Excal lag??

Edaemos

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For anyone from Goa reading these forums, for the last few hours alb/excal has been getting really nasty lag spikes every minute or 2, sometimes 5+ lag spikes within 20 seconds, any update on what is wrong with our server?
 

Zenythe

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First off use pingplotter plot for bout 10 min or so and see if it's coming from our end. If it is coming from our end (we here in the office aren't having probs with the game servers at all) take into consideration there there are people pulling a 270 meg file from us at the moment in preperation for the NF open beta.
 

Tzan

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Zenythe said:
First off use pingplotter plot for bout 10 min or so and see if it's coming from our end. If it is coming from our end (we here in the office aren't having probs with the game servers at all) take into consideration there there are people pulling a 270 meg file from us at the moment in preperation for the NF open beta.

many people have been having lag spikes at same times for two three days now.
 

Edaemos

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Zenythe said:
First off use pingplotter plot for bout 10 min or so and see if it's coming from our end. If it is coming from our end (we here in the office aren't having probs with the game servers at all) take into consideration there there are people pulling a 270 meg file from us at the moment in preperation for the NF open beta.

Im in a situation where i can log out atm, could you give me the excalibur ip address please.

thx
 

inqy

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it was lagging real bad on Prydwen - DF yesterday afternoon for loads of our guild too.
 

feac

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Zenythe said:
First off use pingplotter plot for bout 10 min or so and see if it's coming from our end. If it is coming from our end (we here in the office aren't having probs with the game servers at all) take into consideration there there are people pulling a 270 meg file from us at the moment in preperation for the NF open beta.
Used that program left it running for 10 mins and got packet loss on 193.252.123.33 & and pings of upto 210 on 193.252.122.14 which is the hop before excal server (193.252.123.33) this happened 3 times within 20 mins then not at all for another 30 mins so i would safely say its GoA's end :p

nearly fainted as Opentransit was almost always below 30 :eek2: ,



edit excal ip is : 193.252.123.33
 

Daedalus

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Even then, 270 ms spikes should hardly be noticable. It's been like that for ages (400 ms lagspikes) and the lag on Prydwen is unbearable atm, there's also lag on Excal but it's less now. At least, in the SI region anyway. That's why I started playing an animist there yesterday.

Since the ping stays steady, even at big packets, I think that the internal GoA routers themselves are under heavy physical stress. So, the lag should be gone as soon as everyone has the NF pack :-0.

Or until GoA moves the download to a co-location outside their network.
 

Edaemos

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im getting regular spikes atthis IP 193.252.122.14 up to 452 so far

Edit: up to 525 now at that ip
 

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Tzanetos the LoverBoy said:
many people have been having lag spikes at same times for two three days now.

yes, all of my guild and everyone I know have felt this.
 

angrysquirrel

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Zenythe said:
First off use pingplotter plot for bout 10 min or so and see if it's coming from our end. If it is coming from our end (we here in the office aren't having probs with the game servers at all) take into consideration there there are people pulling a 270 meg file from us at the moment in preperation for the NF open beta.


its been non stop since thursday last week, irregular periods of lag which comes and goes.
 

Darzil

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Aye, very rarely get lag here, and it's been happening a lot in the last few days. Seems to affect all in a group, too

Darzil
 

Etaew

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prehaps they should have used a torent download system :)
 

Svartmetall

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Tzanetos the LoverBoy said:
many people have been having lag spikes at same times for two three days now.

Aye, lots of us on Mid/Excal getting it too. I LD'd twice because of it today and I almost never LD.

...
 

Danya

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I clocked some heavy packet loss (bursts of 100% - averaged 30% over 5 mins) on the opentransit routers yesterday when most of the server was spiking, so it might not be goa's fault entirely. :p
 

Behmoth

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been lagging and lding ever since thursday also and same very rarely ld
 

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Do like me and complain to Right Now and you get an arsy answer

Subject
The lag on Mid/pryd

Customer (N N) 10/10/2004 11:59 AM
The lag on this server is unacceptable. When are you going to solve this problem? It is not a new thing or just affecting a few players, it is long standing problem that you really need to adress!


Discussion Thread
Response (CM) 10/11/2004 05:51 PM
And as has been said continuously [we told you so stupid customer, keep paying the full monthly fee and kkthxbye] by the Gamemasters. It is being looked into [that is all you need to know]. We can not replicate it and it does not follow any locigal (number of players on the server, number of players in the zone etc) pattern [we are clueless]. We have spoken to Mythic and they have the same issue on some of their servers leading us to believe that it is something in the coding causing it [dont expect it to get better]. We have upgraded the hardware as well as increasing bandwidth. [see we done our part now bugger of]

Yours sincerely,
---------------------------------------------
European Dark Age of Camelot Community Manager

What about "We are sorry for the bad quality of the server at the moment that affects you in a negative way. As a paying customer you are entitled to a reduced fee until we can solve this problem". :puke:
 

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Been on TeamSpeak with peeps all over Denmark past few days, we are ALL having this MAJOR lag once in a while, lasting somewhat 10-30 seconds. We almost got killed in a pull because of this ! :(

WTF is all that about GOA blaiming the CUSTOMERS for the lag???????????????????
Are all GOA employees totally incabable of explaining their ***PAYING*** customers what's going on!? ... It seems to me that they haven't got the slightest idea what the word 'SERVICE' means!
If those incompetent GameMasters worked for me, then I would smack the living sh!te out of em!!!! ... Im not saying that *all* the GM's are jackarses, but GOA, you might wanna tell your staff not to be so fecking dismissive!

