English hospitals are a complete joke

[BloodOmen]

are you living in England now, do you pay taxes, if so good, there is a complaint's process in place for this type of thing, and there are quite a few hospitals in England and to slag them all off in one fell swoop isn't really good munkey is it.


its like saying all cars are crap just because the one that you bought only gave you 15 miles per gallon.

we were discussing getting a second opinion/examination to see how much damage (if at all) the doctor has done to her knee.

 

[Ormorof]

english hospitals are a joke! i had extreme pain in the left side of my chest, was admitted for 12 hours, then they turned around to me and said "well the pain seems to have decreased somewhat, we arent really sure what it is you have, but errrrr, here have some ibuprofen if it gets worse come back!"

12 hours of lying around in pain with no food, no water, nothing, then some ibuprofen and told to come back if it gets worse! bloody ridiculous

 

[Aoami]

Be glad you're not American and have to pay for it! Get an auwie? Go get it fixed, get some pills and don't pay a dime..

If i was PM first thing i'd do is get rid of the NHS and put in a system like the US has. People pay lots of tax to keep the NHS running and the standard of it is poor, and people moan constantly. It's a vicious circle.

 

[BloodOmen]

If you both couldn't tell that i was being sarcastic i suggest you don't reproduce.

You truely are a worthless piece of trash, as is the person that raised you that way.


done with this thread and sick of toff arseholes that all band together when they're shot fuckign down.

 

[Azurus]

And the sarcasm part I agree, its very easy for someone whos retarded to miss such things.

Fixed that for ya.

cya

 

[Shagrat]

ok I see this thread needs a medical expert, and everyone knows Quincy is king.

Azurus and Bugz, shoo. your just aggravating the situation.

I'd definitely get a 2nd opinion on this one, and sooner rather than later, a lot of weight gets pushed through your knee as your moving about and if theres someone out of kilter in there its gonna get seriously fucked if you leave it.

 

[tris-]

12 hours of lying around in pain with no food, no water, nothing, then some ibuprofen and told to come back if it gets worse! bloody ridiculous

youre still alive right?
if nothing needs doing they wont waste more time on it. there is people with real problems who need treating.

i had a migraine for about 3 months and still have pains now and again from the same incident. though when i went to the doctors i got refered to hospital in the same appointment. i just had to drive my self donw there.

then i ended up in there for nearly 2 nights and had the full array of tests. with follow up checks some month after. just a case of trying things, this pill or that pill. aslong as youre not going to die then it isnt serious.

 

[Huntingtons]

you need to learn how to edit BO. or is that too challenging?



prick.

 

[BloodOmen]

ok I see this thread needs a medical expert, and everyone knows Quincy is king.

Azurus and Bugz, shoo. your just aggravating the situation.

I'd definitely get a 2nd opinion on this one, and sooner rather than later, a lot of weight gets pushed through your knee as your moving about and if theres someone out of kilter in there its gonna get seriously fucked if you leave it.

Thank you shagrat, you're the only person thats actually looked at the thread and given friendly advice rather than being a sarcastic little prat or simply jumping on the troll band wagon.

I said I wouldn't reply to the thread again due to trolls completely ruining it however I felt your answer deserved a reply.

Repped.

 

[Bugz]

BO in commenting how much you dislike trolls all you are really doing is inviting more!

Think about it! lol

 

[kiliarien]

So, my wife went for a knee opperation yesterday (quite standard not hard apparently) basicly she was meant to get a large chunk of bone which had broke lose removed from her knee.. then surgeon was then meant to drill the cartlidge to prompt it to grow back faster (shes had the same opperation twice before in belgium)

Anyway! the surgeon finishes the opperation and says to her "I only removed the bone" gave no clear reason why he didn't finish it properly...

THEN she had to see a physio so he could assess how she moved around etc (This part was the biggest joke) the physio said she could move around perfectly without help and even put full weight onto her leg :l.

So we get home and she starts complaining of pain when she tries to walk with the leg she'd just had a knee opperation on (by instruction of the physio) found out not only can she not walk but she thinks its been made worse by putting weight onto it (once again by instruction of the physio)


English hospitals truely are a fucking farce.

