency to try steer clear of them, which is the reason I found it funny, it definatly wasn't as funny as Carlos posting a picture of Garba's zerg without Garba in it though :D

just backing up my statement that garb does/did indeed run in zergs at times.

i sence strong postfarming in this thread :( and i know belomar is one of the culprits :(
 
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Garbannoch Nox

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Originally posted by Rollie
just backing up my statement that garb does/did indeed run in zergs at ties.

i sence strong postfarming in this thread :( and i know belomar is one of the culprits :(

ok i admit it - have zerged my way all to rr11 ;(
 
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ab_fluid

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Originally posted by Carlos Bananos
I knew for a fact that zerkers where overpowered, i know savages are overpowered, but you think everyone else doesnt already? its fucking obvious.

my point is, ASD has been here forever, yet the whines only started recently, perhaps coincidence that the last real overpowered mid class was getting nerfed...ppl need an excuse to lose post patch.

Also, its only hibs + albs whining about ASD on healers, yet Chanters have the exact same spell

And people really need to play healer before they say so much...you either chose 1 or the other....Good CC, or Good healing, the 44/30 temp balances both, but its as 'uber' as a mincer is a 'good all round tank'.

for the most part, a healer is simply a bard+druid in 1 class, but due to speccing, you need more than 1 to match thier CC and healing output.

3 healers= 1bard + 2 druids. Without Pets. Without End chant. (but omg they have insta speed break instead of insta root.)


Stun sux, any mincer or chanter will tell you that.

On the ASD thing, its really not hard to work out the difference, in a grp with enchanters, they are the soul way of doing damage in the group, if you damage dealers can't do damage then you cannot win a fight no 2 ways about it. using asd on ahealer stops them from casting, it doesn't stop them using insta heals, insta mezz/stun etc, and it also doesn't stop the damage dealers in your group working. Say for example if the asd on chanters interupted mid meelers and totally stopped them hitting anything for 5 seconds, with it being chain cast on the melee char they cannot hit anything...ever, therefore you cannot kill anything and you will more than likely lose. Thats imo the main difference between them, and also the fact no semi decent hib grp has 3 chanters in it, most mage groups have 1 for the optimal mage grp. Hope that helps you to understand the difference.
 
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Carlos Bananos

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Originally posted by ab_fluid
On the ASD thing, its really not hard to work out the difference, in a grp with enchanters, they are the soul way of doing damage in the group, if you damage dealers can't do damage then you cannot win a fight no 2 ways about it. using asd on ahealer stops them from casting, it doesn't stop them using insta heals, insta mezz/stun etc, and it also doesn't stop the damage dealers in your group working. Say for example if the asd on chanters interupted mid meelers and totally stopped them hitting anything for 5 seconds, with it being chain cast on the melee char they cannot hit anything...ever, therefore you cannot kill anything and you will more than likely lose. Thats imo the main difference between them, and also the fact no semi decent hib grp has 3 chanters in it, most mage groups have 1 for the optimal mage grp. Hope that helps you to understand the difference.

and ASDing a chanter stops a druid using instaheal?

also, if the healers use insta CC, you should be thanking them for the free immunity :)

the asd on healers is the same asd on chanters, who its used on is at thier disgression.

personally, i dont use it on casters much, i use it on druids trying to heal, just like chanters use it on me trying to heal :p
 
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Guilt

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Ok honestly now,what has been proven after all those replies and counter replies (some of them pretty well put and based on facts).Who is right?I mean it has been pretty entertaining reading this thread but to what end?Have u even tried to see things from the receiving end's perspective?i mean which one of has actually played competitively for another realm apart the one,you lot so fiercfully defend?Trust me things will look alot different after u've tried that.But then again i am just a speed bot :) what do i know?
Everyone is more skilled and his realm mates are better even tho they are inferior when it comes to RAs,Classes etc right?
Sad imo :/
Just my 2cents

P.S No more Zeeke MA plz :p
 
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ab_fluid

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Originally posted by Carlos Bananos
Garbas group rapes some savage group.
Xanths group loses to the same savage group!
Someone sucks, and i dont think its the savages ;)

did you know that in garbs group theres usually 4 rr10/11's 2 rr9's as the base, they are probably the best played group in the game in its current state and have more experience than most people in the game, that doesn't mean xanth sucks does it?
 
