eeeeek the range on the shammy end is really short

[Pandemic]

good think i am gonna have to stay near the grp shammie anyway to guard him so i should be in range all the time

looks like i will spec away from pf though not happy with that ra

 

[spankya]

Now you know how the other realms feel mate... sucks ay? The amount of times I got someone shouting PLAY END FFS!! when I was on my bard, all due to them being out of range as they ran off.

Guess it makes it fairer now though

 

[Elthyr]

Makes it fairer in relation to the other realms, agreed. But with end range at 1000, and shaman heal range at 2000, a shaman will HAVE to be at 1000 to make sure end remains, which in essence cuts their heal range in half

 

[Archeon]

Look on the bright side, atleast when the Shaman's mezzed you'l still have end unlike Bards/Pallys (assuming you stay in range, and assuming Pally/Bard chants cut out when mezzed)

 

[Nazghul-]

Midgard is the only realm that has to give up buffs (end costs conc) for end regen

 

[vesta]

Does it really matter that much?

Those 50 shammies beeing "afk" at mtk will provide the buffs so grp shammies dont have to worry about conc

 

[living]

50? think u need to get back to school asap

 

[Phelicia]

Pff, less whine...

I think this one is alot better. Fair to the other realms, and you don't have to run a chant/song like the other realms, just buff, and ur set.

 

[Shaki/Aeis]

The range on end is 1000 not 1500?

 

[zaberhut]

Originally posted by Phelicia
Pff, less whine...

I think this one is alot better. Fair to the other realms, and you don't have to run a chant/song like the other realms, just buff, and ur set.

Could atleast have made it grp vice instead of 1 for each char etc

 

[old.anubis]

Originally posted by Shaki/Aeis
The range on end is 1000 not 1500?

it's 1500

1000 is for buffing, like any other buff

 

[Archeon]

Originally posted by zaberhut
Could atleast have made it grp vice instead of 1 for each char etc

isn't end5 a group based conc spell? Or was that just a rumour?

 

[Whisperess]

Group based end-regen doesn't exist for the shaman anymore - it's single-cast 1-5.

But doesn't bother me ( well, my shaman ) much, since I cast it once and then it's over with - no need to recast unless people die.

 

[solaufein_cappu]

lets have all the shamans run in the fight, stand still and start jumping up and down so it looks like they are messed. maybe enemy tanks wont touch em ;]

 

[soullessminion]

Look on the bright side, No more GIV END PLZ!!! spam when walking past any eexp area

 

[zmurf]

The range is fine, and the conc based system is much more fair, and to those whinning we loose 8 'buff's' and the other realm's don't, we have had the best end in the entire game for a loong time now, it's ok we got a minor setback (which it really isen't)

and why spec away pf ? what could possible be more importnent at 7lX that u wanna spec away this insane RA ?

 

[Gewny]

IMO it should be 2000 in range excatly for the same reason as why bards got it to 2000.

Remeber shammies are by Mythic classified as a clerical class, there main job is to heal and therefore healing classes has had several stuff (like the bards song) upped to 2000 to "be able to do there work".

 

[Whisperess]

Sounds reasonable enough.

 

[zmurf]

Originally posted by Gewny
IMO it should be 2000 in range excatly for the same reason as why bards got it to 2000.

Remeber shammies are by Mythic classified as a clerical class, there main job is to heal and therefore healing classes has had several stuff (like the bards song) upped to 2000 to "be able to do there work".

Prepatch our End was MUCH MUCH MUCH better than alb and Hib end, why is it so bad that hib got 33% more range than our end when they have to PLAY it to get it on the same char as speed, so if they get messed (bard don't got determ so purge better be up) they have to wait for bard to cast end for them to have it, if shaman is mezzed our ppl will still have end regen if they stay inside the range, why should their only be upsides to Mid's End regen Gewny, we got better 'end' but with shorter range, they got a worse 'end' but with 500more range, isen't that fair ?

 

[Brutalos]

Nice words, trully fair imho.. just get used to it :>

 

[Gewny]

Originally posted by zmurf
Prepatch our End was MUCH MUCH MUCH better than alb and Hib end, why is it so bad that hib got 33% more range than our end when they have to PLAY it to get it on the same char as speed, so if they get messed (bard don't got determ so purge better be up) they have to wait for bard to cast end for them to have it, if shaman is mezzed our ppl will still have end regen if they stay inside the range, why should their only be upsides to Mid's End regen Gewny, we got better 'end' but with shorter range, they got a worse 'end' but with 500more range, isen't that fair ?

Well other realms dosent need to give up preciuos buffslots for end, this is easy negative effect enugh. But the most important is that 1500 range is decreasing the survivability of a mend/aug shammy (that because of that spec only has one way of defense, being away from the attackers)

 

[Tilda]

Originally posted by Gewny
Well other realms dosent need to give up preciuos buffslots for end, this is easy negative effect enugh. But the most important is that 1500 range is decreasing the survivability of a mend/aug shammy (that because of that spec only has one way of defense, being away from the attackers)

thats exactally the point...

now albs and hibs acctually have a way to stop you getting end.
similarly do you.
Dont whine about the range, paladins range is 1000 so is yours.

To my supprise I find myself agreeing with everything Zmurf has said in this thread

Tilda

 

[Repent Reloaded]

they r puttin range on shaman spec buffs too in some patch, saw some yanks moaning about it, time to make a full aug healer me thinks.

 

[Archeon]

Originally posted by Repent Reloaded
they r puttin range on shaman spec buffs too in some patch, saw some yanks moaning about it, time to make a full aug healer me thinks.

I'm guessing you got this idea from here Camelol Herald. Its a parody site, not actually Mythic run - patch notes

 

[Ironfoot]

Originally posted by Tilda
thats exactally the point...

now albs and hibs acctually have a way to stop you getting end.
similarly do you.
Dont whine about the range, paladins range is 1000 so is yours.

To my supprise I find myself agreeing with everything Zmurf has said in this thread

Tilda

and paladins have insane af / plate / and shield slam all of which will keep them alive for a lot longer than a aug / medn speced shammy who actually has no form of defence that is any where close to what a pally would get

your point being ?

 

[Archeon]

Originally posted by Ironfoot
and paladins have insane af / plate / and shield slam all of which will keep them alive for a lot longer than a aug / medn speced shammy who actually has no form of defence that is any where close to what a pally would get

your point being ?

If you Mez a shaman it doesn't stop his group getting end.

 

[Ironfoot]

Originally posted by Archeon
If you Mez a shaman it doesn't stop his group getting end.

That got nothing to do with what i was talking about which is the actual surival of a shaman v a paladin both who have end on a 1000 range.

Which one if getting beat on wil fall 1st ?

Think you will find its the shammy. Paladins are built to be in the front rows with all the skills they have - high af, plate, shield , weapon spec etc. Shamans cannot survive as long as pally's if they have to be in the front row

 

[Archeon]

PBAE disease = 10% snare

couple that with Perma sprint and i'd say a Shaman can survive for just as long, if not longer than a pally. Still thats just how i see it, not all Shaman's spec for PBAE disease.. but then not all shamans spec for end either

 

[Tilda]

Originally posted by Ironfoot
and paladins have insane af / plate / and shield slam all of which will keep them alive for a lot longer than a aug / medn speced shammy who actually has no form of defence that is any where close to what a pally would get

your point being ?

insta disease + sprint = better defence than a pally.
tbh i would swap AF chant on my pally for a single targetted disease shout...

 

[Tasans]

Did anyone else see the words AUG/MEND shammy or was it just me?