DoD needs work BADLY.

[Stazbumpa]

It may be the best WW2 shooter on the market but it has serious flaws. Lag is getting stupid now, I believe BW has reduced its servers to 12 man servers to combat this. Fair enough, but 6 a side on dog1 is not much fun to be honest. DoD is a game that needs at least 8 a side, preferably 10.
Also the weapons are getting silly. I think Throd mentioned this before, in that you can cap someone square in the chest who is literally right in front of you and they dont go down. I have plugged several people, with various weapons, that never even saw me and they didnt die.
Spawn camping is also rife, although not a bad as before.

Finally, and this is particular to the dog1 map although it may apply to others, the scoring sytem needs seriously looking at as, in the case of dog1, the allies finally manage to clear the Nazi defenses and only got a pissy 50 points for it. We conquered their defenses twice during the 30 minutes the map was playing and still lost to them by about 60 odd points.

I like DoD, but I've just played the worst game of it in my life and all these points have come to the fore as a result. For the record I didn't play badly, my tactics were sound enough its just the game mechanics kept failing (like huge pings spikes whenever I creep round a corner or the aforementioned I-shot-you-and-you're-not-dead syndrome).

And ffs, somebody sort out the cross hair system coz its fucking useless as it is. I swear there is a cross hair colour change cheat floating about.

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[killermarc]

Well the lag issue is know about and his being fixed in 2.1 which is due out soon.

so server should go back to ahveing 20+ players on again

also dog1 is a poor map and had lots of compliants about the objectives, maybe evening making the flags permanent caps, so the axis can't recap them, until the allies have capped them all, that should been the points will be a bit more even

 

[old.ignus]

yup the game is heavily flawed, but still at least its not as bad as counter shite or team fortress crap.

 

[Stazbumpa]

Counter Strike is fine, you just need a better ping than average 56k too be really competitive.

I still love DoD, just be concentrating on CS a bit more now.

 

[ShockingAlberto]

I like the old DoD scoring. I'm not totally sure whether it was intentional, or a bug, but you lost a point every time you died.

What it emant was that everyone had pish scores, so people focused more on having fun that trying to get frags.

 

[throdgrain]

The game IS flawed atm its true
But have paitence ! These problems are to be addressed in 2.1 , so they say, and arnt quite as bad as you might think. The shooting people in the chest bug is wierd I know , but Ive kinda got used to it tbh, and now it doesnt seem noticable.
Dog 1 can be a nightmare if you charge up the beach without any sniper support I know, but Ive tried being sniper hiding under the beach defences by the shoreline, and shot many of the nazi'z from down there, allowing the allies to get to the clifftops. Dont forget you get 10 points for blowing the wire too, a relatively easy job
i played a dog1 today, and the allies WON lol I know that seems mad but there you are. Played one the other day too !
The map I really dont like atm is that avalanche map, a nazi grenade spamming map if ever there was one. But anzio and thunder are awsome imo, and dont have much lag.The only map that really suffers i cant remember the name of, but has a castle in the middle of it ??
And how about that map where you look up at the bridge as a nazi with the allies looking down at you, and a couple of me109's fly past ?? RtCW my arse ..... Stick with it a bit staz and ignus, I bet it 'l get better

 

[Embattle]

When playing we talked about dog 1, it totally sucks. While I was having a little rant someone said well this is how it was.....i replied bollocks since in the real event the allies attacked with more troops and there weren't little flags every where.

Any how, by the time the allies have got some hold on the main land they will normally be behind by 60 odd points and its also very hard to capture the whole map, I've seen it twice and that was in the same game with us allies working very well together.

Also the fact the Axis have a player who can carry 4 grenades is a pain as when pushed back at our spawn, as an allie, you just can't break out because they just throw gren after gren.

 

[old.D0LLySh33p]

This thread is putting me off ever playing DOD...

Thoddy how BAD was I today!

 

[Embattle]

It also has problems with making teams even...normally every one tries to join Axis on dog1 and the server will allow 9 vs 7.....silly.

 

[old.Psy2k]

People are encouraged to use ANTI-RECOIL HACKS because of the OTT recoil in DoD 2.0

 

[throdgrain]

I dont think the recoil is ott at all . To say it encourages people to cheat is faintly ridiculous I'm afraid.The point of the huge recoil on the mg is to STOP idiots running around killing all before them with it, so they have to lie down to use it. The point of the recoil cheat is exactly the reverse ffs.
I also think dog1 isnt as a bad as you say Embattle, but you do
have to get used to it. Me I think the grenade spamming on avalanche is far worse.
Oh and I personally like the cross hair system i think its pretty realistic, like Operation Flashpoint.
Ah, and yes dolly you were crap, but at least youre good sometimes I seem to be crap all the time before 10.00pm .Before that people just keep TALKING TO ME !!

