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Eeben

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censi said:
u dont, others do.

everybody can win if they use all ra's, artis an mls in 1 fight.. that does not make the class overpowert imo.. an yes maybe rr10 mincers win most of the fights but so does other rr10 classes...

maybe because i lose most of the fights is because almost everytime i meet you im on 10% an you kill me :wanker: only had 1 fight vs you an i got ownt yes but was in crap sc atm :p would really like to fight you 1 vs 1 with my new template :touch:
 

Drungan

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you still don't get it eeben, do you?

ppl like alpha showed that a clever played, rred, mled and toaed mincer is pratically unkillable in a 1vs1. the situation didn't change much since of, it's not only the "i win"-buttons you sure share with other (stealthers) that make you oped in that matter, it's also the additional "i won't lose"-buttons that makes mincers unkillable and thus overpowered.

if you get killed on your mincer in a 1vs1 it's your own fault, as you play an "outstanding" class.
as i write this i get the feeling that it's pointless to even start to argue with you about this, as you won't get all the hints anyways, so i'm out.
 

DrunkSkunk

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Drungan said:
if you get killed on your mincer in a 1vs1 it's your own fault

go solo rvr with a RR4mincer in toa gear, without ml's.. wanna see how much fights you win?
 

Keffo

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And I wasnt there either!

but that's some massive damage in 1 screenshot there from pain...about the sum of a mainhand slash inf hit?
:)
 

Noctis

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Nice screenies of <Pain> there :cheers: Tbh Censi is the 1 that sucks considering the char, the toys and the rr u have to your disposal... And yet u zerg aswell as everybody else :) So go whank that chicken of yours and STFU :)

Best regards <Pain>
 

Eeben

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Drungan said:
you still don't get it eeben, do you?

ppl like alpha showed that a clever played, rred, mled and toaed mincer is pratically unkillable in a 1vs1. the situation didn't change much since of, it's not only the "i win"-buttons you sure share with other (stealthers) that make you oped in that matter, it's also the additional "i won't lose"-buttons that makes mincers unkillable and thus overpowered.

if you get killed on your mincer in a 1vs1 it's your own fault, as you play an "outstanding" class.
as i write this i get the feeling that it's pointless to even start to argue with you about this, as you won't get all the hints anyways, so i'm out.

what you are saying is you need high rr, toaed an mled to be unkillable.. not every mincer is rr11... a rr4 fully toaed an mlt mincer can maybe win everytime if he got every arti up an every ra so you can win 1 fight every 15 min but what about the next fight ??

ps: how does this uber overpowert class kill a sm who is using moc???
 

illu

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Eeben said:
what you are saying is you need high rr, toaed an mled to be unkillable.. not every mincer is rr11... a rr4 fully toaed an mlt mincer can maybe win everytime if he got every arti up an every ra so you can win 1 fight every 15 min but what about the next fight ??

ps: how does this uber overpowert class kill a sm who is using moc???

All I know about Mincers is that if they don't stun you (you purge), they mez you. If the mez somehow breaks and they are losing, they SoS.
And I am sure that they take some bashing, with or without artis, and they have IP which is nice too.
They are the ultimate duo partner for the alb stealthers, and they also put up a good fight solo, even when you manage to PA CD them because of their poor stealth.

And not sure how a Mincer would kill a SM who is MoCcing as I've never played the class, but I'm guessing they start fighting, the SM MoC's, Mincer SoS's out of range and counts to 30, comes back and Mez's SM+Pet, then maybe stun SM? and beat them down? No idea tbh :>

I think this thread has gone off-topic some - it seems to be a /nerf Mincer thread at the moment ^^

Oli - Illu
 

Drungan

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i was referring mainly to the possibilities you got compared to other classes and especially aiming at you for pretending to not play an overpowered class.

especially i was aiming at the fact that you have a hard time "owning" a mincer who has purge2/sos. if you blow this RAs everytime for offensive things it's your thing, but you can aswell save them them for defensive measures combined with instastun/mezz, which leaves you in fact with the possibility to avoid death in the most situations (if you want to :p).

don't even get me started on things like IP and the two very good ML lines you can choose from, rather try to see it from the other side, yet you fail to do.