Hey BO & Elisabeth,

It's fair to say that the NHS system is a maze of paperwork and medical specialists not talking to each other, however if you are firm and you keep pushing you WILL get what you want, and the answers that you want. The British public is used to people just accepting what is said and being farmed off somewhere else, so your best course of action is to continue to ask questions in a deliberate and honest manner (as it sounds like you have been doing) and persist.

Too many medical staff in Britain are distracted by their endless amount of paperwork they have to do and forget to talk in more detail to the patient (I am not blaiming them - they have bloody hard jobs and I salute them, on this front I think it's harsh saying the whole system is a farce, but I see where you are coming from). As I said, keep asking and hassling, you WILL get what you need in the end.

I'm standing up for the NHS here - I know a lot of people who work in the organisation and they genuinely care. It might seem like crap but it's actually one of the finest medical systems in the world. I for one feel lucky that I'll get looked after (and I've been to the hospital 7 times in 3 months for varying reasons, including births, deaths & operations).

Hope you get what you need Elisabeth

 

[Chronictank]

I sympathise with your situation but saying "English Hospitals are a joke" is ridiculous, they do the best with what they have and are by no means "shit"
i got rather severly injured snowboarding , everything was sterling all the way through (considering it was on the NHS).
I had to get my injury rebandaged a few times as it started bleeding again and they fixed it pretty much as soon as i arrived (once at 5am, i woke up and my pillow was drenched with blood) provided i phoned ahead so they knew i was coming

The system is flawed, and beurocracy where the government has tried to fix something they are clueless about by interfering has made things worse but it has not (yet) got to the point where you can say the health service in general is bad


As it was said in the opening post, if you genuinley aren't happy with it and thing it is counter-productive buy some health insurance and go private

 

[Ormorof]

youre still alive right?
if nothing needs doing they wont waste more time on it. there is people with real problems who need treating.

i had a migraine for about 3 months and still have pains now and again from the same incident. though when i went to the doctors i got refered to hospital in the same appointment. i just had to drive my self donw there.

then i ended up in there for nearly 2 nights and had the full array of tests. with follow up checks some month after. just a case of trying things, this pill or that pill. aslong as youre not going to die then it isnt serious.

yeah but i then had to waste time going into hospital again and going through the whole same procedure before being diagnosed finally with pericarditis and having some fluid removed from my chest thus wasting another 12 hours of NHS time and money (not to mention a nice ambulance ride there )

 

[tris-]

maybe on the first instance they couldnt find anything to indicate pericarditis?

sure theyre doctors, and clever and all that. but if something isnt present then they cant possibly know about it.

 

[Zede]

If i was PM first thing i'd do is get rid of the NHS and put in a system like the US has. People pay lots of tax to keep the NHS running and the standard of it is poor, and people moan constantly. It's a vicious circle.

See, Sarcasm at its finest

 

[old.Tohtori]

Haven't read through the plethera of responses;

Maybe it's supposed to hurt? As in, just had surgery, knee still sore, walking helps healing(as by physio)?

Different problem with my mum, but her walking hurt too but the walking helped the healing.

Ofcourse not run a marathon of anything, but still.

 

[Elisabeth]

Well I'm sorted for now, I got the crutches I asked for as they saw now that they wouldn't get me on my feet without them. I was trying to get around in the house in positions to grab radiators etc for support. My back started hurting coz of that and my foot was really swollen.

I've been through the recovery more then once before and for me this is the best way. Keep in mind that my right knee has the same condition and overusing it coz of the surgery on the left knee is only for my bad. They might do the revalidation different, but the patient (me in this case) has to feel comfortable also.

 

[CorNokZ]

Become a danish citizen.. Our hospitals are ace! We pay a high tax, but it's totally worth it! I've been hospitalized 12 times, 3 OPs, over the last 2 years, and all I have to do is call and tell them to make my bed if my stomaches fucks up again!

Never been treated bad and I've always been taken very serious

 

[Tilda]

Let me get this straight, you didn't witness the operation. You have no idea how to perform the operation - bar the fact that you think the surgeon is supposed to drill her cartillage. You have no idea whether or not its supposed to be painful to walk on for a bit. And your wife thinks she cant walk on it?

Newsflash, you're not a dr, nor is your wife, nor are neither of you physios.
I cant comment on the Op because I dont know what was supposed to happen but operations do hurt, the reason you're supposed to walk on things as soon as possible despite the pain is to stop yourself from wasting muscle mass and stiffening up.

