Evade bugged ?

[Aiteal]

And to Aiteal: I thought two attackers in the front arc would reduce the evade rate, but guess I am wrong. You happen to have a link?

I'll see if I can find one on critshot on VN
A few hunters such as Wulf and Quisa the Hunter TL tested it out afaik, thats why hunters keep pushing for it to be included in TL reports.

 

[Puppet]

WTF? first a valkyre whine
now a hunter whine?

I consider hunters the hardest enemy in the game on my stealthers:

* Resistant to my mundane damage (piercing)
* Access to 2 style-reduction arti's + SoM means ALOT of damage will be gone from my dualwielding
* Access to Forceful Zephyr
* Access to Ignore Pain
* Access to MoStealth to avoid stealth-openers
* Serious damage with that 2H which my SoM isnt very effective against (!)

Now I do know that low-RR hunters are often RP-fodder, but try fighting a RR8+ hunter. And low RR hunters with those arti's can stand up pretty well (Brite for example).

Now ofcourse this also goes for rangers, but I dont fight them. Also hunters can spec in such a way 'they dont loose out anything' (eg. can get modest bow spec, decent BC and good spear/stealth), rangers can not.

Hunters can easily dish out 1500-2000 dmg in the FZ in melee, and access to a stun to avoid you firing any arti like Malice. GL doing that with any other stealther-class.

If you give the hunter-class some serious loving, then they become pretty much I-Win if you take out those high-RR ones. I for one dont wanna meet Kipu,Snornig, Gustav or Koxine if they get some serious love aswell.

Gonna respec Slash on Ranger in 1.82 and see how well I do then

edit: This is not a hunter-whine, I know without tricks they suffer alot against assassins, but I would think its fair enough to give you another view on the issue

 

[pip]

Have to be high rr well that just says it all, they need love big full stop.

 

[liloe]

a guildie of mine swears on the quest spear aswell. He says the self bladeturn procs a lot, which gives him a lot of melee resistance aswell. Ok, the spear is only 16.2dps, but at least he sais it's worth it =) No idea though, only played melee hunter in Thid (which rocked hard though)

 

[xxManiacxx]

quest spear works wonders between RR1-RR5

 

[Gamah]

Have to be high rr well that just says it all, they need love big full stop.

lol..yours is rr7 and still free rpts..takes a semi decent player to play a class well you know?

 

[Puppet]

Have to be high rr well that just says it all, they need love big full stop.

U dont need to be high-RR, ofcourse it helps and makes it easier, but its not a requirement.

Now I know deep down somewhere in Pip is someone with a brain, and when you use that, and look at your hunter 'template' and its resists/stats and such, do you honestly think you get the maximum out of your hunter?

Surely you can make choices in a hunter-template: Will I use Phoebus or try and get more utility out of it by using 4x10-necky? Will I SC in +11 Bow or do I leave it out for more HP/Resists. Will I max DEX/Bow and get Bow-arti's or do I aim for more close-combat survivability and dps?

However "17% slash 3% spirit 7% cold 12% matter" aint exactly a choice, but more a big 'Im lazy and I cba making a decent template'. However, being lazy isnt a reason why hunters should need love.

 

[Corran]

U dont need to be high-RR, ofcourse it helps and makes it easier, but its not a requirement.

Now I know deep down somewhere in Pip is someone with a brain, and when you use that, and look at your hunter 'template' and its resists/stats and such, do you honestly think you get the maximum out of your hunter?

Surely you can make choices in a hunter-template: Will I use Phoebus or try and get more utility out of it by using 4x10-necky? Will I SC in +11 Bow or do I leave it out for more HP/Resists. Will I max DEX/Bow and get Bow-arti's or do I aim for more close-combat survivability and dps?

However "17% slash 3% spirit 7% cold 12% matter" aint exactly a choice, but more a big 'Im lazy and I cba making a decent template'. However, being lazy isnt a reason why hunters should need love.

I want resists as good as that

 

[pip]

lol..yours is rr7 and still free rpts..takes a semi decent player to play a class well you know?

<cough>rr8

 

[pip]

U dont need to be high-RR, ofcourse it helps and makes it easier, but its not a requirement.

Now I know deep down somewhere in Pip is someone with a brain, and when you use that, and look at your hunter 'template' and its resists/stats and such, do you honestly think you get the maximum out of your hunter?

Surely you can make choices in a hunter-template: Will I use Phoebus or try and get more utility out of it by using 4x10-necky? Will I SC in +11 Bow or do I leave it out for more HP/Resists. Will I max DEX/Bow and get Bow-arti's or do I aim for more close-combat survivability and dps?

