Evade bugged ?

bottler

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lost every fkn time to a hunter not a SIGLE evade.

Got 389 dex 239 quick everything capped

Fkn retarded
 

Basic_X

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isnt it so that the higher wep skill you got the lesser chance you get to be evaded/parryed/blocked? so if he was melee hunter (a what? does they exist?! woot) that might have been the reason...or you could have been unlucky...or you need a relogg, annyway..how manny times are "every fckn time?" :p
 

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It's not guaranteed that you will evade, it's a percentage formula that decides if your character feels like dodging the blow.
 

bottler

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well i should have 50% chance to evade with these stats.
 

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bottler said:
well i should have 50% chance to evade with these stats.

Depends on his ws aswell. high RR hunter with 50spear and 101 str/dex have quite high ws.
 

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There's no class in this game that hits the 50% evade on all classes in this game, it all comes down to your stats, your evade skill and the opponents weaponskill.
 

Neffneff

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bottler said:
lost every fkn time to a hunter not a SIGLE evade.

Got 389 dex 239 quick everything capped

Fkn retarded

QQ etc.

reckon once you taken his weaponskill into account you got about a 25% chance to evade...maybe a little more, but still, not exactly certain to evade.
 

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I tend to hit on my hunter all the time he 50 spear :) only prob is he hits like a wet weekend:(
 

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Playing about last night found that the pally i was dueling didnt block whilst he had shade skin up against my merc, parry didnt seam to be affected, as soon as he dropped the skin he blocked like a bitch (50 shield MoB4). Anyone else noticed this?
 

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A guy is rolling a weighted dice. The dice have 99% chance to roll a 6.

He rolls 10 times: 1 - 3 - 5 - 2 - 4 - 2 - 3 - 5 - 3 - 1

Unlikely? Sure. Can it happen? Certainly so. Is it bugged? Nope!
 

Gahn

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Hunter spear counts as 2h?
Then cut your evade by 50% for starters, then take in count ws etc -.-
 

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Think you just got unlucky dude... it's the bloody lucky people and their plot... grrrrr
Evaded quite abit vs a rr9 hunter yesterday, then I got lucky :x
 

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Gahn said:
Hunter spear counts as 2h?
Then cut your evade by 50% for starters, then take in count ws etc -.-

Two-handers doesn't cut evade chance in half. That's duel wield.

If the hunter manages to have the pet in the front arc of the opponent, that can help cut the evade in half, but not using two-hander itself.
 

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Azathrim said:
If the hunter manages to have the pet in the front arc of the opponent, that can help cut the evade in half

Afraid not
All the testing on pend pointed towards the pet not decreasing evade at all
Hunters will stick it in your rear arc so you evade it less
 

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had a ns evade me 6 times in a row yesterday. My WS with spear is 1720 and he went from 20% to 5% with my pet eating him while i swished away from 50% to dead. Its just random luck with evades
 

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Punishment said:
Roll a Runemaster and get rr5 ability imo ;)

You mean that supposed 90% evade rate that in reality against a light tank is closer to 5%? :)

And to Aiteal: I thought two attackers in the front arc would reduce the evade rate, but guess I am wrong. You happen to have a link? :)
 

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Azathrim said:
Two-handers doesn't cut evade chance in half. That's duel wield.

If the hunter manages to have the pet in the front arc of the opponent, that can help cut the evade in half, but not using two-hander itself.

U are wrong m8, DW cuts in half block chance -.-
I stand by my statement ^^
 

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dual wield lowers block and evade rate of enemies, two hander lowers parry rate of enemies
 

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J'adore le fromage !

Gahn said:
U are wrong ^^

Well in a sense he isnt :p

With 2h u half the amount ure opponent parries ... guess why ;s

And shield does nothing against duel weilders , but parry should help u deflect offhand and some mainhand attacks , also shield will only really block mainhand fumbles in reality , thats my 2 cents anyway :D
 

Azathrim

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Gahn said:
U are wrong ^^
No....

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Shadowblade TL report issue said:
A Midgard unique is the ability to switch between 1h, 2h and dual wielding. Two handed weapons do not have any benefit for shadowblades. Earlier feedback indicated this should be the case. Currently dual wielding halves the evade rates of opponents. 2h does not, thus making them ineffective in assassin vs assassin situations.

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Mythic Reply said:
2H offers a bonus to damage and halves your opponent's chance to Parry. Midgard 2H gives about the same benefit as Albion or Hibernia, and in addition to that, it's available to all Midgard players in the same spec as their 1H line. There are no plans at this time to revisit this dynamic.
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Kinag said:
There's no class in this game that hits the 50% evade on all classes in this game, it all comes down to your stats, your evade skill and the opponents weaponskill.
valkyrie does
 

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Azathrim

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Gahn said:
While in Spearo mode assassins evade me well less than in 1 h mode, also i don't see (for example) Kagato having any problems parrying me in Spearo mode.
That said, if Mythic says so :p

One thing is the percieved experience you remember while playing a toon, being busy getting styles off, positioning, etc.
I could imagine that you are 50spear, 42 shield, rest weapon? In that case your WS while using a spear will be alot higher than when using sword'n'board. Thus yeah, you probably will land hits relatively more often than while using a shield. Remember, sword'n'board doesn't cut evade in half either. Just like when you use your spear.

Another is the data given by a controlled test.

That said, I don't know if these things actually have been tested recently (within the last year or so). It could be interesting to see a remake of the tests, just to ensure the "melee triad" is still in place:

Duel wield cuts evade in half.
Duel wield cuts shield in half.
Two-hand cuts parry in half.
 

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i also heard along time ago that using two-handed will increase your own parry chanse, but i dont know if thats correct
 

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