Did the Bonedancer kill DAOC?

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Job

The Carl Pilkington of Freddyshouse
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As the first stupidly and game unbalancing overpowered char. did it start the demise of the game?

In thid a bonedancer means log time, all any player can do is run, if you get in lifetap range you are dead.

The whole game is based around a combat system relying on cast/swing speed and interupt and they brought in insta-lifetap which is the equivalent of one chess player having a chess piece that can go in any direction it likes and do it twice for the other players one move....fukin silly.
 

Qbic

Fledgling Freddie
Joined
Sep 3, 2004
Messages
268
As the first stupidly and game unbalancing overpowered char. did it start the demise of the game?

In thid a bonedancer means log time, all any player can do is run, if you get in lifetap range you are dead.

The whole game is based around a combat system relying on cast/swing speed and interupt and they brought in insta-lifetap which is the equivalent of one chess player having a chess piece that can go in any direction it likes and do it twice for the other players one move....fukin silly.

U do know that insta-lt will be nerfed in one of the upcoming patches or? Will be an 8 sec reuse timer. Most bd's on US go BA or Darkness nowadays :)
 

Tuppe

Fledgling Freddie
Joined
Dec 23, 2003
Messages
834
As the first stupidly and game unbalancing overpowered char. did it start the demise of the game?

In thid a bonedancer means log time, all any player can do is run, if you get in lifetap range you are dead.

The whole game is based around a combat system relying on cast/swing speed and interupt and they brought in insta-lifetap which is the equivalent of one chess player having a chess piece that can go in any direction it likes and do it twice for the other players one move....fukin silly.



do you forget sorcs 1800+ range mezz in thid when there isnt any counter in mids/hibs? aka pac healers insta yet available example.
necros in thidraki was/is melee nightmare, theurgs whit 2k range.
 

noblok

Part of the furniture
Joined
Jan 2, 2005
Messages
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wow yeah the uber great range on skald insta mezz LOLOLOL
In 2 seconds (quickcast time), the skald can cover a distance of Sqrt(1249^2 + 12^2) = Sqrt(1560145) = ~1249.06. Add 700 range of the skald mezz to get 1949.06 range, which is 74.06 more than the sorcerer's range. (Chat log in spoiler, used numbers are in bold)
*** Chat Log Opened: Sat Feb 17 19:42:05 2007

