Eld's

[old.Charonel]

have to agree about bolt crits, even in pve (and when the server lvl's were low enough for me to use my eld in rvr i do remember this being the same against other realmers) i tend to crit every other fight with bolts, just roll a void eld and solo pve for a while and you'll see what i mean, and when i say crit i mean that i usually get the full extra 100% damage crit or thereabouts.

for some reason bolts crit FAR more than DD's ever seem to do, and i dont even have WA, the problem is getting the damn things to actually HIT, they keep getting blocked by all those invisible meelee fights that you just can't quite see happening all around the solo worrior you decided to blast

 

[Danya]

I crit loads in pve but hardly ever in rvr and when I do rvr crit italways for like +60. PvE crits tend to be more like 90%.

 

[Lessurl]

Originally posted by Qte Eth
yep void elds are soo gimped they have to use their base light nuke coz it does more damage then their spec nuke xD
sorry peeps dont say void is any good in rvr most fun is to read about that uber bolt crits-happens twice in void eld life but that story will be told to everyone to prove they arent useless
i have hit with my dd for 685+224 on 50 level target =)
to say about mana eld-i have to say its a nice spec with a big varety of spells and aoe str &con debuff sounds very fun=))
while its hard to compare this with mana ench coz he has less variety but has got uber pet speed and 50% heat debuff..

Actually most void elds still use the void dd's. It's just me (and maybe a few others i don't know about).
Even got asked if i was light just now when i grped with another voider to farm df bcos i was still on my rvr bar and was castin the baseline light dd.
I thought it was a good plan, make the most of my light spec points etc. And what has baseline got to do with anythin anyway. You so gimped you have to use the baseline af buffs from mana?

Oh yeah and just read your quote again. I'm usin it bcos it does more damage than my spec nuke? What spec nuke? Maybe i missed sumthin in my void mastery folder but all i see are my bolts, debuffs and aoe's Don't see a spec dd. Void dd come in baseline so i am merely exchanging one baseline spell for another. Also makes it easier for upclose fights as i can use a 100% focus light staff to reduce stun cost and not have to switch back before startin to nuke.
And that damage with crit you quote is not even at my cap w/o crit. With crit i can damage well over 1000.

 

[exc_hib_boo]

Originally posted by Danyan
I crit loads in pve but hardly ever in rvr and when I do rvr crit italways for like +60. PvE crits tend to be more like 90%.

In PvE a crit can be 1-99% of the dmg cap, in PvP it can only be 1-50%.

 

[<Harle>]

Originally posted by Lessurl


Also makes it easier for upclose fights as i can use a 100% focus light staff to reduce stun cost and not have to switch back before startin to nuke.

...always thought focus lvls on a staff would only affect mana-cost of spec-line spells... :-|

 

[Danya]

focus works for base and spec spells.

 

[Qte Eth]

saying spec nuke i meant void nuke ,not that it is in spec line,but in void line wich is line u speced in and u have always same damage in while in light u have different damage per nuke coz it doesnt reach 50 value
keep in mind ur bolt is 4 sec cast and 20 sec timer
while my dd is 2.8 and no timer =)
having void more then 50(ie 47+4) wont do smth with ur damage in rvr
wild arcana doesnt affects bolts
685 damamge eh, that sounds like my baseline bolt on a bad day!
lmao
all ur damage is good against mages who i can 3 shot always and u in most cases need at least 2 bolts -what takes almost same time to cast and after that u cant do any heavy damage for 20 seconds
not to mention albs have better damage bolts and i can tell u i am very rarely 2 shot by alb bolts -only if some bad crits happen,
while u arent good in killing anything but mage
about mana af buff-lol ,what can be more fun then using damage spell not from your high speced damage line(what u thought void is when u made an eld)
and i said void eld can one shoot mage (or 2) and telling about that the whole life
my first char was void eld who is 28 level
and there are left 5 !void elds on lancelot above 40 level from what i read on vnboards-prolly because void elds r0x
no offence peeps just pls dont try to make other believe how uber void elds and bolts are

 

[Lessurl]

<sigh> i'm not trying to make out how uber void elds are, seems you are trying to make out how uber light is tho.
I am merely trying to show that void is not as usless as everyone says. But everyone seems to be stuck with their own preconceptions so i give up. You will never believe me and it's your own loss. You are missing out on playing a class which can be just as fun, if not more so in some cases than other hibby mages.

