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lofff
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sorry :/ :|
/em shots head
/em shots head
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Solarius
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forgiven, loff. 
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Ryo
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Lofff: You cannot release a severed pet, the pet control box disappears when the ment RA is used.
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old.chesnor
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any menta NOT going for sever the tether on Camlann = crazy
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StormriderX
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Chanters arent the only people to use pets you know Saw some people getting drowned in air pets from different directions by 3 air theurgys. Damn they were lethal - poor guys couldnt do anything.
Saw some people getting drowned in air pets from different directions by 3 air theurgys. Damn they were lethal - poor guys couldnt do anything.
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Khalen
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LOL you can try to run away from a warden but you wouldn't last long I personally kill any enchanter who dares to attack me. Goes as well for any other class.
Easy tip for tanks: Hit pet once and it will start meleeing instead of snaring you then persue the caster and if yah got speed or end chant he's dead. I've tried this and it works damn well either the enchanter runs out of end or he runs out of power at that time he's dead meat. And anything that's higher then you usually wins so don't bother and blaming yourself... It's the surprise element that counts and if you play it well you win.
Those people who play enchanters are the weak players, they can't play the game on hard mode (the solo enchanters I mean the ones for guilds have a purpose). Those are the players who love to use cheats or start with the easy mode and saying they've played the game till the end. I have special high regards for people who play tanks those are the people who have the hardest time.
Furthermore there is the lame zone spawn camping. Don't forget you can teleport to a lot of places with the medaillon master...
I personally kill any enchanter who dares to attack me. Goes as well for any other class.Easy tip for tanks: Hit pet once and it will start meleeing instead of snaring you then persue the caster and if yah got speed or end chant he's dead. I've tried this and it works damn well either the enchanter runs out of end or he runs out of power at that time he's dead meat. And anything that's higher then you usually wins so don't bother and blaming yourself... It's the surprise element that counts and if you play it well you win.
Those people who play enchanters are the weak players, they can't play the game on hard mode (the solo enchanters I mean the ones for guilds have a purpose). Those are the players who love to use cheats or start with the easy mode and saying they've played the game till the end. I have special high regards for people who play tanks those are the people who have the hardest time.
Furthermore there is the lame zone spawn camping. Don't forget you can teleport to a lot of places with the medaillon master...
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old.Odysseus
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I accept the challenge.
Prepare to eat dust bubblyboy.
You are almost correct, some of us take on redcon ppl for sports (and purple from time to time).
Only people below orange I consider a challenge are other chanters and skalds (which should also be nerfed imho).
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Jiggs
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bit disapointed with this zealot :/
really pisses me of that i dont PK: i just made the chanter for pbaoe leveling purpose and yet i get ganked cos of my class LOL
i understand fully why they dont bother to wait if the chanter attacks tho lol they are evil when u want to kill someone
just a bit funny that when i cast a run buff and everyone starts shiting themseleves and starts nuking/running
really pisses me of that i dont PK: i just made the chanter for pbaoe leveling purpose and yet i get ganked cos of my class LOL
i understand fully why they dont bother to wait if the chanter attacks tho lol they are evil when u want to kill someone
just a bit funny that when i cast a run buff and everyone starts shiting themseleves and starts nuking/running
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K0nah
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rofl yeh i know that feeling
my chanter is pure evul tho so.. the embodiment of many of the complaints here. yes i shoot first and ask questions later. yes i will take on any red/orange/yellow/blue/green i see except skalds/champs, unless i have the element of surprise and/or a good position and then i will have a go at any class, even red con chanters, purples for sport. trouble with purples is u never know quite how deep that purple is till u see how much dmg the pet is doing if its ~5% per nuke theres a fair chance.
class is broke for sure, but damn fun to play and lots of variety. really dont see how they can nerf it without it being a chanter anymore...
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old.Odysseus
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I dont see that as a problem, Mythic sure didnt care about it when demolishing smiters and snipers.
But ofc, Mythic aint playing albion anyhow.
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recontour
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Smiters and snipers are still awesome... they needed that nerf.. of cause i hurt from it aswell on my Cleric.. but it was overpowered.. and yeah i agree enchanters do need a nerf.
