Eve Good or bad????

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roojam

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I am thinking about buying eve online.

But is it any good and why?

Just curious really.

Also, when do you have to pay your first subscription fee on the game?

Any advise would be much appreciated

Oh, and yes Im new by the way :p
 
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scalpy

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When I first got this game I really thought that my gaming desires had been met.

Here was an online, skill based, trading/combat game with possibly the most stunning graphics I'd ever seen...

After 1 day of play I was bored beyond belief. Any game where you do nothing for the majority of the time that you're playing has to be flawed.
 
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roojam

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Thanks for the reply scalpy.

Anyone else wish to comment?
 
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old.Kurt_Angle

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Depends what you mean by doing nothing for the majority of the time....

Have to remember the game is totally in it's infancy, and thats how people are curently playing it.

Id say it's pretty much imposable to judge the game on the first day playing, simpley because the game does force you to take one route for that day.....


I dunno about other multiplayer worlds, but for me you can pretty much get out of eve what you want from it, well given you like the genre of what eve is in the first place that is.

The whole trading thing, you realy can spin a deal up in eve, not just playing the market, but striking deals, playing the middle man ect...

Then there's the community aspect of the game, thats one of the reasons iv'e not joined a corp yet. Im much happier among the masses helping people out, mining, hauling, protection, giving newbs a helping hand, taking them on tours of lower sec areas ect...


Thats pretty much why it's good for me, i wouldn't say eve's for everyone, but if your looking to immerse yourself, and fancy getting to know people, the majority of which are extremly friendly, then id give eve a shot.

Like you i had no idea if eve would be good for me or not, it's imposable to judge from reviews, because the reviewers either love it to death and give it plus marks without pointing out it's weak points, or hate it without giving it any plus points the game has.

All being said, the game has massive potential, just ccp have to keep the greifers in check because it's all to easy for them to spoil the game for the majority of people, who like i say are extremly friendly people who in the end of the day will stop playing if it gets to them.

It does go beyond roleplaying, because you know the other end of the line, the greifers don't give two hoots about roleplaying (even though they use that excuse, all the time), there just doing it to get kicks, much like cheaters and exploiters in fps games:(
 
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Midgardian

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Yes i'll comment

The graphics are excellent.

The gameplay is what you want it to be.

To Start out, you will need to spend some time mining Asteroids to earn money. This to some, is what is being talked of as Boring beyond belief. This, in my opion is not different to standing in the same spot in most other MMORPG's and killing the same mob over and over again.

Once you have some money, you can start making oney other ways. You can buy blueprints, which then opens up a second income stream. You can start killing Pirates..easy ones at first. Equip your ship with Mining Lasers, Some combat drones, and then you can mine, and take out the pirates at the same time.

There are missions in the game which range from crap to good.

There are corporations full of players who want to better themselves. There are rogue players who do nothing but prey on noob players.

At the end of the day, the game does appear to be boring to start with, but once you get going, and have a decent income from different sources, then thats when the fun begins.

I started playing Eve the day in went live (was in beta but that dont count). It was slow to start, but now I have a damn good corp arround me, we make good money, we mine, we fight, sometimes we win, sometimes we dont. We have lots of Blueprints, and we make lots of ships.

You get 1 month free..give it a go
 
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Louster

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"The gameplay is what you want it to be"? Say that about any game and it'll always be insane lies. A game without limits might fit that, but then that wouldn't be a game, and would surpass even reality, and would probably be totally chaotic and messed up. Any game has limits. What you mean is, "the gameplay is: mining, trading (though when I last played this was still screwed up and pointless), "killing" stuff by toggling on weaponry (just as in just about every other MMG out there - they need to scrap this idea, and yeah so the hardware and bandwidth may not be up to realtime combat en masse but whatever, it's still a shit system), exploring lots of systems that are all fundamentally the same, "manufacturing" which involves clicking a few buttons and waiting and uhh... socialising". Great. Although really I'm basing this on my beta time and my 2-day retail experience of it a while back. I gave up retail after losing everything I had "worked" for due to some lag fuckup which left me dead - yeah uh, as a side note, they seem to have the progression curve pretty much backwards, as the people posting before testify: ridiculously slow to start and speeds up as you get more powerful. Hoo. Surefire way to get new people to play, yep.

On the plus side, from what I gather the developers are pretty independent, and some of the ideas are interesting. Really I think they're on a pretty good track, but right now (or right then, again I haven't played it that recently) it sucks lots. I would recommend trying it in maybe 3 or 4 months' time, which is when I'll probably give it another go.
 
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Louster

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Also as Summo has pointed out a few times, the fact that it's all in free-floating, 3rd person camera mode does kill the immersiveness of it somewhat. 3rd person detaches you from the character you play, and the fact that your "character" is essentially some (admittedly pretty nice looking) alien spacecraft doesn't help at all.
 
