Do you care about your relics ?

[old.Xanthian]

Cos it doesnt seem that way...

For the last few days Mids and Albs have been zerging our frontier like a walk in the park, 5FG here, 4FG there..
And no-one has really give a flying fuck, apart from the odd 3 or 4 groups make two runs then log off cos they get steam-rolled.

Tonight I said in Alliance Chat 3!! times 5FG Albs at Crim.. then giving detailed info on where they were heading.
CG gets made, 1fg of Hibs die and then fail to tell the other cg members where, leaving us running around like headless chickens.
COMMUNICATE, thats what the fucking CG is for.

This realm really needs to pull its finger out, were getting walked on, If were supposed to be the most powerfull realm (according to Alb/Mid) we should take this in our stride.
One day you will wake up and all relics will be gone, some of you dont care but you should do.. Not only do they give us Melee/Power bonus, buts they are a matter of "Pride" showing that we are the superior Realm.

Get off your shitty lvl 24 Nightshade BG alt and do something constructive.. fgs we have Grey Con bards in E-Main all the time, if they are willing to help then why cant you ?

Flame me all you like but this Realm is slowly crumbling.. and people are losing patience. Sort it now before its too late.



(Dont gimme the garbage its just a game, its a "Role Playing Game" , and im playing the Role of a Moaning Bastard)

 

[yadleen]

I logged on just as you posted your last Alliance message send which gave me the impression you were really pis*ed about something. After reading your post I can understand why your annoyed. 5FGs of mids or albs should never be allowed around to roam freely in our lands. If they do then whats to stop a relic force from one day (could be soon) walking off with our relics without been seriously challenged.

Yes it is just a game, but I know there will be a lot of unhappy 'gamers' if we lose our relics wondering wtf happened........

So Xan I stand by you on this one.

 

[lofff]

Actually there are many hibborz who logged their alts at dagda to check if it was safe.

But anyways i think we should giv exca sum intensive weekend cos we will nevah get our str relic back with everyfugging alb bound at sauvage.

 

[Cloak_]

One day you will wake up and all relics will be gone,

Nuff Sed

 

[eneq]

aye i agree with u.

The problem is that some "PvP" players dont wanna "zerg"
They wanna run around with 1 fg and attack stragglers and dont give a damn if any Hib keeps r in enemy control.

Them i refer to as RP farmers.

What about making a Guild solely for keeping emain safe and take back keeps ??

Call it Hibernian Guardians.
Only RvR players. AND always make a zerg to wipe out them invaders.

Make the mids/Albs begin whine over being Zerg killed..

Hunt down them Stealthers that kills our XP groups in frontier.

 

[old.Music]

Xanthian: how about letting ppl play the way they want ? if that includes not giving a f''k about relic so be it. if ppl have fun with there lvl 24 bg shade, let them
if u wanna run around hunting alb/mid in our frontier fine.

but plz dont talk about pride and honor, cause this IS only a game, and every1 should do what is making the game fun for them.

btw. this is no flame of u xan, i think it's great we hibs have ppl defending our realms frontier.

 

[lofff]

Originally posted by eneq
aye i agree with u.

The problem is that some "PvP" players dont wanna "zerg"
They wanna run around with 1 fg and attack stragglers and dont give a damn if any Hib keeps r in enemy control.

Them i refer to as RP farmers.

What about making a Guild solely for keeping emain safe and take back keeps ??

Call it Hibernian Guardians.
Only RvR players. AND always make a zerg to wipe out them invaders.

Make the mids/Albs begin whine over being Zerg killed..

Hunt down them Stealthers that kills our XP groups in frontier.

eek! me meself HATE zerging, has no skill and almost no fun involved, call me rp pharmer if u want but id rather run as 1fg kicking arses and even get zerged than hibzerg.
And really, it has nothing to b with relics, i care bout em, and almost every good quality player I know who also hates hibzerging cares bout em too.
Ive been knocking those relic keep doors and defend our own ones too many times.


ps: Flaming ppl cos they rather run around getting their own kills as 1fg instead of sticking the mass and move slowly from tk to tk aint v.clever.

 

[lofff]

Also, best fights (and funniest) ud ever get will b 1fg vs 1fg. Problem is actually mids zerg everywhere screwing the fun.



ps: if albs ud need 1fg vs 20tincans to get sum fun, and u will still own em badly.

 

[elerand]

Originally posted by old.Xanthian
Cos it doesnt seem that way...

For the last few days Mids and Albs have been zerging our frontier like a walk in the park, 5FG here, 4FG there..
And no-one has really give a flying fuck, apart from the odd 3 or 4 groups make two runs then log off cos they get steam-rolled.

