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CuriousGeorge

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I was just wondering (as were a few others) what happened to the uber scout leggings that dropped. And mysteriously vanished for the lotto at the end?. Hope you can help out being the raid leader and all. And, if like you say,they were not handed to you,does anyone on the ML6 have screenies of who picked them up?.Or,the person who did pick them up,would you like to come and say if you did or didn't pass them over ?.
 

Fetid

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i too want too know what happend too them realy was only drop worth going for in my POV being a scout on the riad i went nuts in /g when i saw they droped and WAS picked up. shame i didnt screanie thou allthou ive gotton onto rightnow and is asking about logs it happend betwen 8-10pm and was on the 6.9 encounter.
 

Golena

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Anyone remember the ml4 raid he did a week or 2 ago where a few rare scrolls went missing?

coincidence?
 

Dafft

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Yes, Im interested as to what happened to those leggings, I hate the fact that I now have this "Black Cloud" over my head due to missing drops on the second raid but I have lotto'd every drop I had in my inventory from the raids. I hate the fact people arent honest sometimes in this game.

It now seems that there are ppl out there who suspect me of stealing/cheating my fellow realm mates which, I assure you, is the last thing I would ever do.

Im gonna rightnow GoA for the logs too
 

UKM_Thorgrim

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to all in QUESTION

Sorry i was not on the Raid ..


But knowing DAFFT for well over 2 years as a Friend .. & aMember of UK MERCS.. He won't have kept the Leggings for him self unless stating at the start of the Raid. any one accusinging him of this can pm me on any of the below toons. for a chat .. ..

The Following is somthing UK MERCS has been Built on and is very Proud of




If you dont like it i have my very own saying FUCK OFF
 

Dafft

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New Update:

Ive sent a rightnow to GoA requesting GoA logs. I hope to get this matter sorted out, once I receive them I will post them
 

Heath

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UKM_Thorgrim said:
Sorry i was not on the Raid ..


But knowing DAFFT for well over 2 years as a Friend .. & aMember of UK MERCS.. He won't have kept the Leggings for him self unless stating at the start of the Raid. any one accusinging him of this can pm me on any of the below toons. for a chat .. ..

The Following is somthing UK MERCS has been Built on and is very Proud of




If you dont like it i have my very own saying FUCK OFF

I wasn't on the raid..so can't comment on the leggings....BUT, just to totally dismiss the thought of it from peoples minds by saying "he wouldn't do that...i know him" is daft. People will trust what they see and know. If they don't know him well..they will suspect. Until such proof is brought forward to help him. And, to have you saying that they can PM you for a chat..sounds like heavy handed persuading to stop it.. ie,,bullying. And...your very own comment just enforces bad views. So, by saying..if you dont like it..fuck it. Means that you don't care of peoples opinions.

As always..there are 2 sides to every story. And, hopefully the logs can either prove, or disprove what happened.
 

Ransid

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Its nice to see that peeps in this alb server are ready and able to point the finger yet again and say people are cheating or keeping drops!!!
I am in UKMercs and i find what has been said or implied a load of shite.
Nobody in this guild cheats(nobody).

Anyone who knows daft will tell you what he is like, he is a good guy and he holds true to UKM so i know that he did not hold back the drop or somehow loose it.
I would suggest that out of all the peeps on that raid sombody must have a log of the drops and stuff, if they have pls get in contact with daft or anyone in UKM so we can sort out this small problem.

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kelless

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So of the 120 ppl on raid 3 ppl have thanked him and 3 of accused him of ripping them off , have you ever been on an ml raid where somebody hasn't complained that they saw something drop and they never got it ? The majority of ppl wouldn't want to run one because of crap like this .
 

Adari

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Dafft is a friendly & good person, he would never take a drop from a raid like that.
 

CuriousGeorge

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Golena said:
Anyone remember the ml4 raid he did a week or 2 ago where a few rare scrolls went missing?

coincidence?

Contrdicts some of the stuff above though. But, as somebody put. Always two sides to every story.

Lets wait for logs from GoA, From Dafft AND somebody else just to compere them. Not saying they will be doctored or anything. But, it is a possibility.
 

Chilly

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kelless said:
So of the 120 ppl on raid 3 ppl have thanked him and 3 of accused him of ripping them off , have you ever been on an ml raid where somebody hasn't complained that they saw something drop and they never got it ? The majority of ppl wouldn't want to run one because of crap like this .
yeah, all the raids i run are perfect, mainly cos i pwn. And no, dafft prolly wouldnt steal drops but it IS lax of him not to set the bg properly to catch all drops - altho it wouldnt surprise me to see bg loot plain not work cos mythic suck donkety duts
 

Lireihuan

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i think dafft is a good person overall.
i don't think ppl will suspect him if it's not a scout drop/rare good stats drop.
Accusing raid leader steal stuff is nonsense most of time. If dafft need this item, he can just claim it after raid. And i am very sure ppl will argue on forum if he did claim it anyway, i believe it's a common sense taht claim item as raid leader is much much better than steal/hide drop. so end of story.
 

arawem

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Reading this post i only have one question, why dont u sort a bg loot treasurer????????? cant understand all this problems with the tools u can use in raids to make sure who gets the drops....
 