 

[old.D0LLySh33p]

I wub talking to you.

Puts meh da zone!!!

Heh, I talk to Jobs and put him off his game. Actually, come to think about it... I talk to pretty much everyone I know on the Publics and put them off their games

 

[throdgrain]

lol no m8 I meant annoying people at home, you know wife family, freinds etc
"Ew what colour shall we paint the bedroom?? " etc.
"Im tring to kill someone with a glock ffs!! "

 

[Stazbumpa]

I like the iron sights as opposed to cross hair system, but I can't see the fecking thing. Make them a slightly brighter colour so they dont get lost on the background and you have a better gameplay vs realism trade off.

Also MG's do actually spray like that IRL.
I've had first hand experience of this

 

[old.ignus]

but the fact that you can fire one of these MGs standing up and still retain the ability to walk is crap. Also they really want to speed up the deploying of the machine gun as it takes way to long.
The sniper is the worse offender of all, it is without a doubt the worst weapon in the game, the rifle itself is horribly slow and its about as powerful as a peashooter, its only good point is the scope but it seems as if its being held by an alcaholic, whether you're stood up, kneeling down or prone it holds about as steady as a ship in a storm, and anything less than a headshot isn't worth it. plus the fact that you don't get any grenades is just shit.

 

[old.D0LLySh33p]

Originally posted by throdgrain
lol no m8 I meant annoying people at home, you know wife family, freinds etc
"Ew what colour shall we paint the bedroom?? " etc.
"Im tring to kill someone with a glock ffs!! "

i wiuby ur wifeyih

 

[throdgrain]

what is biscuit colour ffs ?? a hobnob ? sigh......

 

[old.D0LLySh33p]

it the colorr rof my jisms#

 

[Embattle]

Originally posted by throdgrain
Me I think the grenade spamming on avalanche is far worse.

That was the map I was thinking of

 

[Mr Flibble]

what I'd like to know is how come even with the massive recoil on the mg, if I'm strolling around as an infantry blokey and come across an enemy running with his mg, I'm basically a dead man?

 

[throdgrain]

Tell you what , last night I popped onto one of the BW servers for a quick game. The map had just started, dog1, and I was allie (suprise).
So, I pick sniper, hide under a sea defence by the shore line, and kill 3 or 4 defenders.Note lying down the scope hardly moves at all, is totally accurate and all were one shot kills. Then I gets up and legs it to a bangalore, picks it up and blows the wire defence. (10 extra points to me btw ). Then we allies enter the compound and I get killed, come back as a sargeant, with a carbine. Our team takes the flags, remember it takes 2 team members for each flag.
The game then restarts for stage 2, me now with a tompson for closer range shooting. The allies take the remaining 2 flags eventually, score is now 179 to the allies and 117 to the axis.My personal score is 29-11 or something. Then I go to bed lol.
The point of all this ? It was actually quite easy, i scorred the highest on my team, but 2 of the axis scored higher than me ,so it wasnt n00b defending, it was just easier than you'd expect.Work together, and use the guns as they are meant to be used would be the moral I think

 

[throdgrain]

Originally posted by Mr Flibble
what I'd like to know is how come even with the massive recoil on the mg, if I'm strolling around as an infantry blokey and come across an enemy running with his mg, I'm basically a dead man?

sigh, just to make it clear, people are using the no recoil cheat !!

 

[Stazbumpa]

I would like to make it clear that Throd has made it clear that it is clear that the enemy is clearly using the no-recoil cheat.

Clearly.



Will there be anti-cheat for DoD anytime soon then, or is no-one bothered?

 

[throdgrain]

LOL

Well they say 2.1 is going to sort the recoil hacks, though we'll see no doubt, and they also say 2.1 is nearly there, same thing i guess .As far as specific anti-cheats for DoD , ive no idea, maybe it goes with the HL thing ?

 

[old.ignus]

today the allies defeated us on overlord, why, not because they worked together, or combined their efforts, no it was because they out numbered us in players and still the allied teams average ping was lower than ours, something really has to be done about the team thing, esecially at the weekend when all the stupid drug infested public school kids who have yet to learn the abilty to count in numbers (because they're too busy counting in ounces no doubt) I'm thinking of adding a script where I get a key that says "Teams FFS" as I'm sick of typing it.

 

[throdgrain]

I would have thought 8-6 in favour of the allies was about right on dog 1 meself m8