Im not very happy with GOA in general :puke:
 

Svartmetall

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Greenfingers said:
WTF is all that about GOA blaiming the CUSTOMERS for the lag???????????????????
Show me where GOA 'blame customers for the lag'...?
Are all GOA employees totally incabable of explaining their ***PAYING*** customers what's going on!? ... It seems to me that they haven't got the slightest idea what the word 'SERVICE' means!
They actually are explaining things as far as they can see them from their end. The lag we're getting ATM is fucking annoying, of course, but don't let that deafen you to what the GMs are actually saying.
If those incompetent GameMasters worked for me
They're not incompetent at all, so get off your high horse and stop flaming people who are actually trying to help you/us. I have been one of the strongest denouncers of GOA's customer service, but it has gotten a hell of a lot better since the advent of Zenythe, Requiel et al.
Im not saying that *all* the GM's are jackarses
Really? Sounds like it.
you might wanna tell your staff not to be so fecking dismissive!
You might want to not rant at them so much then, or else why should they feel inclined to help you in future if this is how you're going to talk to them?

Otho said:
Do like me and complain to Right Now and you get an arsy answer
There was nothing 'arsy' in the answer you got, it was clear and to the point.

...
 

Jayce

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The lag started roughly when the NF client was available to download and it will stop roughly when all have the NF client.

Problem solved, not that hard really.
 

Greenfingers

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Svartmetall said:
Show me where GOA 'blame customers for the lag'...?
Becuase GOA doesn't admit that it's their fault, the only 3 options, ye?
My connection being crappy.
My Internet Supplier.
or
Open Transit.

I've been performing a traceroute several times this morning.
I get EXTREME delay when entering GOA's systems, up to 500ms+++ ... explain that plz.

Svartmetall said:
They actually are explaining things as far as they can see them from their end. The lag we're getting ATM is fucking annoying, of course, but don't let that deafen you to what the GMs are actually saying.
Only thing they are doing is that they are saying that they can't see anything wrong with the server... but something IS wrong, and it's not just a small group of people on the server, a specefic area or a Internet Supplier - it's the upload/download from the server.

Svartmetall said:
You might want to not rant at them so much then, or else why should they feel inclined to help you in future if this is how you're going to talk to them?
Who needs to get off his high horse now?
I tried to be reasonable, but when that failed, I got angry... this is me being angry... U don't want to see me being pissed off. :/
 

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God fucking damnit. Yes it sucks, and yes we all wish that there wasn't any server-side lag, but hey, shit happens. Stop whining at GoA, they're looking into it right now, and they're doing everything they can. Trust them for once, it's not like YOU fucking mean anything, it's not like YOU could come over and fix the problem, you're not all-knowing. Half of you don't even realize how fucking complex/sophisticated this game is on its server-side. Assholes.

Get a clue.
 

Greenfingers

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Daedalus said:
God fucking damnit. Yes it sucks, and yes we all wish that there wasn't any server-side lag, but hey, shit happends. Stop whining at GoA, they're looking into it right now, and they're doing everything they can. Trust them for once, it's not like YOU fucking mean anything, it's not like YOU could come over and fix the problem in your all-knowingness. Half of you don't even realise how fucking complex/sophisticated this game is on its server-side. Assholes.


Get a clue.

We are entitled as paying customers to get a decent explenation to this lag, aren't we?
 

Marcus75

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Agree with Greenfingers - sure the customer support is better but yet the lag that Prydwen/Midgard have had more or less since ToA day one is still just a thing they monitor and hope might get solved when they upgrade the servers. Sure they try to solve it but trying when it's been this long isnt good enough when they charge us money the whole time - they gotta put this problem up front instead of making sites for Catacombs and other stuff thats months away still.

And this has nothing to do with the gamemasters that respond on these boards...they are doing a great job in my book.
 

Darzil

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As this current spate of Lag is also hitting Alb -> Prydwen hard, in all zones, it's quite possible it isn't server side.

Darzil
 

Daedalus

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Greenfingers said:
We are entitled as paying customers to get a decent explenation to this lag, aren't we?
Yes, and they will post it on the website as soon as they have a decent explanation.
 

Teh FnoRd

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Just because GOA say that they haven't found any/the problem doesn't mean they aren't looking. As a matter of fact they say they are looking to solve the problem, and have even involved Mythic into this.
Yes as a paying customer you are entitled to get annoyed and angry, but that doesn't give you any excuse to be rude and obnoxious. That kind of behaviour only makes you look stupid. :eek:
 

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