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belth

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Originally posted by Garnet
lol you will still be hit for insane damage

k, that's it. Midgard will lose all weaponspecs in 1.64.
 
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-Wedge-

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Anyways, this isnt a skald problem, its not a midgard tank problem (although with trolls, their able to get low quickness very easely)... Its an overall design flaw in Dark Age of Tankalot...

The swing speed isnt really a problem because the target will be dead in 1 swing by 3 tanks...

Anyways, my guess would be that everyone with low quickness will get nerfed some way :p Its a complicated issue though, as it changes a few things on how melee works... But it'll be a good fix...

Otherwise, give my wizard a spell that does 1000 damage (after resists) on a 6s recast timer... Note a 6s recast timer, the spell itself ofc, has to be instant (as this is the case with the initial blow from melee)...

Lets see how 'melee' would like that.... :rolleyes:
 
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Garnet

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Originally posted by belth
k, that's it. Midgard will lose all weaponspecs in 1.64.

then we all role healers and still pwn you with healer zergs xD
 
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Belomar

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Originally posted by Arnor
the penatly is that he wont hit any faster then the delay on his wpn.
Why is this a penalty? Only against pbt if he is solo, assist sorts it out otherwise and being a skald is all about frontloading... Now, if the silly interrupt code would not be the way it is (remember Sanya's "tick tick tick" explanation?), it'd be all right, since a caster would then be able to time his casts in between the swings. But this is not the way Uncle Mythic runs their railroad, is it?
ps retard: he doesnt hit at 2sec delay, more like 5.7 (which is almost 3 times as much)
I bet that with the best celerity he nearly hits the 1.5 sec cap. :p
 
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infozwerg

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Originally posted by llixeraxu
Does he only have 2 styles?

ragnarok (pos back), northern lights (pos side), polar rift (anytime).

3.

id still like to see some screens of aurora. :)
 
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Arnor

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Originally posted by Belomar
Why is this a penalty? Only against pbt if he is solo, assist sorts it out otherwise and being a skald is all about frontloading... Now, if the silly interrupt code would not be the way it is (remember Sanya's "tick tick tick" explanation?), it'd be all right, since a caster would then be able to time his casts in between the swings. But this is not the way Uncle Mythic runs their railroad, is it?I bet that with the best celerity he nearly hits the 1.5 sec cap. :p

yes delay isnt that much a prob when your assisting, so take out the maintank first then :p

and i HONESTLY sincerely doubt he will be even half close to 1.5speed with best celerity +haste

pure celerity is 22% haste, best haste buff is 20% haste.

dunno how they stack, but really, he isnt hitting at 1.5sec, and even if he did he'd frontload ALOT less.
 
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Jayce_DA

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A question - was he 'punished' by GOA for taking advantage of a bug and killing people in mainland Hib ? (I'm assuming it was a bug that got him there ?)
 
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Forau

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Originally posted by Arnor

pure celerity is 22% haste, best haste buff is 20% haste.

Pure celerity is closer to 40%, 37 I think to be exact. at leat my amplified celerity L3x augspec is 31%.

Also quickness does have a penalty, altho not very large one. Because basedamage remains unchanged nomatter what your swingtime is, and only styledamage remains the same over time no matter hastelvl(i.e, gets higher/blow when you lower quickness), you will be doing less damage over time without haste and quickness. But when assisting frontloading is more efficient that's true. Also this will not be nerfed in 1.62, so keep crying. Maybe we can nerf bard melee next!
 
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Forau

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Originally posted by Jayce_DA
A question - was he 'punished' by GOA for taking advantage of a bug and killing people in mainland Hib ? (I'm assuming it was a bug that got him there ?)

Not going to go into this discusison again but as he appealed himself and technically did not use a bug(hole in zonewall or the like) to get in, and explained to GOA what the nature of the mishap that allows you to get in and enabled them to fix it, no actions were taken against him or his account.
 
