Dont want to alarm anyone but...

[Daedalus]

I think that it's useless to discuss about it. It's irrelevant wether or not he exists, wether or not a religion is based on truth or lies.

What is relevant, however, is the way that people deal with their religion and its surroudings.

 

[Belomar]

All right, enough hairsplitting. Clearly, since Aoln exists, and he is Jesus, then Jesus exists? Q.E.D.

 

[cog]

Does this mean we have to start worshipping Aoln?

 

[Tristessa]

Burn the inconnus,kobolds and lurikeens. Clearly they are the miniature seeds of Evil! Repent!!! Those are my religious beliefs

 

[Oli7er]

zebolt is about 100 years too late to strike anyone with his statement

 

[Ormorof]

fyi, the correct pronounciation of "jesus" in ancient arameic is "Br'ian" and no, Jesus wasn't black ;o

a miracle!

 

[Zapsi]

All right, enough hairsplitting. Clearly, since Aoln exists, and he is Jesus, then Jesus exists? Q.E.D.

Yes lets base a new religion on him then, Lets say he was born by a man on the Northpole got nothing to eat 3 months and walked to Chile in 5 days ( in stealth)

 

[Oldfaravid]

Didn't you see? I did
Never said I had any evidence for or against my statement, but I am allowed to say my point of view, jeez ^^

If there were infact evidence as you say for Jesus existance I wouldn't question it nor would other sane ppl. But there are no real evidence neither for or against so don't come praise me with that hocus pocus..

There is evidence that jesus existed, however there isnt any substantial evidence that he was the son of "god"... That jesus from nazareth existed and got put on the cross etc as been proven historically..

 

[Oldfaravid]

I am Christian tho which rly doesn't have anything to do with it. And if no one for certain can tell if Jesus did exsit or not aka to be 100% certain. What makes me say Jesus did not exist more ignorant than the person saying Jesus did exist? It's just two sides of the view

Zebolt beliving in god or "a god" isnt being Christian.. Being Christian is beleaving in jesus christ as your saviour = acknowledging he walked the earth and took on all your sins as he died on the cross... And now we are discussing peoples inner belives *sigh* I dont like doing that, people can belive what they want.. however when someone is saying they are christian and not beliving in jesus :eek2: .. if you dont belive in jesus any of the other abraham religions would suit you better (jew, islam)

 

[fajjtiz]

..

whole christianity bases on Jesus death and rebirth, saying you dont' believe in on or the other, you simply are not a christian. end of discussion.

 

[Zebolt]

There is evidence that jesus existed, however there isnt any substantial evidence that he was the son of "god"... That jesus from nazareth existed and got put on the cross etc as been proven historically..

Did I say there hasn't been a guy named Jesus? When I say Jesus didn't exist I ofc meant the son of god, the legend and tale I've been raised with, what makes you even think otherwise?

Zebolt beliving in god or "a god" isnt being Christian.. Being Christian is beleaving in jesus christ as your saviour = acknowledging he walked the earth and took on all your sins as he died on the cross...

Maybe thats how being Christian is to you and many others but there is no laws (except for the 10 commandments) that has to be followed to be cassified as I Chrisitan, I might have other believes in the Christian history than you, does that make me less Christian? I could classify that as an insult tbh ^^

 

[Tristessa]

Zebolt beliving in god or "a god" isnt being Christian.. Being Christian is beleaving in jesus christ as your saviour = acknowledging he walked the earth and took on all your sins as he died on the cross... And now we are discussing peoples inner belives *sigh* I dont like doing that, people can belive what they want.. however when someone is saying they are christian and not beliving in jesus :eek2: .. if you dont belive in jesus any of the other abraham religions would suit you better (jew, islam)

Have to agree with that. Kinda hard to be a *Christian* and not believe in *Christ*. I see a pattern in the names The 10 commandments are somewhat of a stepping stone. Jesus is the essence of the religion.

 

[fajjtiz]

Jesus is the essence of the religion.

actually Jesus is not _that_ important, what was more important was that he died and resurrected.

 

[Daedalus]

I die and get resurrected every time in this bloody game.

 

[Ezteq]

I die and get resurrected every time in this bloody game.

