Dont EVER trust Loriot the mincer

[Maoni]

He had a convienient LD the second after we finnished the Som encounter and he never returned. (we gave him 20 min to return)
I know shit happens etc....but if i where you dont ever trust him.
(he might actually be LD for real and couldnt get back etc.....and if that is so pls disregard this)

It was, if u ask me, very suspicious tho.

(He got SoM when he LDéd if it isnt obvious)
He was unguilded when he was with us, but acording duskwave.com he is in (was?)knights of the round table. If anyone knows any of hes alts pls post here....dont let him get away with this.
NOt meaning Kotl is a bad guild or anything, its just if you know if hes still in theguild with any alt.

 

[ye-roon]

If u ask me he was just after som and then faked his LD. It was too obvious that he went for the spot where the cloak would drop just before it dropped and then pressed f7 + g like a crazy mofo.


If somone has info on him then please post, but for now he is one of the sickest persons i have met in this game. pick loot and fake ld, really sad..

 

[-Freezingwiz-]

some ppl are just too greedy

 

[kirennia]

Is the sad state of the game at the moment that I would never consider grouping with an unguilded person anymore and am weary about people I don't know in guilds too because far too much of this is happening A great instance was of the new player on 'northern' account with eramai on 5% life joined the BG whilst some guildies were killing it, picked up the cloak the second it dropped then logged off but because it was a public BG, it was okay according to GoA.

As a result I'd give the following advice:

Never group with unguilded people to do artifacts, you never know, it might even be a new owner on the account
If you decide to let someone join simply for credit, tell them to stand at least 2000 units back of the encounter and if they move closer, kick them from the BG
If you see a char hanging around the spot of where the item drops, make sure you are there too f7/g spamming
Make sure all 3 treasurer commands are done before the raid (redo them too if you ported since setting them)
Make your battlegroups private on invite only basis so theres no password for them to sneakily obtain.


Sad set of guidelines really but state of things atm would suggest that simply being friendly/unsuspicious of people will just let you get abused

 

[Arinvan]

Never group with unguilded people to do artifacts, you never know, it might even be a new owner on the account If you decide to let someone join simply for credit, tell them to stand at least 2000 units back of the encounter and if they move closer, kick them from the BG

\o/ treat all unguilded like robbers you truely an alb! One is bad so all other are as well. But im good enough to rezz you or give you lift wiht AoE speed. i just have to love my fellow albs really .

PS: No im not Loriot just some other random unguilded because i dont like guilds

 

[Chronictank]

you should have taken screenshots and posted them to goa on rightnow, he would get a 9 day ban, insignificant i know but if it happened agai they might ban him/her permanently.

 

[Whiner]

I must agree with arinvan.

Being guilded or not doesn't change the behaviour of people.

It is a real shallow remark made against non-guilded people (for whatever reason they don't want to be guilded ...)

 

[Belomar]

\o/ treat all unguilded like robbers you truely an alb! One is bad so all other are as well. But im good enough to rezz you or give you lift wiht AoE speed. i just have to love my fellow albs really .

How hard is it to understand that the reason for this distrust is not out of bias, but out of necessity? That this kind of thing has happened time and time again in the past, and thus that even people like Kirennia (who is a very fair and open-minded person) would go to such steps to avoid artifact theft? It's not rocket science, even some "unguilded random" (your words) like you should be able to understand it.

The fact of the matter is, being in a guild ensures that there is some guarantee of you as a person, even more so if you are in a well-known guild (none of the old and respected guilds are "easy" to get into, afaik). At this point in the game, traded chars are everywhere and people need to protect their time investments.

 

[Whiner]

How hard is it to understand that the reason for this distrust is not out of bias, but out of necessity? That this kind of thing has happened time and time again in the past, and thus that even people like Kirennia (who is a very fair and open-minded person) would go to such steps to avoid artifact theft? It's not rocket science, even some "unguilded random" (your words) like you should be able to understand it.

The fact of the matter is, being in a guild ensures that there is some guarantee of you as a person, even more so if you are in a well-known guild (none of the old and respected guilds are "easy" to get into, afaik). At this point in the game, traded chars are everywhere and people need to protect their time investments.

Being guilded doesn't give ANY guarantee... Look at, for example the multiple posts about dawnbringer & co with the help of Shadowlords or for that matter people leaving a guild for a little while to pull where other people trying to have a nice gaming experience (winks to Stonypony, now back in the SS-stable).

As i said in my previous posts: it's very shallowminded to use generalisations like that... not all unguilded people are bad, as not all guilded people are ) by definition - good.

 

[Smilewhenyousaythat]

Use the bg commands and make it closed. Set clear instructions.