However "17% slash 3% spirit 7% cold 12% matter" aint exactly a choice, but more a big 'Im lazy and I cba making a decent template'. However, being lazy isnt a reason why hunters should need love.

slash 34 crush 32 thrust 30 bow+18 spear+18 cap str cap dex cap con cap quick heat/cold lowish artis lots prob to many tbh

 

[Pirkel]

Oh noes someone died in an RvR zone!

 

[Mavericky]

slash 34 crush 32 thrust 30 bow+18 spear+18 cap str cap dex cap con cap quick heat/cold lowish artis lots prob to many tbh

Pip, i hope you're including your PD in those numbers, or you might want to try and move those resists back down to the cap of 26 (except for racial +s)

 

[Punishment]

I consider hunters the hardest enemy in the game on my stealthers:

* Resistant to my mundane damage (piercing)
* Access to 2 style-reduction arti's + SoM means ALOT of damage will be gone from my dualwielding
* Access to Forceful Zephyr
* Access to Ignore Pain
* Access to MoStealth to avoid stealth-openers
* Serious damage with that 2H which my SoM isnt very effective against (!)

Now I do know that low-RR hunters are often RP-fodder, but try fighting a RR8+ hunter. And low RR hunters with those arti's can stand up pretty well (Brite for example).

Now ofcourse this also goes for rangers, but I dont fight them. Also hunters can spec in such a way 'they dont loose out anything' (eg. can get modest bow spec, decent BC and good spear/stealth), rangers can not.

Hunters can easily dish out 1500-2000 dmg in the FZ in melee, and access to a stun to avoid you firing any arti like Malice. GL doing that with any other stealther-class.

If you give the hunter-class some serious loving, then they become pretty much I-Win if you take out those high-RR ones. I for one dont wanna meet Kipu,Snornig, Gustav or Koxine if they get some serious love aswell.

Gonna respec Slash on Ranger in 1.82 and see how well I do then

edit: This is not a hunter-whine, I know without tricks they suffer alot against assassins, but I would think its fair enough to give you another view on the issue

Id have to tend to agree on this one , Was eating a rr3 Norse <im guessing full sword> hunter alive on my shade rr4/8 when i get Fzed , as normal when a scout does it im thinking ... yey time to pop an end pot

By the time im out of the fz 3 backstyles later , im down 2100hp with 28% slash resist scratching my head and rebuffing

 

[Jergiot]

dont matter if u got 1000 dex, evade is capped at 300 dex and 300 qui.

 

[Vladamir]

dont matter if u got 1000 dex, evade is capped at 300 dex and 300 qui.

Gj going to 300 quick in any case

 

[pip]

Id have to tend to agree on this one , Was eating a rr3 Norse <im guessing full sword> hunter alive on my shade rr4/8 when i get Fzed , as normal when a scout does it im thinking ... yey time to pop an end pot

By the time im out of the fz 3 backstyles later , im down 2100hp with 28% slash resist scratching my head and rebuffing

most spears tend to be thrust based maybe should cap that Fz is slow timer on it tho

 

[Punishment]

most spears tend to be thrust based maybe should cap that Fz is slow timer on it tho

He was Sword spec Pip old boy , 3x Ragnarok hurtage

And when u consider Hib Ns leather is resistant to slash and i had capped racial slash resist , thats kinda Oped imo

Punish <3

 

[wittor]

lost every time to a hunter not a SINGLE evade.

Got 389 dex 239 quick everything capped

Ok then

 

[Azathrim]

By the time im out of the fz 3 backstyles later , im down 2100hp with 28% slash resist scratching my head and rebuffing

And a ranger would not be able to dish that out with the back chain while you rode the zephyr?

 

[Punishment]

And a ranger would not be able to dish that out with the back chain while you rode the zephyr?

Errr ..... No

P.S. If a ranger has ever hit for 600-700 damage 3 consecutive times with snowshower or backslash ... i wanna see screenshots

Punish <3

 

[Meradesh]

ranger back style is nice to snare but dmg is roughly taunt dmg.

 

[Mavericky]

Errr ..... No

P.S. If a ranger has ever hit for 600-700 damage 3 consecutive times with snowshower or backslash ... i wanna see screenshots

Punish <3

he was probably using a LW on you, how are your magic resists? Even so that is high, so i am guessing no haste buff and crits hits. Oh, and a ranger wont hit that hard cos he doesnt swing a slow 2 hander