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ab_fluid

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Originally posted by Carlos Bananos
and ASDing a chanter stops a druid using instaheal?

also, if the healers use insta CC, you should be thanking them for the free immunity :)

the asd on healers is the same asd on chanters, who its used on is at thier disgression.

personally, i dont use it on casters much, i use it on druids trying to heal, just like chanters use it on me trying to heal :p

read again what i wrote, either you just choose not to take it in or just can't take theres a difference, you could stand and heal a char all day if you wanted, if no damage is being done you will not win, if a mage is being asd spammed they cannot do damage, if a healer is being asd'd they just can't heal the damage (thats not even being taken if they use asd properly), it really has absoloutly nothing to do with how you use asd on a druid, tbh i wish every healer used it on a druid instead of a mage, we'd win a damn sight more fights if they did.
 
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ab_fluid

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Originally posted by Guilt
Ok honestly now,what has been proven after all those replies and counter replies (some of them pretty well put and based on facts).Who is right?I mean it has been pretty entertaining reading this thread but to what end?Have u even tried to see things from the receiving end's perspective?i mean which one of has actually played competitively for another realm apart the one,you lot so fiercfully defend?Trust me things will look alot different after u've tried that.But then again i am just a speed bot :) what do i know?
Everyone is more skilled and his realm mates are better even tho they are inferior when it comes to RAs,Classes etc right?
Sad imo :/
Just my 2cents

P.S No more Zeeke MA plz :p

not totally true, a lot of mids acknowledge they have a big advantage atm, it the ones that think they wtfpwn because they are uber and chanters r teh 1337 and they wtfpwn them with there brand new fotm savage that need help.
 
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Carlos Bananos

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Originally posted by ab_fluid
not totally true, a lot of mids acknowledge they have a big advantage atm, it the ones that think they wtfpwn because they are uber and chanters r teh 1337 and they wtfpwn them with there brand new fotm savage that need help.

savages aint 'that' overpowered ;)
 
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K0nah

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guess we'll find out how good atrocity is in 1.65 won't we... :sleeping:
 
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Carlos Bananos

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Originally posted by K0nah
guess we'll find out how good atrocity is in 1.65 won't we... :sleeping:

Yes. As well as the groups who claim they only lose due to savages.


Fatalys got a /stick macro yet?
 
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Tyka

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Well we're still around Carlos and have been for over a year now ;)
 
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ab_fluid

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Originally posted by Carlos Bananos
Yes. As well as the groups who claim they only lose due to savages.


Fatalys got a /stick macro yet?

theres still more savage nerfs incoming i hear, don't think they will be quite balanced after 1.65 ;)
 
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Carlos Bananos

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1.65 they have roughly same dmg output as other light tanks when using self buffs

dont think theres gonna be more nerfs tbh, Mackey said he wanted to nerf em more an was pissed that he couldnt due to balance etc...but they certianly wont get any love :p


but now they can concetrate on nerfing hib some :)
 
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Weeping Willow

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Originally posted by ab_fluid
If you look who started the thread/whine it was your GM, this thread would not have existed and been better for all if he/she/it had kept their mouth closed. However as long as i see a thread on these forums flaming my guild or members of it i will be there backing them up, maybe you should speak tou your guild before they make any more threads like this and make themselves look even more stupid than they currently do.

About the fotm chanter groups, tbh, the best casters in vgn have always been the elds, tyka, memeerf etc etc, the "fotm" chanter grps consisted of 3/4 enchanters - land mezz - run in and insta kill with pbaoe, however the typical vgn setup consisted on 1 enchanter debuffing cold for the light elds and killing from range... But i guess maybe you weren't around back then to know such things and instead just jump on the bandwagon and talk about that which you know very little?

