Duel Logging

[Commandment]

Just wondering could anybody help me out with duellogging

ive got a gimpy pc but does the job <celeron 2.76ghz 768mbs of ram and Gforce 5500 128mb gfx card>

for duel logging i run SI client in windowed mode .. and use no spell effects etc

and it runs ok <small bit laggy here and there> for a while. but then i get a message error smart heap out of memory xD and one of the accounts is closed.

is there anything i can do to help me duel log ? besides from upgrading pc

thx

 

[Dwali]

try set both accont on lowest priority when using ctrl+alt+del command...i did it on a amd 750 with 256 ram...it laggd then and still laggs on amd 2600+ qnd 1.5 gb ram...and run both acconts in window mode...best way of trying i presume...workt for me anyway so u might just try

 

[Commandment]

try set both accont on lowest priority when using ctrl+alt+del command...i did it on a amd 750 with 256 ram...it laggd then and still laggs on amd 2600+ qnd 1.5 gb ram...and run both acconts in window mode...best way of trying i presume...workt for me anyway so u might just try

so what ? log in both accounts .. then type ctrl - alt - delete .. and set them on low priority ?

 

[Dwali]

yess just what i meen...then they wont use so much cpu power and memory power...but i reccomend if u can get cheap 1 more 512 ram

 

[[SS]Gamblor]

I use a p4 with 512 mb or ram (DDr400)

I sometimes use dual accounts ( when my bro isn't playing my 2nd account).

I set the priority of both Game.dll's to low ... i still get the message that i've run out of memory , however i can still run both accounts =)

 

[Alan]

When i set a task to be lower priority - often the 2nd account would go LD.

Since using the /clientsleep command - never had that problem.

 

[Oboy]

u can also increase the virtual memory on ur pc to avoid that message.

 

[youngbaba]

DAoC eats up however much memory is available, even with 1 client running in windowed mode you would run out of virtual memory regardless of how high you set it.

An if you do set it any higher, there will be a lot more caching to disk, and this means a lot more stuttering

 

[MKJ]

Dual logging or 2 base units?

I know this is an expense - albeit a worthwhile one - but I run 2 base units with only one monitor, keyboard and mouse. They are connected using an electronic KVM switch. It resides next to the keyboard and I just press a button to flick between computers. When I was running 2 accounts I would operate my buffbot on the low spec base unit with low end graphic settings and my main on my high spec. Not only that but having access to 2 computers is a godsend, especially when one develops a fault for one reason or another. All you need is a low spec base unit and a KVM switchbox - cheaper than you think. Oh and a method of linking them for internet connection sharing. I use a usb data cable for that. A great way to overcome all the problems associated with dual logging. Infact my main computer just broke down but I was still able to log on and mess about on my website etc with the other low spec.

Something to think about anyways. If you need any other info about this well just ask.

 

[Ingafgrinn Macabre]

thought you ran unbuffed... how would you know this? :touch:

 

[MKJ]

Well my buffed SB was invincible and I retired him unbeaten after all the uproar. Everyone said it was the buffs doing the killing sos I killed em all again whilst unbuffed . But I was buffed forra while for sure.

 

[Devilseye]

/clientsleep background (so dont minimize the BB!! )

START>CONFIG>SYSTEM>ADVANCED>PERFORMANCE>

Cpu usage and check the "Background services" thingie..

Also speeds things up

and idd. 768ram is tolow

imo.. make sure its PC3200 (400mhz)
best thing is: 512mb x2 (and if your Motherboard supports it.. set them as Dual Channel (makes them both run on 200mhz, but thats normal/ok) )

Have fun with Dual logging
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btw.. i take it you have 1x 512. and 1x 256 ram.

not sure that if you buy another 512 (PC 3200)
that the Dual Channel thingie still works if you still want to use the spare 256ram
an another thing

having 1x PC2100 or so.. and you buy a new 3200.. the 3200 will run on 2100 aswell

but hmm what does ram cost these days.. barely anything!
(considering i paid for 1mb (couple of years back) 10 dutch guilders (maybe even 100.. forgot about it.. but still 1mb = 10 (old) dutch guilders..
today you pay for a 1024mb kit (thus 2x 512 pc3200) 100ish euro's (about 220 old guilders)

el, cheapo

 

[DirtyDiana]

DAoC eats up however much memory is available, even with 1 client running in windowed mode you would run out of virtual memory regardless of how high you set it.

An if you do set it any higher, there will be a lot more caching to disk, and this means a lot more stuttering

This is not true i run 2gb of ram and with both ac's in window mode and full graphic settings it uses about 1.58 GB of ram, without /clientsleep also .. thats on Windows x64

 

[Commandment]

Thx for all the help guys

i understood about half of it xD

but the duel logging and pressing ctrl+alt+delete and setting proirtys down to

low seems to have done the job .. can arr ve arr decently enuf atm

 

[Technodave]

Mdaoc is a small tool that allows you to run two intances of the ToA client
It manages ressources, to ensure that the TOA in the background is assigned enough CPU power to avoid lag/going LD. Well werth trying

 

[Myrthe]

hmm,how to make sure it has no keyloggers or nasty backdoors?


(yes i lack the knowledge to find out,thats why i ask)

 

[Kinag]

Mdaoc is a small tool that allows you to run two intances of the ToA client
It manages ressources, to ensure that the TOA in the background is assigned enough CPU power to avoid lag/going LD. Well werth trying

Only one thing though, that's a third part program, which is illegal.

 

[Commandment]

Only one thing though, that's a third part program, which is illegal.

but all it does is help duel logging ?

still illegal ?

 

[RandomDotCom]

Only one thing though, that's a third part program, which is illegal.

that's like saying

"turning off your ingame sounds and turning on winamp is illegal cuz it's a third party program. You turn it on and it gives you different sound"

i use a program called "freeram xp" ... it runs in the background all the time and frees ram that isn't in use but has memory stored on it. Should goa terminate my account for using it cuz it allows my pc to run smoother while gaming ? I think not. A program that manages resources doesn't directly interefere or change the game. GoA won't terminate your account for using a program that lets you use their service.

How about this one:

I go and download ventrilo, i install it, i get the proper DAoC ip number for rvr, join it and start talking to other people on it. Should GoA ban every person that uses ventrilo? It is after all a third party program that people run while gaming in order to enhance their gaming experience. It doesn't however, interfere with daoc coding, such as macro programs, speedhacks or whatever else that people use to make the game easy mode.

Commandment, just set both accounts to /clientsleep background and swap between the 2 using your taskbar. You will get less lag. Do other ideas too, can't hurt.

BTW kinag ... you the same kinag on my msn list ?

 

[Kinag]

Yes Wert.

But I'm not against it or anything, I'm just saying that you'll never know what GOA will take action against, and it just states that third part programs are not allowed to run, aslong as it has something to do with daoc (which winamp does not).

But by all means, go ahead.

 

[Commandment]

so we can all get banned for using fraps ? ;-0

 

[Kaun_IA]

so we can all get banned for using fraps ? ;-0

no!!!

i run a 2.4ghz P4, 768 ddr, ati radeon X800pro (256 drr3 memory)
i duallog often, whit no probs. both accs have cata, full gfx, efects on, 1152*... so rezo(basically same setings on both)

only probs i have are the LONG loadings in the game, zoneing, changeing a char,
and so on, evrything to do whit loading takes really long, but i dont have lagg on both accs. (only in rvr whit zergz)

i have both accs /clientsleep backround (imo its defoult too). so i would say u should do the same........