Do you smoke?

[Rhana]

Now adays, you can not smoke in resturants, pubs, clubs ect in Sweden.. Defo one of the best laws made lately

 

[Thadius]

And the millions they'll save in NHS healthcare?

Generates more money in taxes for the NHS

 

[Bugz]

Never smoked, don't intend to either.

And as for Marc's question - No i wouldn't kiss a hot girl if she smoked.

 

[Elkie]

Im sorry you can call me what ya want i couldnt give 2 shits but if you smoke thats your fucking problem, whats fun about putting a white stick in your mouth? People who smoke do it for the simple fact the socialise with other people (or if younger to look cool) sorry but smokeing is just silly and kills you faster.


suck happy comment

 

[noblok]

George W Bush springs to mind, along with most other politicians, burocrats, managers ...

Then ... alcohol, mobile phones, nuclear power, (sex?), ...

ah nm I can see I'm on to a loser here =/

As I'm not quite sure whether that last sentence is ironic or not, here goes :

George W Bush isn't directly harmful to anyone's health. Some of his policies are, but those can't be classed as "useles", or at least they shouldn't. Mobile phones are useful. Sex isn't hazardous to a third person's health, unless it's rape. Nuclear power is useful too and I don't think it's hazardous to a third person's health, unless something goes wrong.

Alcohol is useles and may be hazardous to a third person's health, but not necessarily. If you harm someone while under the effects of alcohol (or if you take a huge risk - i.e. drunk driving) you will be fined and/or prosecuted.

 

[Cazedy]

Now adays, you can not smoke in resturants, pubs, clubs ect in Sweden.. Defo one of the best laws made lately

Yeh realy good law... Nowdays when u go out clubing instead of the smoke smell u get the nice fart smell, burp smell, puke smell, sweat smell, fuck me its so damn disgusting :<< Dont know what turns u on but its not realy a turnon for me. I rather take the smokesmell anyday of the week, and this is from a non smoker talking about clubs. (Resturants etc i can understand cuase of the children thats involved).

 

[Penguin]

Generates more money in taxes for the NHS

I don't know the figures. I guess with such high taxes on cigarettes but still smoking causes alot of health problems and passive smoking just adds to the problem.

Besides, a more healthy work force as a result of less smoke would be more productive. Then as people live longer as a result of more healthy lives they can work for longer and it's even better for the economy

 

[Outlander]

I like a nice fat cigar occasionally, apart from that no I dont smoke.

I might smoke a guy if th eright one came along.

 

[Thadius]

I like a nice fat cigar occasionally, apart from that no I dont smoke.

I might smoke a guy if th eright one came along.

*unzips trousers*

Come on then!

 

[Thadius]

I don't know the figures. I guess with such high taxes on cigarettes but still smoking causes alot of health problems and passive smoking just adds to the problem.

Besides, a more healthy work force as a result of less smoke would be more productive. Then as people live longer as a result of more healthy lives they can work for longer and it's even better for the economy

A lot more stressed by any chance?

As for passive smoking, thats just bollocks. You get more chemicals for living next to a motorway or a main road. Yet government wants to build more motorways?

 

[Bugz]

A lot more stressed by any chance?

As for passive smoking, thats just bollocks. You get more chemicals for living next to a motorway or a main road. Yet government wants to build more motorways?

That's not the point.

The point is, someone elses decision to affect their own life can affect your life too because they feel the need to smoke in public.

 

[Chronictank]

A lot more stressed by any chance?

As for passive smoking, thats just bollocks. You get more chemicals for living next to a motorway or a main road. Yet government wants to build more motorways?

back to the useful debate,
motorways = useful
smoking = pointless in every way

thats aside the fact that smoking+motorway is more unhealthy than just motorway no?