Yeah as of I know I know that I shouldn't have posted here on this board with the knowledge of people like you and Xanthian replying since its hopeless to have a discussion with you. To the best of my knowledge it was Xanthian that was flaming my guild not me flaming VGN. But when I wake up today and try to say hello in your guild channel, Hibernias best guild I get crap like this:

<07:51pm> <aginamist> HI @ YOU
<07:51pm> <Xanthian> lol
<07:51pm> <Fluid> i wannabe fotm
<07:51pm> <Tzeentch> cu
<07:51pm> <aginamist> why did you ban me :>
<07:51pm> <Xanthian> cos your a wanker
<07:51pm> <Xanthian> fuck off
<07:51pm> Underlig [~Roovete@as13-5-1.has.s.bonet.se] has joined #VGN
<07:51pm> mode/#VGN [+b *!*@aginamist.users.quakenet.org] by Xanthian
>>> You have been kicked off #VGN by Xanthian (Banned (*!*@aginamist.users.quakenet.org))
-:- [#VGN] Banned from channel

Pretty much shows that it isn't even worth the effort to talk to Xanthian.
 
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old.Xanthian

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whine whine FUCKING whine..

topic reported to mods, go whine elsewhere.
 
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Tyka

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<07:51pm> mode/#VGN [+b *!*@aginamist.users.quakenet.org] by Xanthian
>>> You have been kicked off #VGN by Xanthian (Banned (*!*@aginamist.users.quakenet.org))
-:- [#VGN] Banned from channel

Pretty much shows that it isn't even worth the effort to talk to Xanthian.

Maybe also tell the people on these forums what you said to us yesterday m8? Thats not nice to show one side of the story.

Anyways if you really want to "talk" I'll make sure you're unbanned tonight when i get home from work.
 
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Weeping Willow

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So you go cry to moderators when people show your "real side" Xanthian?

You are even more pathetic than I could imagine, I think that you could make a good officer side by side with ab_fluid, you seem to share the same amount of intelligence.
 
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old.Xanthian

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The point is, I whined in my guild irc channel, you shouldnt bring it here.
Go play bum's and willy with your rl guild mates, im not interested in reading your drivel any longer.
 
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Weeping Willow

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Originally posted by Tyka
Maybe also tell the people on these forums what you said to us yesterday m8? Thats not nice to show one side of the story.

Anyways if you really want to "talk" I'll make sure you're unbanned tonight when i get home from work.

I tried to talk to Xanthian for a while, he seemed pretty reasonable for a while, then he went back to his uber-flaming-skills on BW and tbh I cba to talk to any VGN guys after you proclaimed that all in Atrocity are noobs and you are skilled because you played your class for 6 months+ and we will have no chance in 1.65.


To the ones in VGN that might have some brains:
The reason that I despise you and think you all are the same is because of Xanthian and ab_fluid.
 
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Weeping Willow

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Originally posted by old.Xanthian
The point is, I whined in my guild irc channel, you shouldnt bring it here.
Go play bum's and willy with your rl guild mates, im not interested in reading your drivel any longer.

So the fact that you whine and call everyone in my guild shit in your IRC channel shouldn't be considered the same as if you sent it as a PM to me?
 
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Tyka

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Originally posted by Weeping Willow
I tried to talk to Xanthian for a while, he seemed pretty reasonable for a while, then he went back to his uber-flaming-skills on BW and tbh I cba to talk to any VGN guys after you proclaimed that all in Atrocity are noobs and you are skilled because you played your class for 6 months+ and we will have no chance in 1.65.


ROFL DUDE, at least make sure you read through the whole thread you made yourself before making moronic replies like this one.

Sheeesh.
 
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Tyka

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I made a pretty long post some pages ago, i suggest you read it before making any other replies.
 
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old.Xanthian

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You think nobody comes in #VGN and whines about us ?

You think we should post on here everytime someone comes in #VGN and calls us noobs/tells us we suck etc.. ?

If you want to be lame and flame me/us then go ahead but its not gonna win you any prizes.


So seriously who is the imature one ? I think you should have a long think about it.
 
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