 

[boni_ofdavoid]

Originally posted by Qte Eth
wild arcana doesnt affects bolts
685 damamge eh, that sounds like my baseline bolt on a bad day!
lmao

Ok, ok , wild power not arcana, <sigh>

685 damage, well you can have the maths:-

Void Abyss
max dmg before ra = 3 x 239 = 717

Shadowdoom
max dmg before ra = 3x209 = 627

So yeah, my baseline, not spec bolt could do 685 dmg without a single realm ability. Your spec dd could not )p

Now, dont get me wrong, Im not saying I own the world with my bolts just cause the damage on my baseline is comprable to your spec line, but I enjoy them, they are an option that I can use at range, and personally I would not swap them for my dds doing a bit more damage.

 

[Danya]

Well except shadowdoom takes 2.8s (base) to cast not 4 secs..

 

[boni_ofdavoid]

Originally posted by Danyan
Well except shadowdoom takes 2.8s (base) to cast not 4 secs..

Im not denying that all void cast times suck bady compared to other specs Im not going to argue with the fact that within dd range a light/whatever spec can do more damage over time than void.

I am saying that as a void mage I have a long range option that other specs dont have and that these bolts are feasable, do plenty of damage, more than a light dd for instance!

At the type of range I use my bolts, other mages simply have no damaging option, so ill take a 4sec cast time option as opposed to no option.

 

[cbh_skyrie]

I dunno what the..... ppl are talking about

I an eld, and I don't understand why people even consider calling my class a rp leecher.

Yesterday was a nice day for me. I singlehandedly killed 8 ppl in one battle. I usually get a few kills off before people realise i have to die I went up from 70k to 98k rp, killing at least 30 ppl alone :/

 

[CBH_Popov]

I currently do cap damage on 90% of enemy mages (987 damage) often enough to one shot them, highest I've ever got including a crit is about 1350.

Unfortunately Void is a one trick pony as the baseline spells have really bad damage and using spells from the other spec lines ( I too use the baseline light DD) give way too much variance to be effective.

Personally I'm ditching void at the first available oportunity and going mana (would have been light but the total lack of an AE spell seems too limiting)

P.S. Throwing around numbers at this time is a bit missleading as the extra 20% we are getting from relics is boosting even gimped spells into the realm of reasonable.

 

[Danya]

Light has better range than void - you can nearsight people.

 

[boni_ofdavoid]

Originally posted by Danyan
Light has better range than void - you can nearsight people.

Most void mages take light as a secondary spec for the nearsight, with 2x light you have all the nearsight youll ever need.

 

[old.Charonel]

that's quite true, in my oppinion light has allways been THE line to secondary spec if you havent taken it as primary, none of the others offer so much for so little points. my only problem is that as my primary spec, void simply doesnt offer enough, so i'm going mana, besides, that snare DD looks like FUN i know how bloody annoying it is getting snared, and the sheer annoyance factor of almost all the mana eld spells is just great

i'd personally stick with void if it actually did what it's supposed too, but in my mind it just doesnt, not anymore, it's a shame too because it used to be a fun spec.

 

[Qte Eth]

i am not telling how uber light ment is if u thought so
i am just giving easy compare to ur spells and spells available to other mages and other spec lines
and of course there are ppl who play good even void elds -that doesnt means void elds are good or better than any other mage spec hib has,that just means that skill in daoc matters and even worst speced mages in hands of good player can do evil job.
2boni i know what damage are bolts supposed to do -but i also know what damage they actually do with all resists,af,relic,timer
etc and that two nubers -cap and what u usually hit for -differ in BAD way

 

[Danya]

Well my eld will be light with mana secondary. And "ya boo sucks to you" to anyone that says it's not good.

 

[old.Charonel]

Originally posted by Danyan
Danyan - 24th Season LightGimp, Armiger et Dementis

hehe sorry, couldn't resist

 

[old.Akirai]

I'll trade for an eldritch

 

[Danya]

Originally posted by old.Charonel


hehe sorry, couldn't resist

Hush gimp, just because you swallowed pills of engimpening...