Tonight I said in Alliance Chat 3!! times 5FG Albs at Crim.. then giving detailed info on where they were heading.
CG gets made, 1fg of Hibs die and then fail to tell the other cg members where, leaving us running around like headless chickens.
COMMUNICATE, thats what the fucking CG is for.

This realm really needs to pull its finger out, were getting walked on, If were supposed to be the most powerfull realm (according to Alb/Mid) we should take this in our stride.
One day you will wake up and all relics will be gone, some of you dont care but you should do.. Not only do they give us Melee/Power bonus, buts they are a matter of "Pride" showing that we are the superior Realm.

Get off your shitty lvl 24 Nightshade BG alt and do something constructive.. fgs we have Grey Con bards in E-Main all the time, if they are willing to help then why cant you ?

Flame me all you like but this Realm is slowly crumbling.. and people are losing patience. Sort it now before its too late.



(Dont gimme the garbage its just a game, its a "Role Playing Game" , and im playing the Role of a Moaning Bastard)

Hmm, well maybe that was before aop showed up in emain.
for the most part there were just 2fgs of hibs killing off mids/albs for the best part of 2 hours and it was fun, when you suggested taking cru I'm sorry it got ignored but I don't tend to see cru as worth it for a couple of reasons.

Firstly, if DF needs to be opened it's the one keep likely to be taken before anyone can get inside df, hence why most raids to open DF take place in alb/mid.

second, because emain is the easiest frontier to move around it changes hands a ridiculous number of times every day, now I'm a proud hib and many are the times I have dropped what I'm doing to take a keep back but if we all ran to cru every time it was lost to us we wouldn't be getting up to much else in game I can tell you

Third, for me as a rule if crim goes or dagda then it's time to get rolling, send scouts out, see whats happening unless 5fgs of albs take every single keep there is very little chance of them taking a relic and even then 5fgs is not hard to wipeout in a keep defence.

Fourth, were you on the last str relic raid in alb? Was over VERY fast, sadly it's an easy one to get to for albs and getting everyone there isn't easy. I would like to say I can't even consider giving those who don't take much interest in rvr/relics/keeps a hard time, they can play as they wish, most of em are nice anyways and they pay their money like the rest of us.

Tbh this is all a bit late, we had our moment of weakness a while back when we lost a relic to the albs after they rampaged across our frontier in a series of keep takes that lasted a ridiculous amount of time but hey we got it back, as far as I'm concerned a lapse in vigilance in our frontier helps keep things exciting, the reason we paid so little attention is we started feeling no one would ever bother to take our relics and if they had to put together insane numbers of people just to attempt it and break our uber vigilant rvr squads then I think it would all be a lot less interesting and still stuck in emain, take my advice and go to hadrians or odin's for a bit and forget about the rest of it, best fun you can have with your m8's

 

[old.Xanthian]

Im not saying we have to Zerg..

Im just saying get your ass out in E-Main if someone reports X amount of Alb/Mid in Emain..

When I reported 5FG Albs in emain, I did a /who on frontier area's

/who Emain = 0
/who breifine = 0
/who gorge = 0

And it didnt change for the next 45 mins.


Personally I think the 2 big alliances (CBH,CF) should be re-arranged into 1 RvR specific alliance, and 1 who dont give a flying 1.

 

[lofff]

say there are 5fg moving towards dagda, or close to dagda and everyhib and his mum will leave everything to support his realm.

say there are 5fg dorks zerging emain and... WTF, this happens everday and has nothing to b with relics.

stop whining.

 

[Eleasias]

Originally posted by old.Xanthian


/who Emain = 0
/who breifine = 0
/who gorge = 0

And it didnt change for the next 45 mins.

I think someone here is talking bs

 

[Ensceptifica]

Originally posted by eneq
What about making a Guild solely for keeping emain safe and take back keeps ??

Call it Hibernian Guardians.

I like that idea.

AND always make a zerg to wipe out them invaders. Make the mids/Albs begin whine over being Zerg killed..

I don't like that idea at all.

When I log on, I check /realm and if there's any Hib keeps in invader hands, I try to get people together to reclaim em. Yes, Crauchon too. I commonly refer to Crauchon as MY keep, as I'm usually the only one interested in heading out to Emain to retake it. I can get 2-5fg together in a cg, no problem, but the moment you mention 'Crauchon', people start to object and chain themselves to amg gates in protest, or set fire to themselves by running into apk. I am OVERJOYED whenever I get people willing to help retake Crauchon.

A guild specializing in retaking and defending Hibernian keeps would be grand. If I wasn't so content in Clan Bearhawk (which is reasonable for RvR, but mainly a lot of fun in general... and I play for more than just RvR) I'd definitely join such a guild or even set it up myself.