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Sharma

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I hear about hits like that over irc, then i take a loow at that pic and my jaw drops :eek7:
 
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old.Cruel Heart

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Originally posted by Arnor



still, cap @ 1025=nerfplzkthx ^^

1075 in the SS, and thats with debuffed swing speed by a healer.
 
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Mardukk

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And wtf said 2hnded in Midgard needed a boost.....
 
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saltymcpepper

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post on vnwhine boards to make them shut up about skalds imo
 
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Arnor

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Originally posted by Forau
Pure celerity is closer to 40%, 37 I think to be exact. at leat my amplified celerity L3x augspec is 31%.

Also quickness does have a penalty, altho not very large one. Because basedamage remains unchanged nomatter what your swingtime is, and only styledamage remains the same over time no matter hastelvl(i.e, gets higher/blow when you lower quickness), you will be doing less damage over time without haste and quickness. But when assisting frontloading is more efficient that's true. Also this will not be nerfed in 1.62, so keep crying. Maybe we can nerf bard melee next!

yeah, I was kinda under that impression too, since celerity seem to be hasting much more then conc-haste. (which it should)

mythic said they will look into the haste/quickness thing, but that its very low priority atm. We can only hope since the current system is fucked up. (no, dont buff me with those, I want to hit harder (and tbh frontloading is what its all about in rvr ))
 
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Arnor

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Originally posted by saltymcpepper
post on vnwhine boards to make them shut up about skalds imo

done, but the problem with skalds isnt that they do too little dmg, its their laughable defense. (and lots of other "utilities" that have indirectly been nerfed so much they are more or less worthless)
 
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uberstein

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How did he get in to mainland Hib? I know this has been fixed now but just out of pure curiosity.
 
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Kindar

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Read the post Uber....he is just pasted from an edit program inot a hib picture. See the gloves? On the picture he got blue gloves, but in inventory they are red.
 
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vesta

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Originally posted by -Wedge-
Anyways, this isnt a skald problem, its not a midgard tank problem (although with trolls, their able to get low quickness very easely)... Its an overall design flaw in Dark Age of Tankalot...

The swing speed isnt really a problem because the target will be dead in 1 swing by 3 tanks...

Anyways, my guess would be that everyone with low quickness will get nerfed some way :p Its a complicated issue though, as it changes a few things on how melee works... But it'll be a good fix...

Otherwise, give my wizard a spell that does 1000 damage (after resists) on a 6s recast timer... Note a 6s recast timer, the spell itself ofc, has to be instant (as this is the case with the initial blow from melee)...

Lets see how 'melee' would like that.... :rolleyes:

hmm so 3 tanks can kill a target in 1 swing? true... what about chanters then? 3 chanters can kill a FG with 1 spell each?? :)
 
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Arnor

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Originally posted by Kindar
Read the post Uber....he is just pasted from an edit program inot a hib picture. See the gloves? On the picture he got blue gloves, but in inventory they are red.


right, ok then :rolleyes:



grats on mad photoshopskills tiv :p
 
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cougar-

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Originally posted by saltymcpepper
post on vnwhine boards to make them shut up about skalds imo

tryed, didnt work at all, got comments like "ok i need to be rr9 and have all uberdrops to make decent dmg? kthxbye."
 
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uberstein

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Originally posted by vesta
hmm so 3 tanks can kill a target in 1 swing? true... what about chanters then? 3 chanters can kill a FG with 1 spell each?? :)

2 bards 5 chanters and a shield hero. 2 healers, a skald a warrior and 4 sm. Never played alb to know if mincer/ice wizzie combo would do the same job. Are there any groups that can beat the above combo without needing to be much better players? I'm fairly new to rvr anyway but when I have seen even 2 pbae casters go nuts on a mezzed and slammed/stunned grp its all over kind of quick.
 
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Tivook

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Originally posted by Kindar
Read the post Uber....he is just pasted from an edit program inot a hib picture. See the gloves? On the picture he got blue gloves, but in inventory they are red.

Or! maybe I just pasted the inventory picture from when I was carrying the alb relic into the picture where I was running around in hib?
Yep that must be it :D


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