On a side note i have nothing whatsoever against people who smoke, provided they are smoking responsibly.
The new law wont affect responsible people to a great extent as they are the ones who go outside/smoking areas to light up

 

[noblok]

Smoking where it affects other people can't be compared to motorways. It can probably be best compared to randomly hitting people (not too hard, but hard enough to notice). Not useful, not harming when done once, probably not punishable by law, yet bad form, annoying and can cause damage if done repeatedly.

 

[Penguin]

A lot more stressed by any chance?

As for passive smoking, thats just bollocks. You get more chemicals for living next to a motorway or a main road. Yet government wants to build more motorways?

I survive without smoking. There are other ways to release stress

 

[tris-]

smoking = pointless in every way

indeed, that 3 quid what ever they tax on every pack is totally useless.

 

[Levin]

indeed, that 3 quid what ever they tax on every pack is totally useless.

Indeed indeed, since that same pack probably costs society 4 quid in smoking related health care.

 

[Equador]

Personally I still think smoking totally sucks. Now, if all smokers did it without ruining other people's lungs along with their own, I truly wouldn't care. But as said before, when I go out with friends it's hard to find them through the thick fog in the clubs! And the day after I don't get a hangover because of the alcohol, but the fog that has stuck to my clothes!

 

[Chronictank]

indeed, that 3 quid what ever they tax on every pack is totally useless.

if everyone in the uk stopped smoking the difference on the whole would be insignificant and not noticed

Q. Smokers already pay more tax than it costs to treat smoking on the NHS.

A. This may be true - tobacco taxation raises revenue of £9.5bn compared with the £1.7bn needed to treat smoking-related illness[ii]. However, this comparison is not particularly valid. Tobacco tax is not intended to be a down-payment of the cost to the NHS of dealing with smoking-related illness. There are two main reasons why UK taxes on tobacco are relatively high: a price incentive to persuade people to give up, and to raise taxes from a source which has relatively little effect on the economy.

In any event, the cost of smoking to the economy is much wider than simply the cost to the NHS. It is estimated that 50 million working days are lost a year to tobacco related illness – about 1% of the total working days. A Canadian study found that smoking breaks cost $2175 (Canadian) per smoker per year (around £1000). Smoking causes fires and accidents (for example the King’s Cross fire which killed 31 people). The costs are not always purely financial – there is also the “social cost” of 120,000 deaths per year. This is an extremely difficult cost to quantify in financial terms. Government cost-benefit analysis for road safety assumes a cost of £800,000 for each road accident death. If this figure were used for deaths due to smoking, the total figure would be £96 billion per year, almost a third of all Government spending. This is an idea of the cost to society as a whole of premature deaths due to smoking.


In addition, if less money was raised from tobacco taxation as a result of fewer people smoking, the extra money which smokers would have as a result would be spent elsewhere in the economy, and tax would be levied on this expenditure. The Exchequer would therefore not necessarily lose out through a reduction in the number of smokers.

 

[tris-]

how do you know the money would be spent else where?
not everything we buy is legal and taxed.

fake dvds, drugs, illegal gambling?

you get the picture right

 

[Chronictank]

how do you know the money would be spent else where?
not everything we buy is legal and taxed.

fake dvds, drugs, illegal gambling?

you get the picture right

so your saying you would be buying almost everything illegally if you didnt smoke?

 

[tris-]

no. im saying if people had extra money, how can you say for certain they would put it back into the economy?

i know for sure if the tax went down, i would accumulate my money to buy weed with it, seen as i cant afford at the minute

 

[Chronictank]

no. im saying if people had extra money, how can you say for certain they would put it back into the economy?

i know for sure if the tax went down, i would accumulate my money to buy weed with it, seen as i cant afford at the minute

not everyone is going to get stoned just because they have the money too
in fact i would go as far as to say the majority of people wouldn't be investing their money into something illegal whatever that may be.