As for the comment made by Elerand about Crauchon switching owner so often: I say this is an excellent reason to take Crauchon and defend it. All the time. It's the only keep most invaders ever consider attacking, so let's defend it for some nice action ( ;

 

[Ensceptifica]

Originally posted by lofff
say there are 5fg moving towards dagda, or close to dagda and everyhib and his mum will leave everything to support his realm.

say there are 5fg dorks zerging emain and... WTF, this happens everday and has nothing to b with relics.

Hehe bluntly put, but yeah that's about it.

If I hear 5fg albs at amg, well that's useful for peeps who are in Emain themselves. If I'm somewhere else at the time, I'll just keep it in mind. When any keep other than Crauchon falls next, that's when I start thinking about protecting the relic. Depending on what I'm doing, I'll either go check the frontier myself (with a group), or ask some other peeps to keep me informed so I can post it on /as (like Dagda clear, or 5fg albs attacking Scathaig).

 

[Ensceptifica]

Originally posted by old.Xanthian
Personally I think the 2 big alliances (CBH,CF) should be re-arranged into 1 RvR specific alliance, and 1 who dont give a flying 1.

As far as I know the forming of a big main Hibernia alliance has been topic of discussion between guilds and alliances for some time, and there's a lot of issues to be solved / agreed upon before something like that can ever happen.

But imagine the current situation... all alliances (yes, there's more than 2) have their own thing going in RvR. They talk about it on their own /as. Now imagine all those topics being in a single /as... it would be chaos. I think having 1 alliance would be useful for very big events, but for multiple smaller events it could be clumsy, chaotic and restricting. I also think the few alliances work together just fine when they need to (think of the last TD/CBH/CF df raid for instance, or of most relic raids that were joint attempts).

And RvR-specific... both CF and CBH alliance already have a policy that /as should be restricted to RvR topics (and maybe stuff like events, dragonraids or legion raids).

I don't think you're looking in the right places for a solution to your problem ( ;

 

[old.Xanthian]

I give in.
GL defending our Relics..

I'll be on Prydwen

 

[Ensceptifica]

Originally posted by old.Xanthian


I give in.
GL defending our Relics..

I'll be on Prydwen

Cheer up, we didn't lose the relic, and there were people checking on Dagda ( ;

 

[elerand]

Originally posted by Ensceptifica

As for the comment made by Elerand about Crauchon switching owner so often: I say this is an excellent reason to take Crauchon and defend it. All the time. It's the only keep most invaders ever consider attacking, so let's defend it for some nice action ( ;

Getting peopel to stay at cruachon to defend it is almost harder than getting people to take it

Besides odds are they just take crim instead once they cotton on

I'm certainly not saying we shouldn't take keeps back, it's worth the effort from a purely practical point of view and it actually encourages them to come back, since they know that at some point we will take it back and provide them with more useful rps in the process

Mind you even the mids/albs don't bother with their own keeps nearers the milegates, although they do upgrade the doors, if we did that to cru (and I do recall someone saying it was a waste of time) then with all the zergs in emain it would be mayhem for whoever attempts to do so, until the wee hours of the night and they take it anyway

So long as people respond to wel informed msgs of possible relic raid forces I don't care if there are 5fgs in emain, there are most likely another 5fgs of people there to fight them and so it goes on and on and...

 

[PJS]

And Ill be levelling even though I want to RvR, maybe one day when 50 cons orange Ill get invited to a group
Once I respec for aoe dot Crauchon is where I will be (damn if only I could find a group to get me there safely)

 

[lofff]

Originally posted by old.Xanthian


I give in.
GL defending our Relics..

I'll be on Prydwen

ROFL, due to my pryd experience i could say thats a good joke.

but its ok,

Albion - Prydwen
Xanny - lvl 21 Minstrel

Obviously u havent been playing there really. GL

 

[old.Xanthian]

Originally posted by lofff


ROFL, due to my pryd experience i could say thats a good joke.

but its ok,

Obviously u havent been playing there really. GL

? Cos I have a lvl 21 means I dont play there much ?
Sorry if I dont have 5 lvl 50's by now, forgive me for having a life and not wanting to lvl my chars..

 

[Danya]

Originally posted by lofff


ROFL, due to my pryd experience i could say thats a good joke.

but its ok,

Obviously u havent been playing there really. GL

What prydwen experience? You're about as n00b there as Xan and not really in any position to critise him.
You really need to pull your head out of your arse sometimes Lofff.

 

[eneq]

Originally posted by Ensceptifica

I like that idea.

I don't like that idea at all.

hmm tought u qouting me should be in post but it dont..