Jimmyjr

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arawem said:
Reading this post i only have one question, why dont u sort a bg loot treasurer????????? cant understand all this problems with the tools u can use in raids to make sure who gets the drops....

he did, when we finished ml6.9 i beleive his bots inv was full and people picked loot before he got to change the loot treasurer to himself, he got the mace, just the leggins went missing somewhere, prolly to someone in the grp who did the most damage o0
 

Quickfeet

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If the invent of the collecter becomes full in the middle of an encouter and then loot is split randomly between the raid it is hardly th raid leaders fault if the ppl picking it up choose to hide/not give it in. Coming on to FH and accusing the leader of stealing it is hardly the best way to show your thanks for getting the ml completed. Personally if i wasted 5 hours of my time running a ml only to be accused of trying to steal/rip ppl off those people certinally wouldnt be welcome on my following raid but hey thats just me, i do mls to get ppl credit not to be accused of stealing. Tarnishing a person/guilds reputation of 1 drop because the loot collector was full makes me feel like is not worth running mls anymore. If people dont trust the raid leaders maybe they should run the raid themsleves?
 

Dafft

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arawem said:
Reading this post i only have one question, why dont u sort a bg loot treasurer????????? cant understand all this problems with the tools u can use in raids to make sure who gets the drops....


The BG treasurer was my bot, Rugger, up until 6.9 by which time he was full of loot, mainly 5million billion off-handers, I had realised this too late & set myself as the treasurer by which time I suppose the loot would go randomly to a grp or someone, but when the logs come in, I shall take great pride to name & shame the **** who took em if the logs shows who picked em up!
 

vintervargen

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if you had full inventory, whoever got them is 'entitled' to them as autosplit went off.

you will prolly not get to view any logs from goa.
 

Rhirap

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i can vouch for dafft too, he isnt like that, and i would suggest that you get the logs and review them between yourselves before bringing it to FH...so many people read this crap that someone is bound to find a loophole no matter what the facts are...
 

Mathiyn

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I too can vouch for Dafft, i found him honest.

Hell I won a key at the 4.2 (if its the same raid we on about) and I was GL of one group. I didnt get the key, but with 100 ppl spamming al sorts of crap, its not difficult to loose track of things.

Dafft ran a fantastic , well organised adn constructed ML4 raid, which we all know is a bitch.
 

Marc

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Vodkafairy said:
arr dafft been stealing again? :m00:

:wub:

youd know all about deceit wouldnt you. No one more qualified in this game to comment on the topic tbh
 

Sock Drawer

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Right then couple of things...

Firstly I'm also in UKM, but was GM of Chaos Theory, so I know all about being an underhand dirty filthy rotten c**t lol. I also know that Dafft would also never just steal summink like the u3er leggings - he's just too damn..... STUPID! lol (Only kidding J )

Nah honestly though, he doesn't do stuff like that and he organised the raid purely for the ML, drops are always a bonus. Although slightly odd, and a bit strange he's actually a VERY decent chap, and seems to go out of his way to help people.

Getting logs from GOA would be a trifle harder than trying to amalgamate all the spotted white dog shit across the globe to build the largest underground temple of holier than thou 'poop from a pooch', used purely for worshipping the man fat of a chickens lip at the same time stepping in a pile of rocking horse shit and proclaiming "I am the onion man, peel me and fear thou tears!"

Aint gonna happen really - especially when you say "happened between 8 and 10" - like you're gonna be the ONLY people on the server at that time :D

And now, the news.... :flame:

Chilly, you smell stop trolling, get more proper booze inside you, and come do some procs for me - cheap as chips like :)

Vodkafairy - stop being bitter coz you still keep getting your (rather fine) arse handed to you on a plate at AMG by us boys - you really are a dummy spitter.

Anyway - nuff said. Can't believe there aint no one out of 130 people that doesn't have screenies / had their logger running. Maybe they did but don't read FH? Perhaps people in game could pesters others who were on the raid and ask em?
 

Tay

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vintervargen said:
if you had full inventory, whoever got them is 'entitled' to them as autosplit went off.

you will prolly not get to view any logs from goa.
Disagree about "entitled" but agree about GOA, this is a community thing.

If there is no evidence of the drop then either it decayed or somebody got a nice drop, I presume it was a nice drop?.
 

Smilewhenyousaythat

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UKM are as honest as the day is long - known a few of them since this game was launched.

Yes they swear like ****, and will take any opportunity to take the proverbial but they're a sound bunch.

If dafft says he didn't do it, he didn't do it.
 

macddon

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seems strange to me that those who protested loudest on raid, and said "I have screenie confirming they were dropped" have not posted them on here. I thought Dafft ran ML really well, even returning to 2 steps coz people had ld. If you dont like the someone runs a raid run your own!!
 

Chilly

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pah, i got logs from goa for my CM cos i couldnt remember how much of the plat on it was mien and how much as corens, theyl give you logs for anything as long as there is a legit reason, what they WONT do if force whomever "stole" he drop to hand it back as it is, quite rightly, a community issue
 

Sarcon

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kelless said:
So of the 120 ppl on raid 3 ppl have thanked him and 3 of accused him of ripping them off.
Heh, have run a raid self, and co-lead 2, and damn you are surpriced when you see 100 on raid. And the second there is probs they all start raining insult on ya. But the second ya did whole raid, finished everything nicely, and did a gj, you can hear the faint whisper of about 10-15 thx'ing for a good raid x_x damn its hard to be an organiser, ya all who haven't tried it yet, should sometime :p

anyways, don't know Dafft to well, but got the general oppinion from a few raids i've seen him on, thats he's a fair n nice guy. And got alot more ball to make a raid instead of just attending x_x
Hope to see some more raids from ya :clap:
 

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