And please please please someone pm me (Asp, Auchter, Peculair) if you're doing SoM. I just want encounter cedit and I'll do whatever I'm told

 

[Arinvan]

How hard is it to understand that the reason for this distrust is not out of bias, but out of necessity?

oki because of a few idiots on alb its necessity do distrust all others if you think that way and all others i know why the climate on alb excalibur is that bad and nobody help each other

That this kind of thing has happened time and time again in the past

yes it happen and sometimes even guilded ppl NOT ONLY unguilded - generalise it to happen by only unguilded and ALL unguilded is just not fair

and thus that even people like Kirennia (who is a very fair and open-minded person) would go to such steps to avoid artifact theft?

Well i dont know how you define fair but i dont think its fair to treat ppl like robber before you even know em or they done anything bad

The fact of the matter is, being in a guild ensures that there is some guarantee of you as a person, even more so if you are in a well-known guild (none of the old and respected guilds are "easy" to get into, afaik)

see above its not - even guilded behave this way and i have to say i know incidents the guilds dont even care about see whiners post - not even the big guilds do or you think its fair to pull camped spots ? *wink dokuske*

At this point in the game, traded chars are everywhere and people need to protect their time investments

there are and IM NOT ONE OF EM ! and i dont like to be treat like one! i was in a few guilds by now even some bigger and well known guild on alb and i quited because i dont like guilds i prefer to be solo with a few freinds but this dont make me a distrusting or a bad person!!!

well what to say - even someone like you should be able to understand it that not all unguilded are bad and those that arent dont like to be treated like they are - it just prove your unsocial behavior twords unkown ppl. But luckly not all like you *wink whiner* and those ppl make it fun to play the game actually and make it worth to be on alb

 

[Loriot]

Hi there..

Yes its true I went LD due to my connection crashed. I'm sorry for this and suggest the people who did Shades of Mist can arrange a time and roll for item I've tried to get a hold of a few but only got a hold of the other minstrel Cutypie... anyways lets arrange something!

 

[Belomar]

Actually, I think you will find that it is you who are whining, and furthermore that the sentiments I expressed above are, like it or not, shared by most players. We're not talking about how it is supposed to be (i.e. everyone gets along, guilded and unguilded players are treated with equal amounts of respect, and artifact thefts in fact never happen), but rather how it is.

 

[Maoni]

NO worries mate, I consider this as solved now, and I hope u accept my official apology for dragging this to FH.

 

[Sendraks]

oki because of a few idiots on alb its necessity do distrust all others if you think that way and all others i know why the climate on alb excalibur is that bad and nobody help each other

You look stronger in a debate if you don't accuse others of making gross generalisations and then make them yourself.

 

[Maoni]

btw sorry wrong guildtag there not kotl ofc....was knights of the round table

nvm tho its all sorted now.

 

[Whiner]

You look stronger in a debate if you don't accuse others of making gross generalisations and then make them yourself.

True, and i agree. I think Arinvan does find *some* nice people ingame

Actually, I think you will find that it is you who are whining, and furthermore that the sentiments I expressed above are, like it or not, shared by most players.

So sing along with the mob then, is it ?
But i don't think you can claim those sentiments are shared by most players, it's a sentiment at least you think is shared by the majority of gamers....

 

[Heath]

NO worries mate, I consider this as solved now, and I hope u accept my official apology for dragging this to FH.

And...as before..a thread like this has started with no need for it to be here. I wish people would wait to see what happens instead of coming straight to FH and whining like a baby. And Maoni, YOU consider this as solved !!!....there was nothing to solve in the first place, a bit of patience would have saved a lot of hassle for all. Next time, think before you post.
If it was me, you could ram your apology for giving me a bad name and making others distrust me. Far too many people are jumping on the "He stole the arti, no excuses, no reason....burn them" bandwagon. The sooner it stops the better. Rightnow it (if you think it is a problem) and leave it to them. Do not air your dirty laundry in public.
Nuff said......now get this thread locked, bolted and tucked away in the "Should never have been here" drawer.

Also, just noticed your other post while i was typing, at least get the right guild...you have now named 2 guilds here...even though the guy was unguilded. Why ??. No reason to name an old guild. Pm the GM and see if alts are still in....if not, do not name guilds. It breeds nothing but bad feelings for all.