[19:42:07] You cast a Harmonic Song of Travel Spell!
[19:42:10] You ground-target 571922,542454,5399
[19:42:12] You prepare to sprint!
[19:42:12] You ground-target 571779,542452,5400
[19:42:13] You ground-target 571603,542449,5400
[19:42:13] You ground-target 571577,542449,5400
[19:42:13] You ground-target 571549,542448,5400
[19:42:13] You ground-target 571521,542448,5400
[19:42:13] You ground-target 571493,542447,5400
[19:42:13] You ground-target 571464,542447,5400
[19:42:13] You ground-target 571436,542446,5400
[19:42:13] You ground-target 571407,542446,5400
[19:42:14] You ground-target 571379,542446,5400
[19:42:14] You ground-target 571351,542445,5400
[19:42:14] You ground-target 571322,542445,5400
[19:42:14] You ground-target 571293,542444,5400
[19:42:14] You ground-target 571264,542444,5400
[19:42:14] You ground-target 571234,542443,5400
[19:42:14] You ground-target 571205,542443,5400
[19:42:14] You ground-target 571176,542442,5400
[19:42:14] You ground-target 571147,542442,5400
[19:42:14] You ground-target 571118,542441,5401
[19:42:14] (Region) You have entered Midgard Portal Keep.
[19:42:14] You ground-target 571089,542441,5402
[19:42:14] You ground-target 571059,542440,5403
[19:42:14] You ground-target 571030,542440,5404
[19:42:14] You ground-target 571000,542439,5405
[19:42:14] You ground-target 570971,542439,5405
[19:42:14] You ground-target 570941,542438,5406
[19:42:14] You ground-target 570912,542438,5407
[19:42:14] You ground-target 570883,542438,5408
[19:42:14] You ground-target 570854,542437,5408
[19:42:15] You ground-target 570825,542437,5408
[19:42:15] You ground-target 570796,542436,5408
[19:42:15] You ground-target 570767,542436,5408
[19:42:15] You ground-target 570738,542435,5408
[19:42:15] You ground-target 570709,542435,5408
[19:42:15] You ground-target 570680,542434,5408
[19:42:15] You ground-target 570652,542434,5408
[19:42:15] You ground-target 570624,542434,5408
[19:42:15] You ground-target 570595,542433,5408
[19:42:15] You ground-target 570567,542433,5408
[19:42:15] You ground-target 570538,542432,5408
[19:42:15] You ground-target 570511,542432,5408
[19:42:15] You ground-target 570482,542431,5408
[19:42:15] You ground-target 570455,542431,5408
[19:42:15] You ground-target 570427,542430,5408
[19:42:15] You ground-target 570399,542430,5408
[19:42:15] You ground-target 570371,542430,5408
[19:42:15] You ground-target 570343,542429,5408
[19:42:16] You ground-target 570315,542429,5408
[19:42:16] You ground-target 570287,542428,5408
[19:42:16] You ground-target 570259,542428,5408
[19:42:16] You ground-target 570232,542427,5408
[19:42:16] You ground-target 570204,542427,5408
[19:42:16] You ground-target 570177,542427,5408
[19:42:16] You ground-target 570149,542426,5408
[19:42:16] You ground-target 570122,542426,5408
[19:42:16] You ground-target 570095,542425,5408
[19:42:17] You ground-target 570068,542425,5408
[19:42:17] You ground-target 570041,542424,5408
[19:42:17] You ground-target 570014,542424,5408
[19:42:17] You ground-target 569987,542423,5408
[19:42:17] You ground-target 569960,542423,5408
[19:42:17] You ground-target 569933,542423,5408
[19:42:17] You ground-target 569907,542422,5408
[19:42:17] You ground-target 569880,542422,5408
[19:42:17] You ground-target 569854,542421,5408
[19:42:17] You ground-target 569827,542421,5408
[19:42:17] You ground-target 569801,542420,5408
[19:42:17] You ground-target 569774,542420,5408
[19:42:17] You ground-target 569747,542420,5408
[19:42:17] You ground-target 569721,542419,5408
[19:42:17] You ground-target 569694,542419,5408
[19:42:17] You ground-target 569668,542418,5408
[19:42:17] You ground-target 569642,542418,5408
[19:42:17] You ground-target 569615,542417,5408
[19:42:17] You ground-target 569589,542417,5408
[19:42:17] You ground-target 569563,542416,5408
[19:42:18] You ground-target 569537,542416,5408
[19:42:18] You ground-target 569510,542416,5408
[19:42:18] You ground-target 569483,542415,5408
[19:42:18] You ground-target 569457,542415,5408
[19:42:18] You ground-target 569432,542414,5408
[19:42:18] You ground-target 569406,542414,5408
[19:42:18] You ground-target 569381,542414,5408
[19:42:18] You ground-target 569356,542413,5408
[19:42:18] You ground-target 569331,542413,5408
[19:42:18] You ground-target 569305,542412,5408
[19:42:18] You ground-target 569280,542412,5408
[19:42:18] You ground-target 569255,542412,5408
[19:42:18] You ground-target 569230,542411,5408
[19:42:18] You ground-target 569204,542411,5408
[19:42:18] You ground-target 569180,542410,5408
[19:42:18] You ground-target 569155,542410,5408
[19:42:18] You ground-target 569130,542410,5408
[19:42:19] You ground-target 569105,542409,5408
[19:42:19] You ground-target 569081,542409,5408
[19:42:19] You ground-target 569056,542409,5408
[19:42:19] You ground-target 569031,542408,5408
[19:42:19] You ground-target 569006,542408,5408
[19:42:19] You ground-target 568982,542407,5408
[19:42:19] You ground-target 568911,542406,5408
[19:42:19] You ground-target 568894,542406,5408
[19:42:19] You ground-target 568884,542406,5408
[19:42:19] You ground-target 568858,542405,5408
[19:42:19] You ground-target 568836,542405,5408
[19:42:19] You ground-target 568814,542405,5408
[19:42:19] You ground-target 568790,542404,5408
[19:42:19] You ground-target 568765,542404,5408
[19:42:19] You ground-target 568741,542404,5408
[19:42:19] You ground-target 568716,542403,5408
[19:42:19] You ground-target 568691,542403,5408
[19:42:19] You ground-target 568665,542402,5408
[19:42:19] You ground-target 568640,542402,5408
[19:42:20] You ground-target 568615,542402,5408
[19:42:20] You ground-target 568590,542401,5408
[19:42:20] You ground-target 568560,542401,5408
[19:42:20] You ground-target 568540,542400,5408
[19:42:20] You ground-target 568515,542400,5408
[19:42:20] You ground-target 568489,542400,5408
[19:42:20] You ground-target 568467,542399,5408
[19:42:20] You ground-target 568442,542399,5408
[19:42:20] (Region) You have left Midgard Portal Keep.
[19:42:20] You ground-target 568416,542399,5408
[19:42:20] You ground-target 568391,542398,5408
[19:42:21] You ground-target 568317,542397,5408
[19:42:21] You ground-target 568306,542397,5408
[19:42:21] You ground-target 568263,542396,5408
[19:42:21] You ground-target 568251,542396,5408
[19:42:21] You ground-target 568238,542396,5408
[19:42:21] You ground-target 568224,542396,5408
[19:42:21] You ground-target 568207,542395,5408
[19:42:21] You ground-target 568183,542395,5408
[19:42:21] You ground-target 568157,542394,5408
[19:42:21] You ground-target 568133,542394,5408
[19:42:21] You ground-target 568106,542394,5408
[19:42:21] You ground-target 568080,542393,5408
[19:42:21] You ground-target 568053,542393,5408
[19:42:21] You ground-target 568027,542392,5408
[19:42:21] You ground-target 568000,542392,5408
[19:42:21] You ground-target 567973,542391,5408
[19:42:21] You ground-target 567945,542391,5408
[19:42:21] You ground-target 567918,542391,5408
[19:42:21] You ground-target 567890,542390,5408
[19:42:22] You ground-target 567863,542390,5408

