Exploit Bug

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Deskiziado

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Midis at Beedmer Faste tonight were exploiting a bug. Repair outer doors from inside the keep is a bug, and you are cheaters.

Those are you skills: CHEATERS

You don't have enought with AOE stun and GTAoE in same line than bolts and nukes, you need cheats. Thanks for killing game
 
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Lessurl

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/em points Deskiziado in direction of right now
 
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Spudgie

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They've always done this, it will happen everytime you try and take bled with middie defenders.
 
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Deskiziado

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I reported it to Mythic, but think they won't fix it till Albion start to exploit that bug too.
 
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Karl [DAOC]

Guest
GTAoE in same line than bolts and nukes...

i wish :( Bolts and gtae yes/.. but RC specc Nukes sux.. what u described ^^ is Fire wizzors my friend.
 
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Cuthervaen

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Might be a bug but it's darn funny when door closes on panicked invaders :p
 
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old.Leel

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Repairing outer door from wall has been around since release.
Nothing new. Have mythic/goa stated that it's a bug/bug abuse?
Not to my knowledge...
 
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old.Buffer

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Originally posted by Deskiziado
Midis at Beedmer Faste tonight were exploiting a bug. Repair outer doors from inside the keep is a bug, and you are cheaters.

Those are you skills: CHEATERS

Right ok that was me repairing doors from inside bled, i was near gate keeper, and was getting damage from , albs/ casting on gatekeeper. Can you actually give me a link where it is bug abuse?

Also considering I ported outside several times to close doors after repair, and was killed doing so, i think your whinge is directed at the fact u couldnt get the inner door down fast enough.

Perhaps the fact that hibs came and ganked you maybe hurts, and we gave them a good kicking after they whipped your ass
 
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AbPoon

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Someone owned the Albs again, would of thought they'd have got used to it by now.

Bug abuse? maybe, so's was the many albs who always used to ss jump onto bled battlements last patch but i lived with it, not really worth getting all worked up about is it?
 
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Glottis_Xanadu

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It is a cheat though. Fixing a door through a solid wall is a bug, and exploiting it must be a cheat simply due to logic. Maybe not enough people have been using the tactic, but I'm sure Mythic would agree on this viewpoint.

And exclaiming how great you are while exploiting a bug, and defending a keep... that is pretty sad. Not really hard to defend a keep, I find the Albions that still attacked the keep more impressive than the gloating Mids that managed to defend it.
Regards, Glottis
 
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starblade

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Oh stop complaining .... same would have been done by albs or hibs and don't come telling me that aint true :p

Personally, I enjoyed the siege a lot .... a fantastic defense and some sturdy attackers not giving in or going for an 'easy keep'.
So we didnt break through defense and got attacked by hibs in the end ... all part of the game. Went up in the end and saluted Rjan (I think it was ... was standing on keep wall in all dwarven gloriousness :p ) for some good ol' fun.
 
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Harhr

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Yay we cheated..what do do? Delete all midgard! but hey...what to do when there is nobody 0wning the albs and hibs anymore?
I dunno...Mythic, give the albs and hibs the same bug on one of their keeps so no posts like this are created. And if it has been going since release...i think someone must have posted it before.

BTW...nice job all the mids who took Fensalir yesterday :)
Deskizi..admit u posted this cause u got owned..
hmm maybe i was rude..no meaning to, trying to flash the facts
 
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Flimgoblin

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It works on Renaris too - had that done to us there.
Take names and RightNow em ;) never know, things might be done.

Those of you defending it as 'because Albion and Hibernia would do it' are stupid - hiding in walls was done by all three realms, doesn't make it any less of a cheat.

Screenshot jumping onto battlements was also bug abuse - shoulda taken names and reported them (in fact I think one or two people did get reported)
 
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Harhr

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hehe wasn't defending :) i prepared the taking of fens..
 
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Bleri McThrust

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Well I got stuck in the middle of the doors 4 times :uhoh:

We just couldnt get that 2nd door down fast enough. What with that and some poor soul making the rams just to far away from the door meant we were doomed even before the Hibs arrived.

As for wether its bug abuse or not ? Im not sure ! Its happened so many times in the past, and talked about, that no one seems to actually know.
 
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Khalen

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Ehm as far as I know it ain't a bug. Mythic left that ability in the game so defenders could defend better. You can still AE nuke em or send infils...
 
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AbPoon

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No-one ever focuses on solving the problem (IE. just aoe the sodding door like everyone else does 2 kill repair peeps) they just sit and cry about the problem itself.
 
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emer Roma

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Stop flame us,pls.