 

[Arinvan]

Actually, I think you will find that it is you who are whining, and furthermore that the sentiments I expressed above are, like it or not, shared by most players. We're not talking about how it is supposed to be (i.e. everyone gets along, guilded and unguilded players are treated with equal amounts of respect, and artifact thefts in fact never happen), but rather how it is.

call it whining if you like i call it defend myself i feeled like someone spoke about me since im unguilded, im sure you wouldnt like it yourself to put into one box with artifactrobbers - even so in this case it wasnt rob just some inet problem at all it prove we are not all bad and im happy about that - But ofc you right im unguilded i have to shut up and steal artifact because its what ppl suggest me to do. But ofc i just whining i may not defend myself!
And yes you are right: a few / most / many player think like that . its the way it is and its SAD !!

You look stronger in a debate if you don't accuse others of making gross generalisations and then make them yourself.

oki you right there too i was generalsing there too sry let me say it again:
oki you think because of a few idiots on alb (there are some everywhere) its necessity do distrust all other players if you think that way and a few/most/many others i know why the climate on alb excalibur gone worse recently (i thikn it done) and it become more and more rare to help each other

 

[ye-roon]

well,

nm this thread close it. he came back, soz for saying those things, but it was verry convinient that ld.

 

[Heath]

well,

nm this thread close it. he came back, soz for saying those things, but it was verry convinient that ld.

FFS..read what you are saying...how on earth can a LD at that point in the game be "convenient". Just imagine the blind panic that was prolly going through his head. Just picked up the arti and POW...LD. I am sure he didnt sit there and go "Well, how convenient was that, chortle chortle". Wake up, if it was you would you have done the same. He was prolly thinking of all the others, like you, who thought he did it on purpose. And from his post...the first chance he got on he contacted somebody. As you say though....get this thread closed before more people make stupid comments like "all sorted, but isnt it strange it happened". These posts do nothing to help the player, the realm and the game.

 

[Maoni]

And...as before..a thread like this has started with no need for it to be here. I wish people would wait to see what happens instead of coming straight to FH and whining like a baby. And Maoni, YOU consider this as solved !!!....there was nothing to solve in the first place, a bit of patience would have saved a lot of hassle for all. Next time, think before you post.
If it was me, you could ram your apology for giving me a bad name and making others distrust me. Far too many people are jumping on the "He stole the arti, no excuses, no reason....burn them" bandwagon. The sooner it stops the better. Rightnow it (if you think it is a problem) and leave it to them. Do not air your dirty laundry in public.
Nuff said......now get this thread locked, bolted and tucked away in the "Should never have been here" drawer.

Also, just noticed your other post while i was typing, at least get the right guild...you have now named 2 guilds here...even though the guy was unguilded. Why ??. No reason to name an old guild. Pm the GM and see if alts are still in....if not, do not name guilds. It breeds nothing but bad feelings for all.

Gotta love righteous people...you dont know half the story....how dare you come on here and judge me like this. We did gave the dude time, we did try contact other ppl to see if we can get in hold of him...we did our best, and after 20 minutes of nothing I posted on FH (and yes with some embarraasing errors). And yes the matter is solved!! Lotriot and i have talked and so on, no reason for you to come on here like you do.
And yes, this thread needs to be closed!

 

[Heath]

Why no reason for me to come on, after all..this is a PUBLIC thread. I just posted my view of how i hate this sort of post. Name and shame if you have proof, otherwise...follow correct channels...RightNow. And i do agree with you on something BOTH your posts need to be closed...as i said on the other one, YOU have the power to close them, speak to the mods and ask them. Easy as pie really. And, i am not righteous, i think first..and, if i dont know half the story...why didnt you post the full story instead of half of it ??..100% details do normally help.

 

[Maoni]

Why no reason for me to come on, after all..this is a PUBLIC thread. I just posted my view of how i hate this sort of post. Name and shame if you have proof, otherwise...follow correct channels...RightNow. And i do agree with you on something BOTH your posts need to be closed...as i said on the other one, YOU have the power to close them, speak to the mods and ask them. Easy as pie really. And, i am not righteous, i think first..and, if i dont know half the story...why didnt you post the full story instead of half of it ??..100% details do normally help.

already done that, and yes a public post, still you need to get all facts before telling what to do, but thats my opinion...you got yours I got mine and tbh i cba to argue about it.
I give you the luxury to make a final comment to me if u want, but expect no reply.

 

[Heath]

already done that, and yes a public post, still you need to get all facts before telling what to do, but thats my opinion...you got yours I got mine and tbh i cba to argue about it.
I give you the luxury to make a final comment to me if u want, but expect no reply.

Okies..1 last reply (my luxury) don't moan to somebody about not having all the facts if you are not gonna post. I can only work off what i read, which i assume to be the full facts. Not the "Facts sorted to suit my case" facts.

No more from me either.

 

[Flimgoblin]

locked at thread starters request