Aeatan for jesus!!
*poke* thy neighbour :worthy: :worthy:

hay he wears a dress too <wubs>

 

[Bagloor]

Zebolt beliving in god or "a god" isnt being Christian.. Being Christian is beleaving in jesus christ as your saviour = acknowledging he walked the earth and took on all your sins as he died on the cross... And now we are discussing peoples inner belives *sigh* I dont like doing that, people can belive what they want.. however when someone is saying they are christian and not beliving in jesus :eek2: .. if you dont belive in jesus any of the other abraham religions would suit you better (jew, islam)

Who are you to judge other peoples belives and tell them what is right or wrong ^^

 

[Oldfaravid]

Who are you to judge other peoples belives and tell them what is right or wrong ^^

I hate all that has to do with judging peoples beliefs etc, I really do. My own belief have been questioned bye a nr of people who think I live a sin full life. To me im as christian as all other people. Its just that I choose to look at it a bit different. However belief is something that comes from the inside of a person and is very personal. Zebolt is free to belive what ever he wants and if he wants to call him self christian then ok.. Regardless of this I find saying you are christian = beliving in jesus christ as your saviour who died on the cross for your sins and then saying you dont belive jesus existed??? It kind of dont make sense.. Thats why I said that any of the other 2 abraham religions (there are 3, Chrisitan, Islam, jew) wich also put their belives in a god would perhaps be a better a better word for what zebolt belive in.. the 10 commandments is from the old testament and not the new (wich holds the whole story of jesus and his doings).. there for jews and christians have a very similiar belief (the jews even accnowledge jesus as a profet not as a Messiah and the son of god).

I am sorry if I offended you in any way zebolt, you are free to belive what ever you want..

 

[Hawkwind]

why do we have the calendar modeled after this man? 2004 AC or dinosaurs living in 65.000.000 BC? *Just a wild guess about the dinosaurs. Dont start flaming about real years*

Calender was comissioned by the Catholic Church. Think it was pope Gregory, hence Gregorian Calander. Think it may have been in their interest to include the birth of Christ

Lol, just looked it up http://www.geocities.com/calendopaedia/gregory.htm. It was Pope Gregory XIII. Listed below some of the dates that we swapped from Julien to Gregorian:

Albania: December 1912

Austria: Different regions on different dates
5 Oct 1583 was followed by 16 Oct 1583
14 Dec 1583 was followed by 25 Dec 1583

Belgium: Different authorities say
14 Dec 1582 was followed by 25 Dec 1582
21 Dec 1582 was followed by 1 Jan 1583

Bulgaria: Different authorities say
Sometime in 1912
Sometime in 1915
18 Mar 1916 was followed by 1 Apr 1916

China: Different authorities say
18 Dec 1911 was followed by 1 Jan 1912
18 Dec 1928 was followed by 1 Jan 1929

Czechoslovakia (i.e. Bohemia and Moravia):
6 Jan 1584 was followed by 17 Jan 1584

Denmark (including Norway):
18 Feb 1700 was followed by 1 Mar 1700

Egypt: 1875

Estonia: January 1918

Finland: Then part of Sweden. (Note, however, that Finland later
became part of Russia, which then still used the
Julian calendar. The Gregorian calendar remained
official in Finland, but some use of the Julian
calendar was made.)

France: 9 Dec 1582 was followed by 20 Dec 1582

Germany: Different states on different dates:
Catholic states on various dates in 1583-1585
Prussia: 22 Aug 1610 was followed by 2 Sep 1610
Protestant states: 18 Feb 1700 was followed by 1 Mar 1700

Great Britain and Dominions (including what is now the USA):
2 Sep 1752 was followed by 14 Sep 1752

Greece: 9 Mar 1924 was followed by 23 Mar 1924

Hungary: 21 Oct 1587 was followed by 1 Nov 1587

Italy: 4 Oct 1582 was followed by 15 Oct 1582

Japan: Different authorities say:
19 Dec 1872 was followed by 1 Jan 1873
18 Dec 1918 was followed by 1 Jan 1919

Latvia: During German occupation 1915 to 1918

Lithuania: 1915

Luxembourg: 14 Dec 1582 was followed by 25 Dec 1582

Netherlands:
Brabant, Flanders, Holland, Artois, Hennegau:
14 Dec 1582 was followed by 25 Dec 1582
Geldern, Friesland, Zeuthen, Groningen, Overysel:
30 Nov 1700 was followed by 12 Dec 1700

Norway: Then part of Denmark.