WEll i didnt mean we always Zerg emain.
I love the 1 fg v 1 fg as the next man.

I just meant we wipe the Alb/Mid zerg to pices so emain Hib frontier will b a 1 fg v 1 fg battle zone.

If there is a ALb zerg of 5 fg lets zerg them.

If not then we dont zerg emain (well to reclaim keeps we can)

 

[eneq]

Originally posted by lofff


eek! me meself HATE zerging, has no skill and almost no fun involved, call me rp pharmer if u want but id rather run as 1fg kicking arses and even get zerged than hibzerg.
And really, it has nothing to b with relics, i care bout em, and almost every good quality player I know who also hates hibzerging cares bout em too.
Ive been knocking those relic keep doors and defend our own ones too many times.


ps: Flaming ppl cos they rather run around getting their own kills as 1fg instead of sticking the mass and move slowly from tk to tk aint v.clever.

Well as i c it a 1 fg v 1 fg hasnt much to do with skill really. Well maybe say like this. It´s as much skill as Zerg.

1 fg against 1 fg is all about speed and CC.
The fg that stands still looses. How much skill does it take to run into another FG and then mezz. Tanks go after healer/mages.

Zerging 6-7 fg and attack 1 fg is boring i agree but the BIG battles 5 fg against 5 fg is awesome and beats the 1 v 1 by miles IMHO
i will reply to me flaming when baby is in bed she climbing my knees and rearches for keyboard atm ....

 

[lofff]

danyan, when i quitted u still were green con there, only cos u joined SOTL and got pwlvled to 50 does not means than others who did soloed, lowbiervred, and finally joined a tiny guild have no experience.

Im refering to pryd relics and rvr status mainly, if xan is going there cos he dislikes how we do here then rofl hell b back soon. THAT WAS.

And wonder why u talk as f were sum1 there.



ps: eneq i really disagree with all ur points but guess its just my liking... enjoy ur zerging id keep doing my fg runs, dont flame me.

 

[Danya]

Originally posted by lofff
danyan, when i quitted u still were green con there, only cos u joined SOTL and got pwlvled to 50 does not means than others who did soloed, lowbiervred, and finally joined a tiny guild have no experience.

LOL, shows what you know. I didn't get any powerlevelling off the guild. I found my own groups to get XP. When I dinged 50, I was the only person from sotl in the group. The majority of my 30+ XPing was done in similar groups. Don't talk shit about things you have no idea whatsoever about.

As for saying you have no experience, I was saying you have the same amount as Xan, possibly less as you haven't played prydwen for months, you might disagree, but that's how it seems.

Originally posted by lofff
And wonder why u talk as f were sum1 there

I'm not even sure what you mean here, care to try again in English?

 

[talivarevil]

Xan just 1 thing about working together, the other day my group is at amg odins and u come ,do u stay and help .....NO u go off and steal any kills by camping the TK and i had to ask where each time to find out how many even tho u knew we was at wall.

 

[lofff]

rah whatever danyan... Ive been playing there a while last weeks and really know what am talking about, prolly u do too, just need to go emain and see what happens, xan cant know.

am tired of senseless discussions.

 

[elerand]

Originally posted by lofff

am tired of senseless discussions.

Well don't post

Everyone has a different way on playing the game, however assuming any one persons experience overides anything anyone else has to say is plain ridiculous, best not to comment on what/how people do until you are there doing it with them, I mean in the same grp and not judging from the sidelines.

I would like to say to everyone, zerg where you like, solo where you like and blow anyone who says either practice is lame

I think people do miss that to turn around and have a go at people for not doing what they might think is the right thing is intimidating and frankly rude, it's an open game isn't it? Or do we put a sign on the box saying do it our way or bugger off?

I used to be fairly indifferent about relic raids when I started playing at commercial release and I like to defend and take part in relic raids, I also know it's a big task, requires a lot of communication and dammit if some of us don't turn on our pc's to log on and get away from doing that in rl.
I frequently go afk at no notice on some evenings and to get too involved on what's going in game is madness. Think that goes for a lot of people who play, so don't judge them too harshly.

 

[lightsout]

All I got to say about is PIE. Lets Zerg? What the frig is that all about. Tell me please where is the Skill? I love the way that if there is a Zerg A Caster's life expectancy is 5 sec. Being A Caster I do not like the idea of spending 15 mins to get to the battleground and dying in 5 secs. EACH TO THERE OWN!!!!! Cul is right in what he says. FLAME me all u want I will play this game the way I want not the way someone tells me to play. Where the frig were u all when I was levelling? 'U Mana?' 'What no?' 'Bye'

My guild is who I stand with no one else!!!

Reignfire Level 50 Voider Alliance of Power
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