do you non NC really think.....

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mid_Efour

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the n00b Hammer is over powered? when its really just a rather good sweeper shotgun?

i mena i used it for a bit and i found it good but not insta win gun like yanks all moan about. i die loads to chainguns and lashers, i dunno why people say dodge the lasher bullets its impossible at 30meters to get out of the spray and pray area
 
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the_smurflord

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Like most things in most games it falls into one of two catagories....

"He beat me and I died. He must have cheated. Ban him!".

OR

"He beat me and I died. That realm / empire is overpowered, nerf them!"

NEVER

"He beat me. I will try and improve for next time."
OR
"He beat me, well played."
 
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[PS]Mung

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Now those sentiments I agree with.
Shame on Mythic for bending to satisfy those that whined the loudest.
DAOC was much better when it first started, then came the nerfs.
Those little gremlin like creatures which creep up in the night (once a month) and change little things for the worse (or for the better, depending on who you speak to).

Anyone got a picture of one of these legendary NERFS?
 
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Gabrial

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I agree in part - what is nasty is the TR striker. From what people say when Im grouped, it can lock onto a max from a distance - thats just mean:)
 
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SilverHood

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when I start shooting someone with my pulsar first, I expect them to die

when they turn around and waste me in 1 second, I get pissed off

you would be too

:rolleyes:
 
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Gekul

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The only reason I am keeping my HA cert is for the JH, and there are quite a few non-NC like me. It is overpowered.
 
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aonn_elfclomper

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well i speced HA for 3-4days and ofc nicked a few JH they are by far the best close combat weapon in the game ,,, ffs i rather fight MAXes then a guy that used an JH for 2+days

but imo Cycler are the best weapon in the game, 50 rounds,nice COF,and not to bad in close combat,costs 2 cert points that u have to spend to get AV or SA anyway
 
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Deadmanwalking

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Jackhammer is meant to be best close combat weapon.

People just moan like Smurf said.
 
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Deadmanwalking

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One thing that has yet to be said here regarding Jackhammers. LONG RANGE

You know where you fire your guns at people that are over 2 meters from you? Should try it one day
 
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bone_idle

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At range with my clycler i can kill a JH user easily. But close up as i found out yesterday the chaingun isnt all that. I did far better using the jackhammer in close combat than the chaingun.

If you keep firing the chaingun its CoF become unbelievable. I did a test up against a wall with the jackhammer and the chaingun. Whitnest by my oufit Using all the ammo in one hit. The JH's CoF didnt change one bit, But the chaingun opened up so much i hit a outfit mate standing near the wall.

Either reduce the chainguns CoF or slow down the jackhammers speed to the same as the sweeper shotgun.

I hope they dont nerf its damage. Because im using them atm :p
 
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Gekul

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Originally posted by [PS]Mung
The debate has raged for ages on the official forums.

The official word on this (as you will see) is STFU.

Sorry.
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Because there are too many posts on the subject. hmm?

One thing that has yet to be said here regarding Jackhammers. LONG RANGE

You know where you fire your guns at people that are over 2 meters from you? Should try it one day
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I have reinforced so can carry 2 weps. Try it one day.
 
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Gekul

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You have to admit, the JH is imbalanced. Maybe it does the job it's supposed to, the problem is the NC HA is the only one that does.
I have a loadout in my favourites with JH shells, a sniper rifle, and an empty weapon slot for one of the 4/5 Jackhammers I have stored in my locker. If I wasn't VS, I wouldn't do the same for a lasher.
 
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CliffyG

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The jackhammer would be fine if it wasn't so lethal at longer range.

Someone mentioned the striker, it isn't as good as people make out, firstly it fails to lock quite regularly so those missles you've launched just carry on into the terrain. Secondly it says in big letters "missile lock", if flying hit thrust or else jump behind a tree or some other cover and you'll be fine. It still takes 4 - 5 direct hits with a striker to take out a max so a max has plenty of time to kill the enemy during the rather slow rate of fire and the need to reload. It's a nice weapon but not the amazing kill machine like everyone on the PS boads keeps whining about.
 
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old.ivan

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Get surge and use Chaingun... Speed of strafe is everything and surge does not affect CoF.
 
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Deadmanwalking

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Striker takes 3 to kill a max oh and Gekul im not the one crying over dieing.
 