Poland: 4 Oct 1582 was followed by 15 Oct 1582

Portugal: 4 Oct 1582 was followed by 15 Oct 1582

Prussia : 22 Aug 1610 was followed by 2 Sept 1610

Romania: 31 Mar 1919 was followed by 14 Apr 1919

Russia: 31 Jan 1918 was followed by 14 Feb 1918

Spain: 4 Oct 1582 was followed by 15 Oct 1582

Sweden (including Finland):
17 Feb 1753 was followed by 1 Mar 1753 (see note below)

Switzerland:
Catholic cantons: 1583 or 1584
Zurich, Bern, Basel, Schafhausen, Neuchatel, Geneva:
31 Dec 1700 was followed by 12 Jan 1701
St Gallen: 1724

Transylvania : 14 Dec 1590 was followed by 25 Dec 1590

Turkey: The correction in Turkey was applied in stages.
16 Feb 1334 (1917 Greg) was followed by 1 Mar 1334
when Gregorian days and months were used.
31 Dec 1340 was followed by 1 Jan 1926
when the Gregorian year counting was adopted

Tyrol : 5 Oct 1583 was followed by 16 Oct 1583

USA: See Great Britain, of which it was then a colony.

Yugoslavia: 14 January 1919 was followed by 28 January 1919
but parts of the country had changed over earlier.

Must have been quite confusing to suddenly loose a month.

 

[Ilum]

zebolt never existed

 

[Daedalus]

Aeatan for jesus!!
*poke* thy neighbour :worthy: :worthy:

hay he wears a dress too <wubs>

It's not a dress! :-/.
I lack a beard though.

 

[Maoni]

... I think i'm jesus !

I woke up this morning and discovered it, I'm not lying either. Take a look at the evidence.

See, the proof is conclusive.




Yes, i am bored

If you PL my alts to 50 i beleive you are God!
=P

 

[Straef]

It's not a dress! :-/.
I lack a beard though.

Can't deny secretly wearing grandma panties tho, can you?

 

[Tesla Monkor]

See religion and religious texts for what they are.. a manual on how to live. Consider life to be the biggest MMORPG in existance.. Play it, then check the manual like everyone else does. Manuals tend to be horribly out of date shortly after the game goes live.

You think the DAoC manual is out of date, three years after the game went live?

 

[Ormorof]

See religion and religious texts for what they are.. a manual on how to live. Consider life to be the biggest MMORPG in existance.. Play it, then check the manual like everyone else does. Manuals tend to be horribly out of date shortly after the game goes live.

You think the DAoC manual is out of date, three years after the game went live?

lol, thats an intresting way of looking at it

i guess that explains alot though.... for example why christians dont follow the stuff in the "manual"

its probably more of a guideline than actual rules?

 

[Ashash Saleem]

Calender was comissioned by the Catholic Church. Think it was pope Gregory, hence Gregorian Calander. Think it may have been in their interest to include the birth of Christ

Lol, just looked it up http://www.geocities.com/calendopaedia/gregory.htm. It was Pope Gregory XIII. Listed below some of the dates that we swapped from Julien to Gregorian:

Albania: December 1912

Austria: Different regions on different dates
5 Oct 1583 was followed by 16 Oct 1583
14 Dec 1583 was followed by 25 Dec 1583

Belgium: Different authorities say
14 Dec 1582 was followed by 25 Dec 1582
21 Dec 1582 was followed by 1 Jan 1583

Bulgaria: Different authorities say
Sometime in 1912
Sometime in 1915
18 Mar 1916 was followed by 1 Apr 1916

China: Different authorities say
18 Dec 1911 was followed by 1 Jan 1912
18 Dec 1928 was followed by 1 Jan 1929

Czechoslovakia (i.e. Bohemia and Moravia):
6 Jan 1584 was followed by 17 Jan 1584

Denmark (including Norway):
18 Feb 1700 was followed by 1 Mar 1700

Egypt: 1875

Estonia: January 1918

Finland: Then part of Sweden. (Note, however, that Finland later
became part of Russia, which then still used the
Julian calendar. The Gregorian calendar remained
official in Finland, but some use of the Julian
calendar was made.)

