Exping out of malm

[old.Khain]

I have a 41 SB and after trying Malm a few times and waiting on list for 9hours + without getting into a group.

I was wondering if their are any ppl wanting to team up and try exping in some other areas.

Or if their are some groups doing it already that i could join.

Please.

SB is called Soals

 

[mid_Efour]

"DAOC is only a game, its is not, will not, can not, never will be RL. With it been a game their is a requirment (not listed on the box) that you should play it for fun. Also please remeber in RL you can not get a rezz."

Heracy, burn him!

 

[Brunore]

Originally posted by old.Khain
I have a 41 SB and after trying Malm a few times and waiting on list for 9hours + without getting into a group.

I was wondering if their are any ppl wanting to team up and try exping in some other areas.

Or if their are some groups doing it already that i could join.

Please.

SB is called Soals

you are better off going to spin until 42 i think, then head to malmo first thing in the morning, 8am ish, to be certain of getting a group.

Sad but very true.

The other option is see if you can group with guys in DF who are going on a prince/legion raid, maybe guildmates or something.

I have tried loads of times to get 1fg to head somewhere else, only a couple of times have i had any joy.

I dont know, people just seem to prefer the bad manners, attitude and crap xp that comes with malmo.

And the list is a total waste of time as well, I seen people pick and choose from the list too many times, and not for a seer or pbt, but for a mate or someone who is L45+. if there is a list you should follow it.

But some times there is no option but to go, unless you want to solo in spin.

 

[Ragnarok1978]

Malmo is really turning into a sad place, and it is rather hard to tell you where to go for exp atm.

When SI and the new uber dungeons hit, there should be a few alternatives for you outthere.

Personally I duo my shaman+zerker in spind at the moment, there are nice mobes there for them, but solo you might wanna look into varulvhamn. It's easier to fight solo there and with stealth you can sneak to the good spots w/o aggro.

Elite and royal guards allmost allways carry a HUGE camp bonus, weak to slash as well.

 

[Farnis]

HI mate -

Same problem here - 41 sb also. I am trying to get a full group for Raum. If I get one sorted and your online ill message you.

Ta
Fink.

 

[old.Spug]

Personally I'll yell at my guildee's till I can get a group of 4+ together, then we hit Raum... providing theres a group you can xp there quite nicely... I've done the last three levels there, and at 39, things are starting to turn red to me... not everything mind you, just the entrance stuff...

 

[klavrynd]

It's just the community saying "we've got enough sb's go and level something useful"

 

[Fafnir]

I was thinking the same so i went and deleted my sb

 

[mavericky]

One thing that can help if you lvl in Varul or Spind, is to get up really early, camp bonus is superb then. Can make the trudge upto 42 (where you get a group bonus in Malmo) alot easier

 

[SilverHood]

We got people in our guild who get their only xp from legion/prince raids/other big hunts

shame they don't happen that often, but see if you can find out about them happening, then see if you can get a group (spare slot), just tagging aloing for the xp.

Or you could hang about in DF, asking if any chash farming groups wants you along...

 

[Wij]

I got 50 without Malm. Just get buffed and kill things in Spind

 

[Roo Stercogburn]

The reason I think people go to Malmo isn't because of uber xp - it isn't uber, or rather, rarely is. Raumarik and Vanern have very good xp spots for high level chars if you know your way around Midgard. It is because you are pretty much guaranteed to find other people to group with that makes people gravitate towards the lair and Yar. I've lost count of the number of times I've seen people sitting hopefully for hours when they could easily get a group together to H-Stones or lake and for both of those, you don't even need a full group if you have the levels and if they know what they are doing.

Unfortunately the pressure-cooker effect of having all those people trying to get their chars levelled in such a small area (lair/Yar) means that the worst is often brought out in people and the people with little social grace can get away with various degrees of unpleasantness with very little comeback because by the time people get a group, they are so grateful they will put up with pretty much anything, and this is especially true for the less group-friendly classes.

I've got a lot of sympathy for the rogue classes - I was levelling my SM before it was made a group-friendly class and it was hard to get in groups, and at Malmo it was even worse.