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old.ivan

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Striker is a support weapon, when it isnt used against vehicles it can be just as good as a sniper rifle 3 hits and one dead reinforced. Only downfall is the size of the clip really.

Phoenix however .. well lets just say its uses are limited, you always have to find cover as before your rocket hits anything you can get easily sniped/stabbed. If you happen to face a max with it at the distance of 5 meters .. you better have surge or you are dead before you finish reloading.

Simple fact is that many people tend to exaggerate or retell some blow up stories. :rolleyes:
 
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Gekul

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Originally posted by Deadmanwalking.
Striker takes 3 to kill a max oh and Gekul im not the one crying over dieing.
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Most JH users are slightly retarded, they carry only a JH which they then try to snipe with. Then they complain about it's range.
 
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Jupitus

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Originally posted by Gekul
Most JH users are slightly retarded, they carry only a JH which they then try to snipe with. Then they complain about it's range.
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Hehe - I'm a retard then :D

I don't have reinf exo though, and like to carry lots and lots of ammo, as with my aim I tend to hold the button down alot and hope for the best :p

JH overpowered? Not in my hands :D
 
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CliffyG

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Originally posted by Deadmanwalking.
Striker takes 3 to kill a max oh and Gekul im not the one crying over dieing.
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A max with no damage takes at least 4, i may be imagining the 5th but i have unloaded a full 3 on a max plenty of times without it dying. The striker will also not kill an re-inforced with 3 hits it does pitiful damage to infaltry unlike the lasher which has taken me out in 3 from about a mile away.
 
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Gekul

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Originally posted by Jupitus
Hehe - I'm a retard then :D

I don't have reinf exo though, and like to carry lots and lots of ammo, as with my aim I tend to hold the button down alot and hope for the best :p

JH overpowered? Not in my hands :D
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Carrying only a JH isn't the reason :) It's when they try and hit people from clipping range hehe.
I personally feel the JH does it's job a little too well. It's far superior to the Vanu HA. Ideally I would like to see the lashers projectiles a bit faster, as it's really not worth 4 cert points in it's current state.
 
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CliffyG

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Nope just stuck out in the open. It makes quite an effective sniper rifle.
 
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Gekul

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You probably mean the lancer. And even then, the CoF just won't allow you to snipe with it, even on someone standing still.
 
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old.pala hellraiser

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I play NC on the johari server, I got a Jackhammer and I really didn't like it. In very close combat its great, but even from medium range it sucks. I actually prefer the sweeper shotgun over the jackhammer it seems more accurate to me. So in my view the Jackhammer is no way overpowered.
 
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CliffyG

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Originally posted by Gekul
You probably mean the lancer. And even then, the CoF just won't allow you to snipe with it, even on someone standing still.
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Yes i think i did mean the lancer, although i disagree about being unable to snipe with it. It's been brought up on quite a few forums.
 
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Jonaldo

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3 Striker missiles kill a MAX, the only time you would need more is if you hit an NC MAX with its shields up.

Jackhammer is strong close up, that's because it's a shotgun, and shotguns are famous for being strong close up.

After all the whining I wouldn't be suprised if they just scrapped the different weapons for empires and just made everything common pool.

(Then there would be whining about how the blue coloured armour probably is better than purple or red and how all enemies should only have 3 health etc..)
 
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old.ivan

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Originally posted by old.ivan
Striker is a support weapon, when it isnt used against vehicles it can be just as good as a sniper rifle 3 hits and one dead reinforced. Only downfall is the size of the clip really.

Phoenix however .. well lets just say its uses are limited, you always have to find cover as before your rocket hits anything you can get easily sniped/stabbed. If you happen to face a max with it at the distance of 5 meters .. you better have surge or you are dead before you finish reloading.

Simple fact is that many people tend to exaggerate or retell some blown up stories. :rolleyes:
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I think i used a wrong weapon reference here, i meant lancer [the rail beam vanu weapon in case i got the name wrong again]
So Striker .. the rocket launcher with heat lock on ? Cant really say why this AV weapon is being compared to HA weapon, but lock on is the macNasty of them all.
 
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Jonaldo

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Originally posted by bone_idle
Red armour is teh win.
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If you were truly 1337 you would know it's 'r teh win' :p or maybe the alternative '4 teh win'.
ie Jackhammer 4tehwin!!1
 
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