France: 9 Dec 1582 was followed by 20 Dec 1582

Germany: Different states on different dates:
Catholic states on various dates in 1583-1585
Prussia: 22 Aug 1610 was followed by 2 Sep 1610
Protestant states: 18 Feb 1700 was followed by 1 Mar 1700

Great Britain and Dominions (including what is now the USA):
2 Sep 1752 was followed by 14 Sep 1752

Greece: 9 Mar 1924 was followed by 23 Mar 1924

Hungary: 21 Oct 1587 was followed by 1 Nov 1587

Italy: 4 Oct 1582 was followed by 15 Oct 1582

Japan: Different authorities say:
19 Dec 1872 was followed by 1 Jan 1873
18 Dec 1918 was followed by 1 Jan 1919

Latvia: During German occupation 1915 to 1918

Lithuania: 1915

Luxembourg: 14 Dec 1582 was followed by 25 Dec 1582

Netherlands:
Brabant, Flanders, Holland, Artois, Hennegau:
14 Dec 1582 was followed by 25 Dec 1582
Geldern, Friesland, Zeuthen, Groningen, Overysel:
30 Nov 1700 was followed by 12 Dec 1700

Norway: Then part of Denmark.

Poland: 4 Oct 1582 was followed by 15 Oct 1582

Portugal: 4 Oct 1582 was followed by 15 Oct 1582

Prussia : 22 Aug 1610 was followed by 2 Sept 1610

Romania: 31 Mar 1919 was followed by 14 Apr 1919

Russia: 31 Jan 1918 was followed by 14 Feb 1918

Spain: 4 Oct 1582 was followed by 15 Oct 1582

Sweden (including Finland):
17 Feb 1753 was followed by 1 Mar 1753 (see note below)

Switzerland:
Catholic cantons: 1583 or 1584
Zurich, Bern, Basel, Schafhausen, Neuchatel, Geneva:
31 Dec 1700 was followed by 12 Jan 1701
St Gallen: 1724

Transylvania : 14 Dec 1590 was followed by 25 Dec 1590

Turkey: The correction in Turkey was applied in stages.
16 Feb 1334 (1917 Greg) was followed by 1 Mar 1334
when Gregorian days and months were used.
31 Dec 1340 was followed by 1 Jan 1926
when the Gregorian year counting was adopted

Tyrol : 5 Oct 1583 was followed by 16 Oct 1583

USA: See Great Britain, of which it was then a colony.

Yugoslavia: 14 January 1919 was followed by 28 January 1919
but parts of the country had changed over earlier.

Must have been quite confusing to suddenly loose a month.

Just a side note vaguely linked to this info, the reason we have april fools day on april 1st is because before the gregorian calander april the 1st was actually new years day and when it was changed lots of people refused to adhere to it and pope gregory declared all who didnt adhere to it as fools and heretics (although the 'pranks' played at that time were a bit more severe, anyone cought worshiping new years on april the 1st was stoned).

Oh and i believe in the original knights templar view of the bible etc, it was ammended before being released by the pope and stuff was taken out so the church wouldnt lose face, ie- jesus not really being a son of god but jthe son of a carpenter and a prophet who was a direct decendant of king david, and mary magdeleien (sp?) was not a whore but also a direct descendant of a powerful king and she was married to jesus, the pope at the time was scared that this would come out and the royal lines would be united against the roman church and changed this info. That's what i believe as it sounds more plausbile to me, but then again i also believe that dracula is really judus being punished by god for betraying jesus to the romans, thats why he hates religious icons and silver Anyway we all have the right to believe in what we want

 

[Vermillon]

Maybe thats how being Christian is to you and many others but there is no laws (except for the 10 commandments) that has to be followed to be cassified as I Chrisitan, I might have other believes in the Christian history than you, does that make me less Christian? I could classify that as an insult tbh ^^

I'm not very devoted christian either but i dont attack the main reason of the Cristian church like you do.
I think your are just an other Jew and you still waiting you own Jesus.

 

[Huntingtons]

aoln, who is your real father? i mean, c'mon i dont eat that shit abou "god" i think your mother got shagged up and made it up that phony tramp... tell me!

 

[Belomar]

Search your feelings, Aoln, you know it to be true. I am your father.

 

[Jobil]

Search your feelings, Aoln, you know it to be true. I am your father.

always thought it was Fester from LB

 

[Anar]

Anyone read the "Templar revalation"? Ooo Eeer