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old.Odysseus
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aha .... and just how many snipers do you find on Excalibur that are solo and not buffed?
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recontour
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First off i dont play carebear servers anymore and havnt done it for along time... Snipers can solo easy i have a hunter on mordred.. and hunters are gonna be ubar in couple of patches.. if u spec right and are a good player.. But fuk solo.. a Cleric dont solo either, neither does a bard no a whatever... many classes not good at making exp solo, but are great in pvp. I wouldnt like to solo a assasin up in exp either but his good in pvp no doubt!
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saltymcpepper
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how many people do you find that are solo and unbuffed?
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old.Odysseus
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My point was the following :
The sniper was taken out of the game, just like the smiter - that was done by Mythic without regard to the players who had a char that can no longer do what is was made for.
Hence the conclusion that whether or not a chanter is a chanter after a given nerf is irrelevant.
Was a very simple point really.
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this is a futile discussion. if you are convinced sniper is a good class to play, by all means roll one.
The sniper was taken out of the game, just like the smiter - that was done by Mythic without regard to the players who had a char that can no longer do what is was made for.
Hence the conclusion that whether or not a chanter is a chanter after a given nerf is irrelevant.
Was a very simple point really.
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this is a futile discussion. if you are convinced sniper is a good class to play, by all means roll one.
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dippy
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the only thing they need to fix about chanters is the bug that makes the companions ignore the line of sight rule
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K0nah
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snipers are a good class to play: on pvp. is his point i think.
tons of solo mages to feed off and u can be anywhere, not within 100m radius of a milegate/tower which is swarming with assasins as is the route to said location. yes assasins kill archers, they kill every other class too so...?
my main on pvp is a ranger, speccing as a shadowbm with a bow, personal buffbot, speedspell for fast getaways or chases. uber? no. fun? definately.
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K0nah
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the ability to debuff your own damage type by 50% is a tad broken imo. i'm not there yet, but i'm looking forward to it, heh.
i would say the snare on the pet is broken too and stun owns any other cc in the game fullstop.
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lofff
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yup... musta b
Sum easy cunt from exca which did nevah meet there (not a single DM from her sorry ass) claims pwning my gimped chimp in exca with her uber lvl50 scout named S3cr3et SpA1 or some thing.. Really its sad to find arses from exca pming u in camlann (my big bad chosing same nickname) just cos sumhow they know u?
ps: no buffed scouts have ever pwned me champ
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old.Odysseus
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Sure sniping is still possible at PvP, but thats a totally different game. On ordinary servers (and yes I did specifically ask how many there were on Excalibur) sniping is dead. Stone cold dead. Eleasias is grouping, aussie is buffed and duoing or grouping, kinad is grouping, I am grouping etc etc.
The few that are not grouping are soloing alongside the main army. (Commonly know as leeching the zerg).
A prioritized list:
a) No LOS pets
b) Pet adds 50% to chanters DPS by powerful nuking
c) Pet snares
d) Baseline stun
e) Can debuff own damage
f) 2.5 sec pbaoe
Take out 1-2 on that list and you have something that is equal to most other casters.
She put me on ignore because I would not let her excact revenge over my entire group - I was to stand passively aside and let her kill. Now (she is purp 2 me) she kills me on sight
The few that are not grouping are soloing alongside the main army. (Commonly know as leeching the zerg).
This is an ability shared by runies and chanters to debuff their baseline nukes. Those are less damaging than specline and cost a ton of power. This is not the main reason chanters are overpowered.
A prioritized list:
a) No LOS pets
b) Pet adds 50% to chanters DPS by powerful nuking
c) Pet snares
d) Baseline stun
e) Can debuff own damage
f) 2.5 sec pbaoe
Take out 1-2 on that list and you have something that is equal to most other casters.
You having trouble with her too? Whacko I tell you, whacko.
She put me on ignore because I would not let her excact revenge over my entire group - I was to stand passively aside and let her kill. Now (she is purp 2 me) she kills me on sight
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no LOS is probably their main problem, especially if you use it with care
no matter where you go, once the pet starts nuking you can't hide anywhere. ever.