[edit]:
anyway getting offtopic with this, if you wanna discuss mincer stuff with me, feel free to PM
 

Akyma

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well, long time i dont see any SB zerg, but yesterday i count 14 ranger camping DC bridge :puke: , also easy meet with a NS FG with a rr11 in ...(they allways come out at 3-4 in the morning)
About albs.. well, i allways say, when u choice alb/exc to start play u lost 90% of brain. In 3 years of game albs zerged 24/7, soo nothing new. All relic + 3 to 1 is alb skill. (now whine me gimps, but tell me that is no true ;p )

Censi, im sure u dont like get zerged 24/7, im sure some sbs r bored of get zerged too. If u want play 1 Vs 1 only way is have lot of lucky, irc meet or play at 6-7 in morning. Is patetic, but is true =/
 

Eeben

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Drungan said:
i was referring mainly to the possibilities you got compared to other classes and especially aiming at you for pretending to not play an overpowered class.

especially i was aiming at the fact that you have a hard time "owning" a mincer who has purge2/sos. if you blow this RAs everytime for offensive things it's your thing, but you can aswell save them them for defensive measures combined with instastun/mezz, which leaves you in fact with the possibility to avoid death in the most situations (if you want to :p).

don't even get me started on things like IP and the two very good ML lines you can choose from, rather try to see it from the other side, yet you fail to do.

if you try an read my post i have said a few times mincers are op but not like you trying to make it out here..... I know a mincer can pwn with all he's items op.. but if they are down an not everyone have sos (waste at low rr imo) you get ownt.. but guess this will never end because you got the idea every mincer is op an can pwn everybody at anytime wich is not true.. mincer very op if they got high rr but at low rr its not easy to solo... :touch:
 

Mastade

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Akyma said:
Im a warlock with strong morals!!

Aint it funny, no matter what you say, when you say it or how you say it.. no1 will ever take you serious.. as you are just another warlock? :D:D
 

Eeben

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Akyma said:
well, long time i dont see any SB zerg, but yesterday i count 14 ranger camping DC bridge :puke: , also easy meet with a NS FG with a rr11 in ...(they allways come out at 3-4 in the morning)
About albs.. well, i allways say, when u choice alb/exc to start play u lost 90% of brain. In 3 years of game albs zerged 24/7, soo nothing new. All relic + 3 to 1 is alb skill. (now whine me gimps, but tell me that is no true ;p )

Censi, im sure u dont like get zerged 24/7, im sure some sbs r bored of get zerged too. If u want play 1 Vs 1 only way is have lot of lucky, irc meet or play at 6-7 in morning. Is patetic, but is true =/

but you are normal when you play a warlock...
 

Akyma

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Mastade said:
Aint it funny, no matter what you say, when you say it or how you say it.. no1 will ever take you serious.. as you are just another warlock? :D:D
I know, but dont realy care ;p
Like more be a fucking OP WL that a gimp zergling. WL is easy way to do rvr. I like play healer, but is a pain make a groups... each lap u need find new members cause ppl cba get wiped by zergs.
 

Akyma

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Eeben said:
but you are normal when you play a warlock...
WL is mid OP char, albs have mincer, sorc, caby, merc.... I dont see albs stop play his OP chars, why i need stop play my OP char?
 

Eeben

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Akyma said:
WL is mid OP char, albs have mincer, sorc, caby, merc.... I dont see albs stop play his OP chars, why i need stop play my OP char?

aye.. only op class mid got is wl.. healers,sharmans,bd's an sm's really need some more love...
 

Eeben

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Akyma said:
I know, but dont realy care ;p
Like more be a fucking OP WL that a gimp zergling. WL is easy way to do rvr. I like play healer, but is a pain make a groups... each lap u need find new members cause ppl cba get wiped by zergs.

maybe because you suck at playing healer you get wiped everyrun an ppl leave :touch:
 

Akyma

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Eeben said:
maybe because you suck at playing healer you get wiped everyrun an ppl leave :touch:
duno, ppl say: "bah, fucking albs, cba get zerged" and "fucking adders noobs"... they can lie too :m00:
 

censi

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Like more be a fucking OP WL that a gimp zergling

any who plays retard mode purley because its retard mode is a moron. Theres lots of them out there.

The side consequence is anything u kill is pretty close to worthless in terms of achievement and testing yourself, which is where the most fun is to be had from daoc. You just need to stick with a class that requires you to put time and effort into before you start getting the gains back.

imo anyway.

but anyway we shouldnt hate the players just curse mythic for their fooked up balancing skills. (your generic persona forces you to milk this rather than make a stand against it though which dont help)
 

Keffo

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The thing is with censi, he has so many tounges up his ass and sharing his own in so many cracks, he think he is good or the ones he mention are good.

We mentioned censi is a tough cookie...the conclusion we made is that he has alot of tools and toys atm. and playing an IP class. not his playing skills.

