#### Vodkafairy

##### Fledgling Freddie

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Ehm since I'm bored and thinking of respeccing my ns I made some calculations about different specs, can anyone (Pin or so ) take a look and see if these are correct? :>

If they are, it proves cd > cs in pure melee.

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Weapon style caps - rounded down

-((Growth Rate * Weapon Spec) * Effective Speed) / Unstyled Damage Cap

-(calculated using a 4.1 speed mainhand weapon, with 250+ qui, and 20% druid haste)

(spec/cap mainhand damage/growth rate)

::50+15 cd skill

Squall 292 0.59

Blinding Rain 331 0.88

Blizzard 336 0.92

::39+15 cs skill

garrote 298 0.75

achilles heel 330 1.03

hamstring 343 1.15

leaper 363 1.33

::50+15 dw skill

dual shadows 320 0.80

dark tendrils 333 0.90

dragonfang 327 0.85

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Average Dual Wield Damage - different specs

Actual DW = 25+(DW skill * .68)+(dual ref. lvl * 3)

I have dr1

-> (dw chance * dw dmg) + (non dw chance * non dw damage)

-> dw chance * (mainhand cap damage + offhand cap damage) + (1 - dw chance) * mainhand damage

50+15 cd | dr1 = 72.2%

-> 0.722 * (320 + 158) + (1-0.722) * 320 = 434 avg max swing dmg

12+15 cd | dr1 = 36.16%

-> 0.3616 * (333 + 158) + (1-0.3616) * 333 = 390 avg max swing dmg

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Average Weapon Speed - different specs | dw speed = 1.7856 | mainspeed = 2.0336

4.1 spd mainhand, 3.1 spd offhand

-> (dw chance * dw speed) + (non dw chance * non dw speed)

50+15 cd | dr1 = 72.2%

-> (0.772 * 1.7856) + ((1-0.772) * 2.0336) = 1.8421 average swing speed

12+15 cd | dr1 = 36.16%

-> (0.3616 * 1.7856) + ((1-0.3616) * 2.0336) = 1.9439 average swing speed

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Cap Damage Per Second

cap dps = average cap damage / average cap speed

50 cd / 10 cs spec: 434 / 1.8421 = 235.60 CDPS

12 cd / 39 cs spec: 390 / 1.9439 = 200.63 CDPS

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Conclusion

50 dw / 50 blade > 12 cd / 39 cs / 50 blade in melee, but there are of course many many more factors that are involved (style effects & luck... poison/missing/evading etc)

Or did I make a mistake anywhere?

Also want to calculate this with a 2.5 speed offhand but can't be arsed atm.

If they are, it proves cd > cs in pure melee.

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Weapon style caps - rounded down

-((Growth Rate * Weapon Spec) * Effective Speed) / Unstyled Damage Cap

-(calculated using a 4.1 speed mainhand weapon, with 250+ qui, and 20% druid haste)

(spec/cap mainhand damage/growth rate)

::50+15 cd skill

Squall 292 0.59

Blinding Rain 331 0.88

Blizzard 336 0.92

::39+15 cs skill

garrote 298 0.75

achilles heel 330 1.03

hamstring 343 1.15

leaper 363 1.33

::50+15 dw skill

dual shadows 320 0.80

dark tendrils 333 0.90

dragonfang 327 0.85

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Average Dual Wield Damage - different specs

Actual DW = 25+(DW skill * .68)+(dual ref. lvl * 3)

I have dr1

-> (dw chance * dw dmg) + (non dw chance * non dw damage)

-> dw chance * (mainhand cap damage + offhand cap damage) + (1 - dw chance) * mainhand damage

50+15 cd | dr1 = 72.2%

-> 0.722 * (320 + 158) + (1-0.722) * 320 = 434 avg max swing dmg

12+15 cd | dr1 = 36.16%

-> 0.3616 * (333 + 158) + (1-0.3616) * 333 = 390 avg max swing dmg

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Average Weapon Speed - different specs | dw speed = 1.7856 | mainspeed = 2.0336

4.1 spd mainhand, 3.1 spd offhand

-> (dw chance * dw speed) + (non dw chance * non dw speed)

50+15 cd | dr1 = 72.2%

-> (0.772 * 1.7856) + ((1-0.772) * 2.0336) = 1.8421 average swing speed

12+15 cd | dr1 = 36.16%

-> (0.3616 * 1.7856) + ((1-0.3616) * 2.0336) = 1.9439 average swing speed

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Cap Damage Per Second

cap dps = average cap damage / average cap speed

50 cd / 10 cs spec: 434 / 1.8421 = 235.60 CDPS

12 cd / 39 cs spec: 390 / 1.9439 = 200.63 CDPS

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Conclusion

50 dw / 50 blade > 12 cd / 39 cs / 50 blade in melee, but there are of course many many more factors that are involved (style effects & luck... poison/missing/evading etc)

Or did I make a mistake anywhere?

Also want to calculate this with a 2.5 speed offhand but can't be arsed atm.