[19:42:22] You ground-target 567835,542389,5408
[19:42:22] You ground-target 567807,542389,5407
[19:42:22] You ground-target 567778,542388,5407
[19:42:22] You ground-target 567750,542388,5406
[19:42:22] You ground-target 567722,542388,5405
[19:42:22] You ground-target 567693,542387,5404
[19:42:22] You ground-target 567665,542387,5403
[19:42:22] You ground-target 567636,542386,5402
[19:42:22] You ground-target 567606,542386,5401
[19:42:22] You ground-target 567577,542385,5400
[19:42:22] You ground-target 567547,542385,5399
[19:42:22] You ground-target 567518,542384,5393
[19:42:22] You ground-target 567487,542384,5387
[19:42:22] You ground-target 567457,542383,5382
[19:42:22] You ground-target 567427,542383,5376
[19:42:22] You ground-target 567397,542382,5370
[19:42:23] You ground-target 567366,542382,5366
[19:42:23] You ground-target 567336,542381,5366
[19:42:23] You ground-target 567305,542381,5365
[19:42:23] You ground-target 567274,542380,5361
[19:42:23] You ground-target 567243,542380,5356
[19:42:23] You ground-target 567213,542379,5352
[19:42:23] (Region) You have entered Ostelder's Grove.
[19:42:27] You are no longer ready to sprint.
Just to be complete: without quickcast the minimum achievable casttime is: 2.1286s (saracen, 18 dexterity at creation, 13 dexcap, 2% castspeed, capped buffs and aug dex II) [Source]
 

Alliandro

Fledgling Freddie
Joined
Apr 29, 2006
Messages
190
In 2 seconds (quickcast time), the skald can cover a distance of Sqrt(1249^2 + 12^2) = Sqrt(1560145) = ~1249.06. Add 700 range of the skald mezz to get 1949.06 range, which is 74.06 more than the sorcerer's range. (Chat log in spoiler, used numbers are in bold)
*** Chat Log Opened: Sat Feb 17 19:42:05 2007