 

[Dandare]

Generates more money in taxes for the NHS

Very true mate sadly, last time I looked into this a few years ago smokers generated around £743 million a year in taxes from smokers, don't quote me on this as it may have gone up or down.
I have smoked for 17 years so just proves how much cash I have wasted not to mention what I have paid in taxes on it. I'm not bias in any way as smoking is a disgusting habit, but one that is very difficult to give up once you have started, and before I get people saying it's all about willpower and stuff to give up, I may remind you we are all different in our addictive personnalites.
As for the banning in public....I do think it's a joke really.
I would'nt condone blowing smoke in peoples faces and admit that some people are very rude and self centred in there smoking habits.
Reason why I think it's a joke?=The british goverment have happily accepted over the years how much they get from taxation from people smoking, until Mr.Blair came into power and now it's all too PC.
In my opinion should'nt we be concentrating on how many immigrants we are taking in or why the NHS has'nt got enough funding?
Than someone walking down the plaza in Town with a cigerette that is acutlly funding the NHS in the first place?

 

[Coldbeard]

Take a smoke now and then when I am at parties and stuff.

 

[Thadius]

15 people with a severe lack of funny

 

[Rhana]

Yeh realy good law... Nowdays when u go out clubing instead of the smoke smell u get the nice fart smell, burp smell, puke smell, sweat smell, fuck me its so damn disgusting :<< Dont know what turns u on but its not realy a turnon for me. I rather take the smokesmell anyday of the week, and this is from a non smoker talking about clubs. (Resturants etc i can understand cuase of the children thats involved).

Well, we are diferent, I see that. But I tell you this, I rather kiss a girl on a club that smells a bit of sweat, then one that taste like a ashtray... You know, onely unclean sweat or sweat from someone that havent drank enough (NOT alchol) smells bad.. I say, there isnt mutch that smells sexier then a woman that have been out in the sun..

 

[tris-]

not everyone is going to get stoned just because they have the money too
in fact i would go as far as to say the majority of people wouldn't be investing their money into something illegal whatever that may be.

i know. what im saying is how can you say the money will go back into the economy, when we really dont know?

im sure out of all the population there must be more than just me who would do something like that.

 

[Cazedy]

Well, we are diferent, I see that. But I tell you this, I rather kiss a girl on a club that smells a bit of sweat, then one that taste like a ashtray... You know, onely unclean sweat or sweat from someone that havent drank enough (NOT alchol) smells bad.. I say, there isnt mutch that smells sexier then a woman that have been out in the sun..

That girl that would taste like an ashtray would taste the same anyway, cuase even if there's no smoking aloud they still have smokerooms/smoke place aranged in all clubs i go to atleast, so u dont rly stop ppl from smoking.

Dont know what ur on about with the only unclean ppl/ppl that dont drink enough smells, could be true but that dont rly have anything to do with this cuase it still smells like shit out there anyway.

Cant see what ur on about with girls smell good when they have been in the sun. I mean thats very individual, one girl might smell rly good where as someone else might smell like shit, so dont rly see what that have to do with anything that i said.

 

[Rhana]

That girl that would taste like an ashtray would taste the same anyway, cuase even if there's no smoking aloud they still have smokerooms/smoke place aranged in all clubs i go to atleast, so u dont rly stop ppl from smoking.

Dont know what ur on about with the only unclean ppl/ppl that dont drink enough smells, could be true but that dont rly have anything to do with this cuase it still smells like shit out there anyway.

Cant see what ur on about with girls smell good when they have been in the sun. I mean thats very individual, one girl might smell rly good where as someone else might smell like shit, so dont rly see what that have to do with anything that i said.

just as littel that I have experienced what you appearently goes through when going out.. If everything smells like shit and pjuke to you, stay at home.. You can allways sit in the smokeroom /shrugs

 

[adoNix]

If smokers just affected themselves I wouldn't mind, let people do what they want as long as they're aware of the risks. But since it affects everyone around the smoker as well...filthy habit, roll on the glorious time next year when it's finally banned in public places in the UK.

This happened last year in norway it sucked!

Yes i smoke.. i quit for 4 months.. but theni were at this party blablablabla..
So yes i started again.. but not 20 a day ;o i smoke 5-7 a day.