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old.Jas
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OMG! Two people! High percentages there I am sure
Time to start shitting yourselves people
Time to start shitting yourselves people
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Embattle
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I like the way one gets 1 year and the other got 2 1/2 and then the bottom tops it off:
Organised crime sometimes but terrorism....lol.
Organised crime sometimes but terrorism....lol.
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old.Jas
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What a joke
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echo
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That's classic 
Terrorism from copied PS games, my arse
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Terrorism from copied PS games, my arse
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old.Munkie
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There is a definite connection between drugs and pirated games in Hong Kong.
Triads are into everything.
Triads are into everything.
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Furr
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Or the person copies a game to get a bit a kibble for the saturday night at the pub
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echo
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why is there a Munkey and a Munkie? 
muchos confusion
muchos confusion
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Ono
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Originally posted by snoopy
why is there a Munkey and a Munkie?
To top things off - Munkey is an #barrysworld IRC regular and Munkie is a BW CS regular!!
Got me confused lots.
Back to the subject:
I was in MVC today (who are reasonably cheap compared to some High St stores) and they were selling PS2 games for £40!!
How can publishers justify these prices?! Grapevine suggests that X-Box software will be £50 a pot! We are talking CD-Roms here NOT more expensive Rom Carts Nintendo used.
No wonder piracy is on the up. 10p per blank CDR. Go figure.
Yes, yes. Pirates who make money are bad, but it goes back to the age old argument that the consumer has in that if they (the publishers) released games at a more affordable price-point piracy would be diminished.
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old.Kurt_Angle
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They only ever target the sellers.
Or in more recent times, some of the cracking groups.
If the groups alone could be crushed, then i predict the warez scene would drop about 70 odd percent. The whole scene revolves around the groups.
The reason the scene is so massive these days is because the way copyrighted stuff gets shuffled out, it's so well organised.
It's mainly the groups that organise this, they don't just crack stuff, but run the whole show.
Virtualy any 2bit idiot can just pop there box on these days hook up online and be downloading the latest films and games within the hour.
It's pointless targeting the lower echelons of the scene, eg the 'sellers' www. boards, fire sharing programes, irc, usenet ect.. as these are run and organised by people that come or go, when one drops another one comes out.
Or in more recent times, some of the cracking groups.
If the groups alone could be crushed, then i predict the warez scene would drop about 70 odd percent. The whole scene revolves around the groups.
The reason the scene is so massive these days is because the way copyrighted stuff gets shuffled out, it's so well organised.
It's mainly the groups that organise this, they don't just crack stuff, but run the whole show.
Virtualy any 2bit idiot can just pop there box on these days hook up online and be downloading the latest films and games within the hour.
It's pointless targeting the lower echelons of the scene, eg the 'sellers' www. boards, fire sharing programes, irc, usenet ect.. as these are run and organised by people that come or go, when one drops another one comes out.
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Furr
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Hell the new problem for these people now is the peer 2 peer programs, kazza, limewire etc, especially with broadband on the rise, its not hard to download a few ISO images to burn onto a CD-R just select about 3 before bed and when you wake up presto... games, apps etc
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old.Kurt_Angle
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Peer to peer is nothing.
The only thing ever of note in that area was napster.
Reasons being the small file sizes and the general acceptance of what was actualy pirate music, and it's total ease of use.
Till everybody gets 2-4 mbit conections, the p2p scene is nothing more than a drop in the ocean.
Imho there all rubish anyway, okish for the odd song, but for anything else.... pff
The only thing ever of note in that area was napster.
Reasons being the small file sizes and the general acceptance of what was actualy pirate music, and it's total ease of use.
Till everybody gets 2-4 mbit conections, the p2p scene is nothing more than a drop in the ocean.
Imho there all rubish anyway, okish for the odd song, but for anything else.... pff
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old.Kez
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p2p is something. Its the way the Everyday Joe is getting his hands on warez et al, because Everyday Joe doesn't have access to the groups as such, and one has to be vaguely in the know to find things without trawling through masses of http mazes. Ho hum.
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yes p2p is something....although it obviously isnt as fast as the ftp's the groups and 'people in the know' use, but where an ftp allows 10, 20 or how ever many people on at a time, the p2p servers allow thousands, and the copyrighted material spreads like wildfire to every Average Joe User
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old.Jas
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I disagree - I think you think that because Napster was the only one to get any press attention
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Summo
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Um... I seem to remember Napster being shite. Am I wrong?
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old.Kez
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Napster was first generation, we're now in the second or third generation of file sharing (its become a blended line) and the improvements have been unequivical. Every time one file share program is restrained by some Government Order another one pops up to throw its own ideas into the bundle. Its quite nice really.
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Summo
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Yes. I like it.
