Draw Mohammed day

[Raven]

Oh, guess i missed the part where it's a law now that you can't draw a picture of mohammed in the UK.

Do show this article.

It isn't. Once again that's the point. What right does some guy in a far away land have to say that I can't draw a picture of Mohammed?

Seriously Toht I don't know why I bother, you are just trolling now.

 

[old.Tohtori]

Tell that to a certain Danish cartoonist or to a now dead Theo van Gogh. Or the players and fans of the Danish and Dutch soccer teams playing in South Africa this summer.

You're still not denied to draw a picture. People might murder you fro it, but there's laws against that. You are still very much free to draw pictures to your hearts content.

Should we stop drawing pictures at all then?

See above.

Did i say you should stop?

You claim these pictures are drawn to show and change them, ut if you don't think they will, why draw them?

Point is you will be attacked when wearing a shirt with Mohammed on it.

Don't care about that, the point was, are you the type of person to attack others because they don't like what you do? Guess you are then.

Go and brush up on your art history and come back again.

Infact what did happen to people who said the world wasn't flat?

Not even close to what i said.

It isn't. Once again that's the point. What right does some guy in a far away land have to say that I can't draw a picture of Mohammed?

They have the very same right to tell you that they don't like what you're doing, as much as you do have the right to say you don't like their way.

You're defending your right to free speech, but are against people using it against you? Funny.

 

[chipper]

tbh im geniunely quite torn on this, part of me wants to antagonise and ridicule them because of how backwards i find the fanatics and the hatred i feel for them over the acts they've done but hey crusades etc we arent exactly innocent. but then again i think to myself what about all the innocent muslims who dont make threats but can just sit back quite dissapointed and see a bad situation further deteriorating.

this doesnt do anything to further the cause that islam is a backwards religion it just gets their backs up and makes things worse in all honesty drawing pictures is just petty and its something you expect children to do when they dont like someone.

i do respect your right to draw whatever you like and contrary to my post i wouldnt say dont do it i just think its rather pathetic and pointless and doesnt actually do anything cept push innocent muslims into the waiting arms of the fanatics.

as always i just wish religion didnt fucking exsist

 

[Raven]

Bloody hell, I just cant be arsed. Its a waste of time.

 

[Tuthmes]

You're still not denied to draw a picture. People might murder you fro it, but there's laws against that. You are still very much free to draw pictures to your hearts content.



Did i say you should stop?

You claim these pictures are drawn to show and change them, ut if you don't think they will, why draw them?



Don't care about that, the point was, are you the type of person to attack others because they don't like what you do? Guess you are then.



Not even close to what i said.

Seriously Toht I don't know why I bother, you are just trolling now.

Nuff said.

 

[old.Tohtori]

Heh, the usual troll card is played. Figures.

Someone pick up their toys.

 

[Tuthmes]

Heh, the usual troll card is played. Figures.

Someone pick up my toys.

There changed it for you.

 

[old.Tohtori]

Think best summary is this;

It isn't. Once again that's the point. What right does some guy in a far away land have to say that I can't draw a picture of Mohammed?

They have the very same right to tell you that they don't like what you're doing, as much as you do have the right to say you don't like their way.

You're defending your right to free speech, but are against people using it against you? Funny.

Now if someone wants to discuss the matter that doesn't involve avoiding questions and contradictions, feel free to poke.

 

[soze]

So there is a guy in your local pub who hates having his ear flicked. Every time someone flicks his ear he goes mad and hits them with a chair.

Now this reaction is stupid so who here that thinks drawing pictures to provoke a reaction is ok because its the only way they will learn would have the balls to flick the guys ear?

 

[old.Tohtori]

Or how about another tyoe of question;

Who here hates cheating husbands/wives, or who thinks cheating shouldn't be done?

 

[Raven]

But do you threaten violence and carry out violence towards those that do it? Should it be considered a crime?

 

[old.Tohtori]

But do you threaten violence and carry out violence towards those that do it? Should it be considered a crime?

Didn't answer the question did you, answer mine and i'll answr yours.

Actually i'll make the point anywy, just out of good will;

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Heard of some form of news on "man kills cheating wife" or "wife stabs cheating husband"?

Or how about "brother of wife beats cheating husband up, threatens to kill"

Bet there's more of those then there are "killed over drawing" right?

Right. Murder and threats over cheating.

What's the harm of cheating? Mental anguish, hurt feelings, sanctity broken etc.

