dex cap ??

trycorn

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well was wondering what is the effective cap on dex ?
my saracen sorc got 390 dex with 101 dex in template and aug dex 3
is there any reason to go higher dex cos i heard 385 was cap on castspeed(got 10%castspeed ofc)??

cheers
 

kirennia

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386 with 10% speed increase is cap as far as i know.
 

Missythang

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I'm really not an expert here, but afaik, dex is a "soft capped" stat, so you can get the full benefit of +'s up to (I think) 350 or thereabouts - whatever your "cap" limit is (again - not hard fact).
After that, any +'s will be reduced in the value they add to your effective dex and in increasing reduction amounts on a "stepped" basis.
Working on this basis (I can't remember the numbers in detail), you should be looking at closr to 450 as the "effective" max dex available....
or maybe that's the max dex you can add but you won't get the full effectiveness.

Ach... maybe helpful... maybe not - I know a lot more people here will have more detail on the numbers side of things... but it's been a wee while since I did any serious delving.


Thanks to Kierla for the basics here - I don't remember the details, though - I am soooo not up-to-date!
 

Docs

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Pop aug dex 4 for around 400 dex on him and you will notice the difference.
Those that say you cap at 385 is just full of bull.
You will notice a bigger difference on the slower spells then your
baseline nuke of cuorse but you will still notice the difference.
Might even want to try aug dex 5 for even more dex but
then you get to the cost/benifit question.
 

Ilum

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test it with cast speed logs - everyone who tests says its pretty much no difference at all above 386 - but I think it still bumps your casting animation thats why everyone assumes so...
 

trycorn

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hmm just relook @ my template, and noticed that my template only activly give's 25dex cap (allto i have 26 in template and 103 dex)
any1 know why it wont givf me that 1 dex (yes i know its only 1 but i cant stand if something is bugged or something)


useing this template atm

Config Report

Stats

Str: 0 Int: 96 Hits: 204
Con: 75 Pie: 0 Power: 0
Dex: 103 Cha: 0
Qui: 0 Emp: 0

Resists

Body: 22 Energy: 26 Crush: 21
Cold: 26 Matter: 21 Thrust: 23 (3)
Heat: 30 (5) Spirit: 24 Slash: 24 (2)

Skills

3 Matter Magic

3 Mind Magic

3 Body Magic

Focus


50 Mind Focus

50 Body Focus

50 Matter Focus

Cap Increases

25 Dex(alltho if u add it up its 26)

25 Int

40 Hits

10 Power

Other Bonuses

6 Spell Duration Bonus

11 Buff Bonus

9 Spell Range Bonus

9 Spell Damage Bonus

10 Casting Speed Bonus

8 AF Bonus

27 Power Percentage Bonus

Piece Listing

Chest
Name: Gaurd of valor
Level: 51 Quality: 94
AF: Bonus:
Effect 1: 40 Hits
Effect 2: 18 Acuity
Effect 3: 5 Acuity Cap Increase
Effect 4: 15 Dexterity
Effect 5: 5 Dexterity Cap Increase
Effect 6: 4 Spell Damage Bonus
Effect 7: 4 Spell Range Bonus
Effect 8: Empty
Effect 9: Empty
Effect 10: Empty
Utility: 32.00

Arms
Imbue Points: 37.5 of 32 (100 Qual) Overcharge: 8%
Gem 1: 19 Dexterity - 99 faceted Vapor Essence
Gem 2: 25 Constitution - 99 flawless Earthen Essence
Gem 3: 7 Energy Resist - 99 imperfect Light Shielding
Gem 4: 9 Matter Resist - 99 polished Earthen Shielding
Utility: 61.33

Head
Imbue Points: 37.0 of 32 (100 Qual) Overcharge: 8%
Gem 1: 28 Constitution - 99 perfect Earthen Essence
Gem 2: 5 Heat Resist - 99 flawed Heated Shielding
Gem 3: 7 Cold Resist - 99 imperfect Icy Shielding
Gem 4: 9 Spirit Resist - 99 polished Vapor Shielding
Utility: 60.67