I don't know about nerfs tho, as they're mostly this insanely powerfull on PvP, where even archers fare rather good...
no matter where you go, once the pet starts nuking you can't hide anywhere. ever.
I don't know about nerfs tho, as they're mostly this insanely powerfull on PvP, where even archers fare rather good...
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old.Lianuchta
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They should adjust them on the PvP servers. On the regular servers they are not all that great, but in this soloing, zone camping kind of environment they are. A yellow con chanter should not be able to nuke me (fully self buffed Warden 850HPs, 12% heat, 16% Energy) to death within his stun time (especially as at 35 they're stun is 6s max).
My solutions are:
Halve pet spell damage output.
Allow root to be resisted
LOS obviously but that goes for the reg servers too
Move debuff to the enchantment line. If they are going to debuff their own dmg type they shouldn't get the second best PBAE too...
My solutions are:
Halve pet spell damage output.
Allow root to be resisted
LOS obviously but that goes for the reg servers too
Move debuff to the enchantment line. If they are going to debuff their own dmg type they shouldn't get the second best PBAE too...
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Yes i too find it totally ridiculous that i can be totally wiped out by a class 15 levels lower than me yet i wouldnt be able to kill someone 2 or 3 lvls of any class. I dont attack grey as You dont gain anything by killing someone grey con and lets face it youd be there all day with the chanters, however 2 secs later i get nuked into oblivion by the 4-5 grey chanters parked away out of sight using the LOS bug. And how a pet that low can actually land a stun is totally beyond me when my mezz gets resisted mostly on reds. Mythic / Goa are totally blind if they cant see the problems in the chanter class. I have yet to be killed by any other lower con character other than a chanter however i get ganked regualarly by these wankers hiding in buildings. Yes before anyone says owned yep i have been many times but it doesnt take any skill to park a caster pet and nuke through walls.
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lakih
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The LoS bug isnt just for enchanters, all petclasses have this bug, its just that enchanter pets cast spells so you feel it so much more...
But i agree, chanters is a tad bit over the top... as Lianuchta was saying:
But i agree, chanters is a tad bit over the top... as Lianuchta was saying:
- Move debuffs to Enchantment line.
- Fix LoS for ALL petclasses (whats more scary is that animist pets also have this bug).
- Make the pet interuptable and his special effects resistable.
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Belsameth
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the pet can land a stun because all level based to-hit modifiers are removed from PvP
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Skald Solution
Insta Mezz Pet, kill enchanter = pwned
Insta Mezz Pet, kill enchanter = pwned
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old.Odysseus
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its a snare
Well if you are yellowcon, expect to be stunned and killed anyway. And should you manage to survive the 3-4 nukes you will have received when you reach me, expect to be qc pbaoe'd at least once.
I eat any yellowcon in a matter of seconds (when I dont fuck up).
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Arnor
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remove nukes from pet and keel runspeed. there, they are still "chanters" (yeah right, as if they ever were) and hey, they arent "that" uber anymore.
The runspeed+snarenukepet is nasty combo
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old.Odysseus
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Mythic has time and again shown how they nerf:
FULL nerfbat. Nothing step-wise. Rather overnerf and fix later.
Look at the latest nerf to assassins; could they not have done IP in one patch, investigated, done evade in another?
The only class that has received stepwise nerfs are the archers, which also got a treatment of the overnerf.
Hence the following suggestion;
Fix LOS, as this is THE no. 1 thing enabling chanters to be uber eventhough skilless.
Then, next patch, tone down the pet-snare etc etc.
Dont kill the class, tweak it bit by bit till it is done.
FULL nerfbat. Nothing step-wise. Rather overnerf and fix later.
Look at the latest nerf to assassins; could they not have done IP in one patch, investigated, done evade in another?
The only class that has received stepwise nerfs are the archers, which also got a treatment of the overnerf.
Hence the following suggestion;
Fix LOS, as this is THE no. 1 thing enabling chanters to be uber eventhough skilless.
Then, next patch, tone down the pet-snare etc etc.
Dont kill the class, tweak it bit by bit till it is done.
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lofff
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Speed does not kick in f pet is in combat
Anyway yes, snare component is way too uber. And ur a tr00ll waaaaaaaay too ugly