Now if you don't like people cheating, you're the same as someone not liking a picture. Fair enough i think, you don't like something that isn't illegal.

Now, if you kill a person for cheating or you kill a person for a picture, same deal, it's murder and there's laws on that.

So, is there a contradiction, in your dislikes and the war on dislikes of others, here?

 

[Raven]

Ok. I couldn't care less if someone cheats on their partner. That's their personal business. They are free to sleep with whoever they like whenever they like.

Now you.

 

[fettoken]

Or how about another tyoe of question;

Who here hates cheating husbands/wives, or who thinks cheating shouldn't be done?

I think that most people here would not like their husband / wife to cheat on them, but would not care what others husbands / wifes did tbh.

 

[old.Tohtori]

Was just typing it, read above.

In an essence;

Everyone has their rights, murder is still illegal, stop poking the nest with unnecessary things.

 

[Tuthmes]

You fail to mention Toth that you cheated because your husband whas a abusive drunk and/or wouldnt let you out of the house without a burka on. And that he mentioned he will kill you if you leave and/or cheat.

 

[old.Tohtori]

You fail to mention Toth that you cheated because your husband whas a abusive drunk and/or wouldnt let you out of the house without a burka on. And that he will kill you if you leave and/or cheat.

And that's different of a white guy in UK who's an abusive drunk and won't let his wife out of the house with a short top and miniskirt...how exactly?

 

[Tuthmes]

And that's different of a white guy in UK who's an abusive drunk and won't let his wife out of the house with a short top and miniskirt...how exactly?

None, hence the abusive drunk and/or.

 

[old.Tohtori]

None, hence the abusive drunk and/or.

Well we agree on that atleast, but the example i pointed out about cheat-kills is that it happens, possibly, to anyone of any race, religion or belief.

 

[Tuthmes]

Well we agree on that atleast, but the example i pointed out about cheat-kills is that it happens, possibly, to anyone of any race, religion or belief.

Yes, but you're saying to stay in the house and relationship, because you don't want to poke the nest.

 

[old.Tohtori]

Yes, but you're saying to stay in the house and relationship, because you don't want to poke the nest.

Not at all, i'm saying that people kill people for things we either dislike or don't care about on any given subject.

You wouldn't go to a house and tell the wife that her husband cheated, just to teach her that it's not something to get angry about.

Like said, getting angry over cheating or getting angry over a picture is an emotional response to a non-illegal activity.

 

[Tuthmes]

Not at all, i'm saying that people kill people for things we either dislike or don't care about on any given subject.

You wouldn't go to a house and tell the wife that her husband cheated, just to teach her that it's not something to get angry about.

Like said, getting angry over cheating or getting angry over a picture is an emotional response to a non-illegal activity.

And therefor we shouldn't draw the picture?

 

[old.Tohtori]

And therefor we shouldn't draw the picture?

Should you try and incite an aggressive reaction on any given subject?

 

[Tuthmes]

Ohh and to add to that:

You wouldn't go to a house and tell the wife that her husband can't draw a certain picture, just to teach her that it's not something I'd like.

 

[Tuthmes]

Should you try and incite an aggressive reaction on any given subject?

If the reaction is out of order, yes. Infact this proves the point of the incitation.

 

[old.Tohtori]

Cool, you support people doing things that will make other people act violent. Good for you.

 

[Tuthmes]

Cool, you support people doing things that will make other people act violent. Good for you.

Cool, you adhere to voilent people telling you what you can and cannot do. Good for you.

 

[soze]

Cool, you adhere to voilent people telling you what you can and cannot do. Good for you.

Yes I decide not to start a fight for no reason just because violent people tell me not to, it has nothing to do with being civilised.

 

[old.Tohtori]

Yes I decide not to start a fight for no reason just because violent people tell me not to, it has nothing to do with being civilised.

Not to mention i never said i do what violent people tell me to do

You don't have to do what others tell you to, but you shouldn't try to provoke violence either.

 

[Tuthmes]

Yes I decide not to start a fight for no reason just because violent people tell me not to, it has nothing to do with being civilised.

No reason? People like beeing able to express themselfs. Be it with music, art, what not. Beeing able todo that is a part of beeing civilized.

Not to mention i never said i do what violent people tell me to do

You don't have to do what others tell you to, but you shouldn't try to provoke violence either.

Chamberlain would be proud of you.