I fail to see how your wifes and your layman opinions about the correct medical technique of treating osteochrondritis is reason for a thread making a fool of yourself and slating all hospitals in the UK.

 

[Tiani]

Dont worry about these tards BO, they are well known for being pedantic pieces of shit who just wanna crap over anyone posting anything they either dont agree with or have no anwer for. Especially the second poster. Well known twat

and lol at the dont reproduce comment ? least he gets the chance which is probably more than you will ever get in your entire life

 

[soze]

I think it would be funny to run the american style of Health Care over here for a month or two when people started getting left at the side of the road having a heart attack because the insurance was not valid i bet people would be much happier with our health care system.

 

[Chronictank]

I think it would be funny to run the american style of Health Care over here for a month or two when people started getting left at the side of the road having a heart attack because the insurance was not valid i bet people would be much happier with our health care system.

idd, it's laughable people in this country dont realise how well off they really are

@Tiani, this is a discussion forum and he opened with a discussion point
If he wanted a sympathy thread he shouldnt have opened with a insult to anyone in the medical proffesion which, quite rightly, he was burned for.
He then pulls the "are you a expert card" among other insults when he is going against proffesional medical advice himself, while i am sure he is not in a right state of mind it doesn't take a genius to work out how that would have ended (which to be quite frank should have been expected as he is somewhat of a "vocal" member of the community himself)

If you dont like discussions or people pointing out the folly in false statements i suggest you read this instead:
The Sun | The Best for News, Sport, Showbiz, Celebrities & TV | The Sun| The Sun

Pesonally i kind of feel sorry for Elizabeth being dragged through this as she is just a innocent party in this mess

 

[Imgormiel]

Just like you made a cock of yourself in the Police thread?

Double standards :d

Police have cocks? Damned bitches! Just when we thought equality was just around the corner ;p

 

[Amanita]

I think that a lot of you guys took what was an angry rant post in the wrong spirit tbh.

 

[Tiani]

idd, it's laughable people in this country dont realise how well off they really are

@Tiani, this is a discussion forum and he opened with a discussion point
If he wanted a sympathy thread he shouldnt have opened with a insult to anyone in the medical proffesion which, quite rightly, he was burned for.
He then pulls the "are you a expert card" among other insults when he is going against proffesional medical advice himself, while i am sure he is not in a right state of mind it doesn't take a genius to work out how that would have ended (which to be quite frank should have been expected as he is somewhat of a "vocal" member of the community himself)

If you dont like discussions or people pointing out the folly in false statements i suggest you read this instead:
The Sun | The Best for News, Sport, Showbiz, Celebrities & TV | The Sun| The Sun

Pesonally i kind of feel sorry for Elizabeth being dragged through this as she is just a innocent party in this mess

I suggest you re read the second post in this thread, within the first few letters of the post the arrogant tard is telling the guy to stfu and why ? for no real reason other than he is a c*nt. This isnt discussion, this is a guy (and always seems to be THE same guy) shitting all over people for no reason.

and we all know the hospital/medical practices in this country are a joke, and lol at the people talking about the USA system. I would rather pay directly for treatment if it meant I got a better level of care, as it is now I get a load of shit from half arsed incompetent morons and I am effectively still paying for it through taxes, a lot of my family have had issued with medical cock ups, My mom also has problems with her knee's had an operation on both.

She was told it would vastly improve her situation and it has done nothing other than put her out of work for a few weeks. The pain stopped for about a week and came back worse. I wont even go into my own problems, that resulted in surgery for myself in February, including 8 weeks of recovery and all the time I didnt even need the f*cking operation, so waste of time and the worry it put on me. GG UK Healthcare.

Case closed.

 

[Chronictank]

I suggest you re read the second post in this thread, within the first few letters of the post the arrogant tard is telling the guy to stfu and why ? for no real reason other than he is a c*nt. This isnt discussion, this is a guy (and always seems to be THE same guy) shitting all over people for no reason.

I suggest you read the thread as the second post was done in a sarcastic manner, explained later

If you both couldn't tell that i was being sarcastic i suggest you don't reproduce.