It's like mardi gras fighting censi ...you never know what tit he'll pop next.
 

Vodkafairy

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Akyma said:
duno, ppl say: "bah, fucking albs, cba get zerged" and "fucking adders noobs"... they can lie too :m00:

guess they lie then, you're rly funny on healer. using instamez 8v1 after i already sat down with a zerk on me, after you lost mezz 2 times
 

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The thing is with censi, he has so many tounges up his ass and sharing his own in so many cracks, he think he is good or the ones he mention are good.

We mentioned censi is a tough cookie...the conclusion we made is that he has alot of tools and toys atm. and playing an IP class. not his playing skills.

Running around with a fotm vamp I get to see a lot of stealthers (litterally).

It's very obvious who zergs and who doesn't. I've seen Censi zerg sometimes, but I've also seen him alone a lot too, which is more than I can say for anyone from your guild.

There's a few SBs and Hunters out there that are always a challenge to fight and they can hold their own vs just about anyone 1v1, strangely none them are in Pain, why could that be?
 

Alein-Pain

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Mirt said:
Running around with a fotm vamp I get to see a lot of stealthers (litterally).

It's very obvious who zergs and who doesn't. I've seen Censi zerg sometimes, but I've also seen him alone a lot too, which is more than I can say for anyone from your guild.

There's a few SBs and Hunters out there that are always a challenge to fight and they can hold their own vs just about anyone 1v1, strangely none them are in Pain, why could that be?


here we go again ppl saying Grimster never solo's thats a not true and u know it he solo's more then any other player i know so kindly f..k off with that shit oki


and that shit about pain not any good solo how come that Forb runs or vanish from Nefastus but he cant admit it and how about me cant i solo hell on a good day i can kill allmost anybody <---SEE allmost anybody but as allways u are ALL abunch of lieing hypocrits
 

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Alein-Pain said:
here we go again ppl saying Grimster never solo's thats a not true and u know it he solo's more then any other player i know so kindly f..k off with that shit oki


and that shit about pain not any good solo how come that Forb runs or vanish from Nefastus but he cant admit it and how about me cant i solo hell on a good day i can kill allmost anybody <---SEE allmost anybody but as allways u are ALL abunch of lieing hypocrits

:worthy: the almighty dwarf has spoken :worthy:
 

Eeben

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Alein-Pain said:
here we go again ppl saying Grimster never solo's thats a not true and u know it he solo's more then any other player i know so kindly f..k off with that shit oki


soloing green mobs dont count
 

Keffo

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Mirt said:
Running around with a fotm vamp I get to see a lot of stealthers (litterally).

It's very obvious who zergs and who doesn't. I've seen Censi zerg sometimes, but I've also seen him alone a lot too, which is more than I can say for anyone from your guild.

There's a few SBs and Hunters out there that are always a challenge to fight and they can hold their own vs just about anyone 1v1, strangely none them are in Pain, why could that be?

"which is more than I can say for anyone from your guild. "

How long have you played and what realm do you play? please play your little fucked up vampiir and stfu you fucking ****. ok?

You know jack shit about the mid stealthers atm.

I am sure I can hold my own vs you and your family...just give me some nice tools. I am a vamp Iam so fucking good.

fuckface.
 

censi

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We mentioned censi is a tough cookie...the conclusion we made is that he has alot of tools and toys atm. and playing an IP class. not his playing skills.

It's like mardi gras fighting censi ...you never know what tit he'll pop next.

:clap: :clap: :clap:

thats a beut

we had some good tussels over the years grimster. We both saviour the prospect of planting each other face down and we both know that if we aint on our game then its lights out...

gotta make use of those timers because without them i got jack shit.. the one thing I will never feel guilty of though is being overpowered because my class is one of the weakest in the game...

the down side of being timer based is also when your timers are down you struggle V anything and everything. It aint all fun and games playing a ranger I can assure you.
 

Keffo

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censi said:
:clap: :clap: :clap:

thats a beut

we had some good tussels over the years grimster. We both saviour the prospect of planting each other face down and we both know that if we aint on our game then its lights out...

gotta make use of those timers because without them i got jack shit.. the one thing I will never feel guilty of though is being overpowered because my class is one of the weakest in the game...

the down side of being timer based is also when your timers are down you struggle V anything and everything. It aint all fun and games playing a ranger I can assure you.

Get some more toys.

or...get a tounge opereation for your toys.

I rest a sure, that people that played long enough don't really think of you as the kick ass ranger on excalibur.

You don't impress us longtimers. so stfu and make a new video using none of your toys on ppl lower than rr 6, noob.
 

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