(I'm also bored, so please excuse posts like this)
(I'm also bored, so please excuse posts like this)
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old.Jas
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I think you are - it was the dogs danglies when it came out
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old.Kez
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It was pretty much the only option at the time too, as I recall. Which kind of nulls the 'good/bad' scenario.
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old.Jas
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Well... I meant that it was good compared to FTPs, WWW, or IRC
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Napster was very good...now its shit
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Furr
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i use kazza now, amazingly easy to download entire albums just by typing in album name.
not that i do it of course
not that i do it of course
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Will
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*cough*Morpheus*cough*New Chemical Brothers*cough*not released*cough*
That's a bad cold I have there
That's a bad cold I have there
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Furr
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hmmmmmmmm. you should try some simple linctus for that cough or bennilin.
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Summo
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Kazaa and Morpheus are the same thing with different graphics. Both are luberly
/me adds to growing collection of REM live tracks
/me adds to growing collection of REM live tracks
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Oh yea, i ran my virus checker after reading this on the BTopenworld newsgroup found the trojan in the article,
http://www.theregister.co.uk/content/4/23532.html
Popular file-sharing software from Grokster and the Limewire Gnutella Client
contain the W32.DlDer Trojan, Symantec revealed last week.
According to several Reg readers, the KaZaA utility also contains the same
infection.
The Trojan here is a spyware application masquerading as a lottery game
called ClickTilUWin. When installing the Grokster or Limewire software, and
some versions of KaZaA, the user is given an option to enable the
ClickTilUWin feature. Regardless of whether one accepts or declines, the
Trojan is installed.
Grokster has offered an explanation of this embarrassing oversight on its
Web site:
"Some of you may be wondering why this Trojan was in our installer at all,"
the company speculates wisely.
"We sometimes bundle advertiser applications with our installer in order to
help pay for our costs here at Grokster. We are normally given an installer
from the advertiser which we run during the installation of Grokster. We
have no access to the source code of these third-party installers and so we
rely on what our advertisers say these programs do. To the best of our
knowledge, this particular advertiser simply placed a link to a free online
lottery on the desktop. We were never informed that it installed or was a
Trojan."
The company has released a utility which it says will remove the Trojan, and
promises to have a clean version of its software available in a matter of
days.
Those who prefer to see to their own Trojan removal need only search for a
hidden directory under their \Windows directory called \Explorer. Simply
delete the \Windows\Explorer directory, along with the companion file
Dlder.exe in the \Windows directory.
The Trojan is not destructive, but does phone home to the ClickTilUWin Web
site with user data which, presumably, is used for marketing purposes, or is
perhaps forwarded to RIAA headquarters to assemble a database of copyright
scofflaws.
We don't know which; but we do know better than to install software we know
nothing about. ®
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Regards,
A.
ps- cross posted to relevant groups and I won't get into an argument over
just how relevant they are so kiss my ass!
http://www.theregister.co.uk/content/4/23532.html
Popular file-sharing software from Grokster and the Limewire Gnutella Client
contain the W32.DlDer Trojan, Symantec revealed last week.
According to several Reg readers, the KaZaA utility also contains the same
infection.
The Trojan here is a spyware application masquerading as a lottery game
called ClickTilUWin. When installing the Grokster or Limewire software, and
some versions of KaZaA, the user is given an option to enable the
ClickTilUWin feature. Regardless of whether one accepts or declines, the
Trojan is installed.
Grokster has offered an explanation of this embarrassing oversight on its
Web site:
"Some of you may be wondering why this Trojan was in our installer at all,"
the company speculates wisely.
"We sometimes bundle advertiser applications with our installer in order to
help pay for our costs here at Grokster. We are normally given an installer
from the advertiser which we run during the installation of Grokster. We
have no access to the source code of these third-party installers and so we
rely on what our advertisers say these programs do. To the best of our
knowledge, this particular advertiser simply placed a link to a free online
lottery on the desktop. We were never informed that it installed or was a
Trojan."
The company has released a utility which it says will remove the Trojan, and
promises to have a clean version of its software available in a matter of
days.
Those who prefer to see to their own Trojan removal need only search for a
hidden directory under their \Windows directory called \Explorer. Simply
delete the \Windows\Explorer directory, along with the companion file
Dlder.exe in the \Windows directory.
The Trojan is not destructive, but does phone home to the ClickTilUWin Web
site with user data which, presumably, is used for marketing purposes, or is
perhaps forwarded to RIAA headquarters to assemble a database of copyright
scofflaws.
We don't know which; but we do know better than to install software we know
nothing about. ®
*********
Regards,
A.
ps- cross posted to relevant groups and I won't get into an argument over
just how relevant they are so kiss my ass!
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Embattle
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Know about it already, found it in my system got a little worried at first. Although to be honest it don't do much.
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Nibbler
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Embattle
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Lol