Ableit in a very crude manner

and we all know the hospital/medical practices in this country are a joke, and lol at the people talking about the USA system. I would rather pay directly for treatment if it meant I got a better level of care, as it is now I get a load of shit from half arsed incompetent morons and I am effectively still paying for it through taxes, a lot of my family have had issued with medical cock ups, My mom also has problems with her knee's had an operation on both.

There is that functionality in the UK, its called Private Health Care
If you really hated it that much you would have been less "incompetant" and switched, if you say its too expensive then you have no leg to stand on as in the US you would not get treated at all because you cant afford it

She was told it would vastly improve her situation and it has done nothing other than put her out of work for a few weeks. The pain stopped for about a week and came back worse.
I wont even go into my own problems, that resulted in surgery for myself in February, including 8 weeks of recovery and all the time I didnt even need the f*cking operation, so waste of time and the worry it put on me. .

I wont comment on any of this, as your specific case is of no reflection to UK Healthcare as a whole. For every negative example you can produce i could pull up a posotive one

If you want US style medicine, go private

Case closed

 

[Tiani]

I suggest you read the thread as the second post was done in a sarcastic manner, explained later

Ableit in a very crude manner


There is that functionality in the UK, its called Private Health Care
If you really hated it that much you would have been less "incompetant" and switched, if you say its too expensive then you have no leg to stand on as in the US you would not get treated at all because you cant afford it


I wont comment on any of this, as your specific case is of no reflection to UK Healthcare as a whole. For every negative example you can produce i could pull up a posotive one

If you want US style medicine, go private

So you expect people to detect sarcasm (that is about as obvious as black on black) via a couple of words on a forum and get flamed because they have a go back.

That guy, in nearly every thread I read is shitting on someone, you can call it sarcasm I call it being a wanker. Feel free to stick up for him though.

I duno how you can defend such blatent disregard for peoples feelings and opinions but whatever. This forum will never change, populated by the scrapings from the bottom of the barrel of society, all congregated in one forum!

 

[Chronictank]

So you expect people to detect sarcasm (that is about as obvious as black on black) via a couple of words on a forum and get flamed because they have a go back.

That guy, in nearly every thread I read is shitting on someone, you can call it sarcasm I call it being a wanker. Feel free to stick up for him though.

I am not sticking up for him at all as i thought he was being a tit at the time,
but this is not at the time he SAID it was in sarcasm you have posted AFTER the event so you also know he said it in jest
You then had the gaul to tell me to read the the thread when you very obviouly didnt read it properly yourself
For you it is perfectly clear because it was stated in green and white

I duno how you can defend such blatent disregard for peoples feelings and opinions but whatever. This forum will never change, populated by the scrapings from the bottom of the barrel of society, all congregated in one forum!

Blood is as much as a troll as the rest of them, myself included on occasion
If it was someone else you may well have a valid point and i may even agree with you but we are not talking about someone else, we are talking about this particular case

This thread continued as he started it, intentionally or otherwise
If he wanted sympathy/advice insulting people in the opening is most definitely not the way to go, perfect example is when Sparx (i think) lost someone close to him and wanted to express himself somewhere the thread was nothing like this one because he obviously wanted smypathy and got it

As for your continual insults of this community,
That is one thing i never have understood, if someone thinks people here are so bad why do they stay?
The answer; while some people here are rather extreme to say the least on the while they are a reasonable bunch of people

 

[pikeh]

I duno how you can defend such blatent disregard for peoples feelings and opinions but whatever. This forum will never change, populated by the scrapings from the bottom of the barrel of society, all congregated in one forum!

Maybe if you didn't post shit like this in every single post you make, people would respect you a bit more.

Every post you've made has been chock full of insults and degrading comments to every member on these boards. If they disagreed with a post you made, so fucking what? If you don't like it just go.

 

[Tiani]

He wasnt being sarcastic, he was being a prick and covered it up with the old 'It was sarcasm!' just like the old 'Im only joking!' nugget.

Maybe if you didn't post shit like this in every single post you make, people would respect you a bit more.

Every post you've made has been chock full of insults and degrading comments to every member on these boards. If they disagreed with a post you made, so fucking what? If you don't like it just go.

I think you will find that the first few posts I made were completely legitimate, fine respectful as they should be.

Only when people started behaving like arseholes towards me (for no reason) did I start insulting them, or playing them at their own game you choose.