Of course, that may simply have been because I'm crap

 

[kain_pravus]

You'll probably see me in Spindel around 6am (after I finish work) soloing on the bridge, slow but less annoyance than bitchy people...

Plus your not 100 miles from every where like malmo is, I don't like staying in one place for too long and malmo is a tad too far off the beaten track for us thanes

 

[Fafnir]

I dinged 50 in spindel too, went there at lvl 47.5 and started killing Trollkarls, took about 24 hours spread over 3 days. 1 day ahead of what i was aiming for.

 

[klavrynd]

Roo, i can't count the hours i spent in spindel soloing, and the groups in Raumarik and Vanern, but they were nothing compared to the exp-over-time we got in Malmo (Lair/Yar that is, H is sookie sookie exp as well) .

You have slim to no downtime (except DT) which does alot.

I've got a lot of sympathy for the rogue classes - I was levelling my SM before it was made a group-friendly class and it was hard to get in groups, and at Malmo it was even worse

I remember my last day at malmo, where our main healer had quit and we got Afrodite (aphrodite?) to do the mezzing for us, which rather surprisingly worked. Afaic sm's are just a nuker with some utility and are, as far as exping is concerned alot more welcome in my team then a rogue

 

[Wij]

My last few lvls were camped by the Gunstlings in Spind with a Shammy on my 2nd PC. About a bub an hour. Not that much different to Malmo and no waiting for hours on list beforehand. Also I can log whenever I feel like it and come back when I feel like it. Stress free xp and nobody telling me to put their xp needs before my bladder's needs

 

[kain_pravus]

The wonders of having a buff bot

No such luck here :-(

 

[Blue Ix]

Midgard's stealthers are lucky that we've got the list thingie going on in malmo. In hibernia for example where all they do at 45+ is pbae exp there's no room for a ranger or a nightshade basically - or they just don't want them in over a tank with a self insta heal.

 

[Roo Stercogburn]

Yeh, I've done main mez. SM takes a bit sharper peelers than healer due to pyjama armour but it works. I didn't mean the xp wasn't better than places like Spin solo, I just didn't think it was that uber compaired to places like Raum and Vanern. Apologies for bad wording. (Does that sound like I'm backing down? Yeh, probably. Fear Teh Klav ) I guess the exception would be single group pulling execs at lair, done that a few times farming drops and getting outstanding xp for some guildpeeps.

I'd argue that Greater Fenrir in Raumarik for single group provide as good/better xp than lair 2-group system, though you have to be on the ball because of scout mobs blundering into you and it can get interesting if you are agro to WoWs. You can do with 2 groups for safety but xp is lower. Our first few trips there were 2 group afairs but after we got the hang of it, we don't even take full groups and happily go out there now, though to be fair high level Fedaykin xp groups tend to have at least 1 level 50 in them riding shotgun.

Jotun Outcasts in Vanern are slightly less xp but because of the pop rate, you get very good xp over time, and again you can do it with single group. Prior to epic armour, the hauberks/jerkins/vests that Mokkur drops were very sought after, and even now they are good for chars lvl45+ that won't have epic for a few levels since they are AF100(50 for casters), though not high quality.

Both these areas can also be done with less than full group if you have lvl50s along cash/drop farming.

I'd be interested to have a direct compare of xp/time pulling Ice Striders in Raum vs scavs etc in Spin for solo peeps. Striders give group bonus because come 2 at a time min. Once in a while you can find a scout and get very high xp if you can handle the adds. Highest score on single pull for me was around 133m I think. Striders can be nasty though if you don't have mez since they root and the Frostweavers nuke as well. Striders are my preferred mob of choice even for cash farming (if DF not open), since they are more fun and drop 2 bags of loot per pull. Wights, Wraiths and Liches close by for variation and drop hunting too.

 

[Brunore]

Originally posted by Roo Stercogburn
Highest score on single pull for me was around 133m I think.

Ok, Roo is taking us xping from now on.

 

[Cami]

my sm (or Rild if needed) is in, you just call me matey

 

[Ottar]

Ottar dinged 50 long time ago, when there was no list in Malmo. Heard bad stories of what goes on there. Now, after a couple of days of exping there with my young spiritmaster, the actual experience was rather different from what I expected. The list system works. People who keep these lists are usually doing good service to the realm and /bow to them. It is quite possible to get into Yar groups even with what is usually thought of as a not very group friendly char. Playing alts while waiting on these lists helps. Also, people bitching about was not nearly as much of a problem one would expect from comments on these boards here.