[19:42:07] You cast a Harmonic Song of Travel Spell!
[19:42:10] You ground-target 571922,542454,5399
[19:42:12] You prepare to sprint!
[19:42:12] You ground-target 571779,542452,5400
[19:42:13] You ground-target 571603,542449,5400
[19:42:13] You ground-target 571577,542449,5400
[19:42:13] You ground-target 571549,542448,5400
[19:42:13] You ground-target 571521,542448,5400
[19:42:13] You ground-target 571493,542447,5400
[19:42:13] You ground-target 571464,542447,5400
[19:42:13] You ground-target 571436,542446,5400
[19:42:13] You ground-target 571407,542446,5400
[19:42:14] You ground-target 571379,542446,5400
[19:42:14] You ground-target 571351,542445,5400
[19:42:14] You ground-target 571322,542445,5400
[19:42:14] You ground-target 571293,542444,5400
[19:42:14] You ground-target 571264,542444,5400
[19:42:14] You ground-target 571234,542443,5400
[19:42:14] You ground-target 571205,542443,5400
[19:42:14] You ground-target 571176,542442,5400
[19:42:14] You ground-target 571147,542442,5400
[19:42:14] You ground-target 571118,542441,5401
[19:42:14] (Region) You have entered Midgard Portal Keep.
[19:42:14] You ground-target 571089,542441,5402
[19:42:14] You ground-target 571059,542440,5403
[19:42:14] You ground-target 571030,542440,5404
[19:42:14] You ground-target 571000,542439,5405
[19:42:14] You ground-target 570971,542439,5405
[19:42:14] You ground-target 570941,542438,5406
[19:42:14] You ground-target 570912,542438,5407
[19:42:14] You ground-target 570883,542438,5408
[19:42:14] You ground-target 570854,542437,5408
[19:42:15] You ground-target 570825,542437,5408
[19:42:15] You ground-target 570796,542436,5408
[19:42:15] You ground-target 570767,542436,5408
[19:42:15] You ground-target 570738,542435,5408
[19:42:15] You ground-target 570709,542435,5408
[19:42:15] You ground-target 570680,542434,5408
[19:42:15] You ground-target 570652,542434,5408
[19:42:15] You ground-target 570624,542434,5408
[19:42:15] You ground-target 570595,542433,5408
[19:42:15] You ground-target 570567,542433,5408
[19:42:15] You ground-target 570538,542432,5408
[19:42:15] You ground-target 570511,542432,5408
[19:42:15] You ground-target 570482,542431,5408
[19:42:15] You ground-target 570455,542431,5408
[19:42:15] You ground-target 570427,542430,5408
[19:42:15] You ground-target 570399,542430,5408
[19:42:15] You ground-target 570371,542430,5408
[19:42:15] You ground-target 570343,542429,5408
[19:42:16] You ground-target 570315,542429,5408
[19:42:16] You ground-target 570287,542428,5408
[19:42:16] You ground-target 570259,542428,5408
[19:42:16] You ground-target 570232,542427,5408
[19:42:16] You ground-target 570204,542427,5408
[19:42:16] You ground-target 570177,542427,5408
[19:42:16] You ground-target 570149,542426,5408
[19:42:16] You ground-target 570122,542426,5408
[19:42:16] You ground-target 570095,542425,5408
[19:42:17] You ground-target 570068,542425,5408
[19:42:17] You ground-target 570041,542424,5408
[19:42:17] You ground-target 570014,542424,5408
[19:42:17] You ground-target 569987,542423,5408
[19:42:17] You ground-target 569960,542423,5408
[19:42:17] You ground-target 569933,542423,5408
[19:42:17] You ground-target 569907,542422,5408
[19:42:17] You ground-target 569880,542422,5408
[19:42:17] You ground-target 569854,542421,5408
[19:42:17] You ground-target 569827,542421,5408
[19:42:17] You ground-target 569801,542420,5408
[19:42:17] You ground-target 569774,542420,5408
[19:42:17] You ground-target 569747,542420,5408
[19:42:17] You ground-target 569721,542419,5408
[19:42:17] You ground-target 569694,542419,5408
[19:42:17] You ground-target 569668,542418,5408
[19:42:17] You ground-target 569642,542418,5408
[19:42:17] You ground-target 569615,542417,5408
[19:42:17] You ground-target 569589,542417,5408
[19:42:17] You ground-target 569563,542416,5408
[19:42:18] You ground-target 569537,542416,5408
[19:42:18] You ground-target 569510,542416,5408
[19:42:18] You ground-target 569483,542415,5408
[19:42:18] You ground-target 569457,542415,5408
[19:42:18] You ground-target 569432,542414,5408
[19:42:18] You ground-target 569406,542414,5408
[19:42:18] You ground-target 569381,542414,5408
[19:42:18] You ground-target 569356,542413,5408
[19:42:18] You ground-target 569331,542413,5408
[19:42:18] You ground-target 569305,542412,5408
[19:42:18] You ground-target 569280,542412,5408
[19:42:18] You ground-target 569255,542412,5408
[19:42:18] You ground-target 569230,542411,5408
[19:42:18] You ground-target 569204,542411,5408
[19:42:18] You ground-target 569180,542410,5408
[19:42:18] You ground-target 569155,542410,5408
[19:42:18] You ground-target 569130,542410,5408
[19:42:19] You ground-target 569105,542409,5408
[19:42:19] You ground-target 569081,542409,5408
[19:42:19] You ground-target 569056,542409,5408
[19:42:19] You ground-target 569031,542408,5408
[19:42:19] You ground-target 569006,542408,5408
[19:42:19] You ground-target 568982,542407,5408
[19:42:19] You ground-target 568911,542406,5408
[19:42:19] You ground-target 568894,542406,5408
[19:42:19] You ground-target 568884,542406,5408
[19:42:19] You ground-target 568858,542405,5408
[19:42:19] You ground-target 568836,542405,5408
[19:42:19] You ground-target 568814,542405,5408
[19:42:19] You ground-target 568790,542404,5408
[19:42:19] You ground-target 568765,542404,5408
[19:42:19] You ground-target 568741,542404,5408
[19:42:19] You ground-target 568716,542403,5408
[19:42:19] You ground-target 568691,542403,5408
[19:42:19] You ground-target 568665,542402,5408
[19:42:19] You ground-target 568640,542402,5408
[19:42:20] You ground-target 568615,542402,5408
[19:42:20] You ground-target 568590,542401,5408
[19:42:20] You ground-target 568560,542401,5408
[19:42:20] You ground-target 568540,542400,5408
[19:42:20] You ground-target 568515,542400,5408
[19:42:20] You ground-target 568489,542400,5408
[19:42:20] You ground-target 568467,542399,5408
[19:42:20] You ground-target 568442,542399,5408
[19:42:20] (Region) You have left Midgard Portal Keep.
[19:42:20] You ground-target 568416,542399,5408
[19:42:20] You ground-target 568391,542398,5408
[19:42:21] You ground-target 568317,542397,5408
[19:42:21] You ground-target 568306,542397,5408
[19:42:21] You ground-target 568263,542396,5408
[19:42:21] You ground-target 568251,542396,5408
[19:42:21] You ground-target 568238,542396,5408
[19:42:21] You ground-target 568224,542396,5408
[19:42:21] You ground-target 568207,542395,5408
[19:42:21] You ground-target 568183,542395,5408
[19:42:21] You ground-target 568157,542394,5408
[19:42:21] You ground-target 568133,542394,5408
[19:42:21] You ground-target 568106,542394,5408
[19:42:21] You ground-target 568080,542393,5408
[19:42:21] You ground-target 568053,542393,5408
[19:42:21] You ground-target 568027,542392,5408
[19:42:21] You ground-target 568000,542392,5408
[19:42:21] You ground-target 567973,542391,5408
[19:42:21] You ground-target 567945,542391,5408
[19:42:21] You ground-target 567918,542391,5408
[19:42:21] You ground-target 567890,542390,5408
[19:42:22] You ground-target 567863,542390,5408