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Neural Network

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I’ve past the first moth of playing EVE and here’s what I get of it. Read it or don’t, I don’t care.
First I would like to comment on the common phrase that EVE is the best mining simulator around, and yes, it is a great mining simulator. I don’t mind that, there’s a lot of thinking in maximising your mining, defending from pirates, transporting your minerals and producing items. But here it stops. I’ve collected 10 million credits and what can I use them for? Nothing.
I can buy a larger ship, for what? More mining and pirate killing in a larger scale. The same goes for the better equipment. It’s just better, an improvement from the basic, but no really difference. All systems nearly look the same, and there isn’t much to interact with. Game play wise, not graphical. This makes it very hard if you want to put your touch on the EVE universe.
All the corporations are always telling about their easy money and large ships, but there’s really no difference mining in the lowbie system shooting easy pirates than mining in any other system. The basics are the same.
I have 10 million credits and the only thing I can use them for is myself. Maybe I’m from a rare breed that doesn’t value a personal gain over making joy for and with other people. But I can’t use my 10 millions for that.
I’ve found a group of mature players, which I have fun playing with, but I think I’ll quit the EVE universe after next months subscription runs out.
 
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Drum

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Back in my dim distant youth I used to play a game called Elite (on the C64!). I used to love this game and would play it for hours at a stretch.

A far as I am concerned Eve is the re-incarnation of Elite, but with added multi-player goodness. Add to that the amazing graphics coupled with the fact that there are true alternatives to the kill-xp-kill-xp-drop-level-kill treadmill that seems to make up the majority of other MMORPG and you have almost the perfect package (for me anyway) in Eve.

I say 'almost' because, as someone pointed out earlier, the game is still in its infancy. With time I think it can only become even more immersive.
 
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Custy

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I think the game is awsome.

Its not for everyone tho, you have to make sure you have time to put into it, and most importantly, be able to cope with the first week or 2 doing boring mining runs (and these first weeks are a real bore, i suppose it gets rid of the lame 12 yr old kids) to get the funds to get the equipment to make money more ineteresting ways.
 
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Scouse

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Got it. Loved it at first, then after a couple of days playing I was more bored than I have been with any other game.

I love it now tho :) I keep finding fun things to do, then do them incessantly, get bored, find something else etc...

I'm currently sitting in my bog-standard imicus in 0.0 space in the outer regions, ducking and diving between big-ass pirate ships whilst they fight the legions of cruisers that have turned up to collec the nice bounty that the pirates drop when they're destroyed....


...they didn't count on me nipping in and fucking off with their stuff - I'm so cheeky now that they laugh when I manage it rather than try to blow me out of the sky ;)
 
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Tom

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hehe try that with me sunshine and I'll jam you to fuck, before smelting your ship
 
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Scouse

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Don't kid yourself - you LOVE thieving scousers ;)

:D





/edit: fuck me. Don't ask why I checked - but I wondered if after 3 years I was anywhere near 1000 posts. Hit it with this one!! Phreakayyy! :great:
 
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evilmonkeh

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i have had similar experiences
first day i found it interesting, but then i kind of got a bit boored of mining, and played bf1942 a bit.
i didnt play eve much for a few days, but suddenly i found interest in the game (not sure what:) ) and now im playing it loads.
just started a breakaway corp with my friends (who have been playing since start)
it seems i enjoy the business side of things:)
 
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-sirch-

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You dont HAVE to mine in the initial stage. If you can get someone enough money in the initial stages, you can earn much more money buying minerals at knocked down prices and flying them to sell at the normal price.

I started buying mex at 12, isogen at 55, and nox at 180. Fill up even a velator on those and you make a handsome profit. I was also lucky enough to find someone wanting to buy 1 tritium at 500,000 isk (what an aweful mistake to make).

Then i ran into the seed scam, and was able to; instead of flying a short distance to buy over inflated seed, I flew to another region, where I knew the price was a lot lower, and was able to scam the scammer.

So, in about a week of playing, I had a few giggles, and over 5 million ISK.

Ah... you say... but to trade you need initial capital. Yes, well I told someone that ive found a way to sit around and do nothing and get 25% return on my money. I couldnt say how, of course, because then everyone will be doing it. This got him really interested. He wanted to give me some money..

ok, but dont give me a lot, i said, im not very trustworthy...

That 500,000 investment was a big help, and I paid him bad. honest :)

Theres fun to be had in Eve, but in my opinion its just to do with money and power. I think theres a glass ceiling on this level of fun, but I havent hit it yet. I hope that CCP raise the ceiling before I get there.

I havent got a corp yet, im having fun now getting noobs to fill my large indi. I'll buy them imicus's pay them an hourly wage, teach them to protect me against the odd pirate threat, and if they want a corp I enroll them in a corp that im friendly with. Everyone seems happy.

My current training is in refinining (refiner efficiency actually).

So, in summary, it's fun, but not in the conventional sense, and to what limits, I have no idea.
 
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.Cask

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That's a pretty enterprising way of playing the game there -sirch-. You know you've found a decent game when you can benefit from such complex methods of play.

Me, I just mined and blew stuff up. Not surprising I only played for a week :(
 

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