Where the system does not work as well as it used to is exp itself. Not exp per kill, that always wasnt that great, especially for G2. The thing about Malmo always was the spawn and killrate. Kill fast and your exp over time is like nothing outside these spawns. Last time I was there, the group at Yar did on average 20 pulls per hour. Thats 1 pull in 5 minutes. Thats about half of normal pulling speed with a good group, spawnrate permitting.

Where does the downtime come from? Sorting groups. People leaving. Waiting for their replacements to show up. By the time that happens, another person has LD'd or left. Then the puller dies and 16 people wait for ressillness to go. Then CC dies. Then another one leaves and we wait for replacement to show up. Follows 10 minutes of good pulling. Then someone leaves and we wait for replacement to show up. Then puller dies..

In them old days, we went in with 2 groups from Malmo entrance stone. People knew if they had to stay there for at least couple of hours. Groups were sorted once, at the entrance. Then hours later when people got tired and left, adjustments were made. For those several hours, pulling was more or less constant with pauses during dragon time. Exp over time was 2-3 times better.

As it is now, Malmo exp is still kinda good. A bit better even than is achievable in other spots around the realm. But only a bit. Actually, a good group with sealfarming 50s helping out can do better.

Potentially, Malmo is real fast way to 50. Imagine decent pbaoe groups at lair! Such things would have to be pre-arranged however. Dunno if that is achievable in practice.

Ottar

 

[Makwaerk]

have seen Kids doing pbaoe group at lair the last 2 days .. so it is done.

Tbh I find I get the bedst/funniest xp by going to alb entrence in df .. you bash a lot of mobs on the way (you can get lvl 50's to help you xp) and there is always the chance of albs/hibs

 

[snikit]

ello, i'm currantly lvlimg my Sb through spind, at lvl 40-44 a good spot is in with the spindel spiders and silksters (blue/yellow) from there you can move down to terra crabs and/or scavs for a couple of lvl's it cam get about slow at time's but i've found that there are nearly always people there so decent conversatin isn't to far away, which is nice, occasionally you'll be able to pair up with some one and take on the higher con mobs for alittle bit of fast xp, occaisionally you'll find some one with a buff bot aswell (cheers dosferra) who if you ask nicely will help out for the time they are there.

i've tried malmo but i dont have the patence to w8 for the list, i found this way may be slower xp but it's steady and your not w8ing for some one to pull for 30 mins plus.

DF also has some good spots, dreamhanes/soultorn/rocots, but becarefull of the baf, they some times bring the whole family, cos they got no friends. Sometimes you'll find groups with an empty spot you can join.

there are quite a few Sb's in training and not everyone is willing to help us through this part of the haul, just keep looking forward to all the fun of lvl 50, and it'll make the unbearable bearable (just).

 

[Brunore]

Originally posted by snikit
DF also has some good spots, dreamhanes/soultorn/rocots, but becarefull of the baf, they some times bring the whole family, cos they got no friends. Sometimes you'll find groups with an empty spot you can join.

And Krieg likes to kill grey/green/blue cons around that area.

 

[Blue Ix]

Originally posted by Makwaerk
have seen Kids doing pbaoe group at lair the last 2 days .. so it is done.

Pbae was good fun, pbae at lair was great fun - at 49 we did lots of 8+ drakulv pet pulls flawless (as in, the ulvs never got to take a swing at us before they died), we got wiped once or twice trying to figure out pet pulls but from then on it was insane. Imagine 8 drakulvs worth of exp split between eight people - per pull. ;p~

 

[old.Khain]

Originally posted by Blue Ix


Pbae was good fun, pbae at lair was great fun - at 49 we did lots of 8+ drakulv pet pulls flawless (as in, the ulvs never got to take a swing at us before they died), we got wiped once or twice trying to figure out pet pulls but from then on it was insane. Imagine 8 drakulvs worth of exp split between eight people - per pull. ;p~

can you explain pet pulling in more detail pls