[19:42:22] You ground-target 567835,542389,5408
[19:42:22] You ground-target 567807,542389,5407
[19:42:22] You ground-target 567778,542388,5407
[19:42:22] You ground-target 567750,542388,5406
[19:42:22] You ground-target 567722,542388,5405
[19:42:22] You ground-target 567693,542387,5404
[19:42:22] You ground-target 567665,542387,5403
[19:42:22] You ground-target 567636,542386,5402
[19:42:22] You ground-target 567606,542386,5401
[19:42:22] You ground-target 567577,542385,5400
[19:42:22] You ground-target 567547,542385,5399
[19:42:22] You ground-target 567518,542384,5393
[19:42:22] You ground-target 567487,542384,5387
[19:42:22] You ground-target 567457,542383,5382
[19:42:22] You ground-target 567427,542383,5376
[19:42:22] You ground-target 567397,542382,5370
[19:42:23] You ground-target 567366,542382,5366
[19:42:23] You ground-target 567336,542381,5366
[19:42:23] You ground-target 567305,542381,5365
[19:42:23] You ground-target 567274,542380,5361
[19:42:23] You ground-target 567243,542380,5356
[19:42:23] You ground-target 567213,542379,5352
[19:42:23] (Region) You have entered Ostelder's Grove.
[19:42:27] You are no longer ready to sprint.
Just to be complete: without quickcast the minimum achievable casttime is: 2.1286s (saracen, 18 dexterity at creation, 13 dexcap, 2% castspeed, capped buffs and aug dex II) [Source]