Buffer died about 4 times while reparing doors and needed chain heal , we all died lots of times while casting mezz/stunn/"GTAoE" from battlements.
And 3 times we engaged fight outside the keep and we won , without bugs or cheates :p

____________________

Emergency <Cutting Edge> Healer 50
 
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Belomar

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Originally posted by Karl [DAOC]
what u described ^^ is Fire wizzors my friend.
I am surprised no one has picked up on this before (specifically Wiffle, who has already posted in this thread), but Albion GTAoE is in Earth spec, not Fire spec. From what I've heard, Earth wizards have a little better utility than Fire wizards (AoE root, DD + snare, DoT), but only one good bolt and baseline DDs.
 
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-Wedge-

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How was the first door when you started?

Took a damn time getting through it (early yesterday evening), even with a ram... Only to find out we didnt have a ram for the 2nd door... :(

We where on the 2nd door for something like an hour before enough mids came to whipe us out :( (had it down to about 50%, we where kind of lacking tanks)

And Karl, the 'wizard' you are refering to is an Earth Wizard, which is kinda like RC spec, since its kinda crap... (although I do think its more attracting then RC spec though, because of some added utilities)

RC at least has a base-dd in the same line, earth-wizard line has no DD in the earth line at all (Except AE's)...
 
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vintervargen

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the RC baseline contains no DD's. we get 1 bolt, 1 AE 1 GTAoE and 3 resist debuffs.

ah, wedge thought u meant the spec-line :/
 
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exc_hib_boo

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You can repair what you can target.

Stand on the courtyard inside the inner door and target outer door and voila, repair.

Is it illegal to use F7 which is "next object target".

Where's the cheat in it? Maybe its immoral to use F7 to cycle through objects to get the outer door targetted for repairs, maybe it isnt, post it to rightnow and let us know.
 
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Pin

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Errr. No bug abuse here at all. No cheating at all. Target the door with F7, stand in repair range and repair. Everyone can do it.

When repairing the outer door from inside, you are also in range for being damaged (ae gatekeeper, gtae, etc), not hard to stop it being repaired.

If the guy ports out to close the door, kill him (much better plan would have been for them to send a stealther outside to close the door, but Buffer doesn't have the brains for that ;) )

Always make sure you have a ram for the second door if there are defenders.

Best plan is to send a good infiltrator to kill the defenders (particularly those repairing), and seeing as though it was Buffer repairing, that should be an easy task ;)
 
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-Wedge-

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Well the fact that you couldnt reach the door if it 'was real', would mean you shouldnt be able to repair the door either... How can you repair something you cant reach...

It is probably a 'fix' for something that Mythic was unable to solve... And that would be, how can you repair the outer-door if the inner-door is still closed...

I think the end idea would be that you should be able to open the inner door... Which you cant... (which was probably an idea, but was too easy to exploit, get a level 1-alt to a keep and open the doors :p)

Its a pretty funny sight if the outer-door closes while tanks are bashing on the inner-door... :p

I'm glad the mids that where there when we attacked Bled yesterday either where unable to repair the doors or didnt think of this, since we only had about 4-5 tanks and they where all on the doors... Easy to get overrun if only casters are left :p

What I meant with RuneMasters RC-line is that they have a base DD in the RC line (Rune of Destruction)... Which means that their base-DD wont have a lot of variance in damage if they go for 47-RC...

While an Earth Wizard has to use either Fire or Ice base-DD's, but have a lot of variance with them (since going for 48-Earth wont leave much for fire or ice)...

The earth line (base and spec) has no single target DD at all...
 
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lofff

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Originally posted by vintervargen
the RC baseline contains no DD's. we get 1 bolt, 1 AE 1 GTAoE and 3 resist debuffs.

ah, wedge thought u meant the spec-line :/


176 DD 3sec casttime energy <--- RC baseline
 
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Flimgoblin

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baseline DD will do good damage, but you'll be out of mana in seconds.

I heard a lot of voidies and runecarvers respecced out of the bolt lines since bolts are so broken :(
 
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-Wedge-

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So what its 3s, the fire spec dd's are 2.8, thats 0.2 diff... Dont think you'll notice it...

If I'd make a runie, I wouldnt go for RC, at least not as primary spec... I'd go for 47 Darkness, 25 Runecarving and 8 Suppression...

No Nearsight, but damn, 219-base DD with 15% debuff on 1 char... OUCH... You might not be able to use your debuff all the time, but when you can... You open a huge can-of-whoop-ass...
 
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cbh_branwolf

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Hehe, funny

Well, it's very funny that this whine is coming from albs, cuz I have personally seen it used several times from albs, mids and hibs alike to use this feature. So stop whining, it's not officially a bug, and everyone does it!!!!!


Branwolf ShadowDancer out!
 

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