hahaha go blokkie ;p
 

shadowofthenight

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As the first stupidly and game unbalancing overpowered char. did it start the demise of the game?

In thid a bonedancer means log time, all any player can do is run, if you get in lifetap range you are dead.

The whole game is based around a combat system relying on cast/swing speed and interupt and they brought in insta-lifetap which is the equivalent of one chess player having a chess piece that can go in any direction it likes and do it twice for the other players one move....fukin silly.


hmmmmm MOST BDs in thid are relatively easy to kill (un-SC'd and not tempd very welll) the only one people tend to run from is Aleven and if u have a sorc in group most groups take him out.....mezz, kill commander, and gank the player ^^ would hgave fort a eld could take a BD out piss easy also........Theurgs can take BDs out......hmmm infil can take most BDs out....BDs were OPd the first week they were introduced when noone knew how to kill them now many people know and will kill them pretty easily

Ofc u get the tempd and SC'd BD (aleven) thata re a trouble to take down

a answer to ure question.....No BDs have not and Willl not kill daoc

Kikashi
 

shadowofthenight

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edit: removed - letting a banned user post through your account is stupid, they are banned for a reason.
 

Kinag

Part of the furniture
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Tell him to get his head out of the ground and take a look at the real world.

Perhaps he'll figure out that calling himself the "king of thidranki" is a bit... stupid?
 

Illudian

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The way this game is designed, it kinda killed itself. Balance is faaaar off.
 

Punishment

Resident Freddy
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If it wasnt worth reading why should it be worth replying to ?

As for the other comment ... its an open forum , Aleven is the one who should not be here ... hence you being his kabana boi :p
 

Basic_X

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Qbic said:
Most bd's on US go BA or Darkness nowadays :)

Yea, but the class is still stupid, in the US bgs - most Bds just send in their pet then run. since the pet alone can kill you/snare/stun you while the caster (if left alone) can come out of his hiding place and give the final blow while thinking he realy owned that guy with a pet that slams and snares you in thidranki -.-
 

Hawkwind

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Just love the fact this guy is calling people retarded and stupid. You play a no skill required class, I wonder why that is? People that always have to win and play games in god mode are the dumb ones.

Only skillful BD I've ever seen played is Brite. 99% of those that play WL's and BD's do so because they could not compete on anything else.

:flame: Flame away:flame:
 

Everz

FH is my second home
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Yea, but the class is still stupid, in the US bgs - most Bds just send in their pet then run. since the pet alone can kill you/snare/stun you while the caster (if left alone) can come out of his hiding place and give the final blow while thinking he realy owned that guy with a pet that slams and snares you in thidranki -.-

only thing i could never kill on my mauler was a BA BD.. pets hits for an average of 40 dmg+30 dmg add a swing.. x3 and your dead soon.
 

Alan

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The whole point of banning someone from posting - is so they cant post.

People who lend there forum accounts to a banned user, or let a banned user post through their name will not be tolerated.
 
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