Legs
Imbue Points: 37.5 of 32 (100 Qual) Overcharge: 8%
Gem 1: 22 Constitution - 99 precious Earthen Essence
Gem 2: 7 Cold Resist - 99 imperfect Icy Shielding
Gem 3: 11 Energy Resist - 99 faceted Light Shielding
Gem 4: 5 Spirit Resist - 99 flawed Vapor Shielding
Utility: 60.67

Hands
Name: Maddening Scalars
Level: 51 Quality: 100
AF: Bonus:
Effect 1: 40 Hits
Effect 2: 15 Dexterity
Effect 3: 15 Acuity
Effect 4: 6 Power Percentage Bonus
Effect 5: 3 Casting Speed Bonus
Effect 6: 5 Dexterity Cap Increase
Effect 7: 5 Acuity Cap Increase
Effect 8: Empty
Effect 9: Empty
Effect 10: Empty
Utility: 30.00

Feet
Name: Silksteel Soot Stained Boots
Level: 51 Quality: 94
AF: Bonus:
Effect 1: 21 Intelligence
Effect 2: 21 Dexterity
Effect 3: 5 Power Percentage Bonus
Effect 4: 7 Dexterity Cap Increase
Effect 5: 6 Acuity Cap Increase
Effect 6: Empty
Effect 7: Empty
Effect 8: Empty
Effect 9: Empty
Effect 10: Empty
Utility: 28.00

Right Hand
Imbue Points: 0.0 of 10 (94 Qual) Overcharge: None
Gem 1: Empty -
Gem 2: Empty -
Gem 3: Empty -
Gem 4: Empty -
Utility: 0.00

Left Hand
Imbue Points: 0.0 of 10 (94 Qual) Overcharge: None
Gem 1: Empty -
Gem 2: Empty -
Gem 3: Empty -
Gem 4: Empty -
Utility: 0.00

Two Handed
Name: Tartaros Gift
Level: 51 Quality: 94
DPS: Bonus:
Effect 1: 15 Intelligence
Effect 2: 50 All Focus Bonus
Effect 3: 40 Hits
Effect 4: 3 All Magic Skill Bonus
Effect 5: 6 Power Percentage Bonus
Effect 6: 5 Spell Damage Bonus
Effect 7: Empty
Effect 8: Empty
Effect 9: Empty
Effect 10: Empty
Utility: 66.00

Ranged
Imbue Points: 0.0 of 10 (94 Qual) Overcharge: None
Gem 1: Empty -
Gem 2: Empty -
Gem 3: Empty -
Gem 4: Empty -
Utility: 0.00

Neck
Name: ancient copper necklace
Level: 51 Quality:
Bonus:
Effect 1: 10 Spirit Resist
Effect 2: 10 Body Resist
Effect 3: 10 Crush Resist
Effect 4: 10 Thrust Resist
Effect 5: Empty
Effect 6: Empty
Effect 7: Empty
Effect 8: Empty
Effect 9: Empty
Effect 10: Empty
Utility: 80.00

Cloak
Name: Cloudsong
Level: 51 Quality: 100
Bonus:
Effect 1: 5 Power Percentage Bonus
Effect 2: 12 Acuity
Effect 3: 5 Acuity Cap Increase
Effect 4: 5 Casting Speed Bonus
Effect 5: 5 Buff Bonus
Effect 6: 8 AF Bonus
Effect 7: 5 Power Cap Increase
Effect 8: Empty
Effect 9: Empty
Effect 10: Empty
Utility: 8.00

Jewel
Name: Harpy Feather Charm
Level: 51 Quality:
Bonus:
Effect 1: 6 Heat Resist
Effect 2: 6 Cold Resist
Effect 3: 6 Matter Resist
Effect 4: 6 Body Resist
Effect 5: 44 Hits
Effect 6: Empty
Effect 7: Empty
Effect 8: Empty
Effect 9: Empty
Effect 10: Empty
Utility: 59.00

Belt
Name: Jacina's Sash
Level: 51 Quality:
Bonus:
Effect 1: 6 Buff Bonus
Effect 2: 6 Spell Duration Bonus
Effect 3: 5 Power Percentage Bonus
Effect 4: 5 Power Cap Increase
Effect 5: 5 Spell Range Bonus
Effect 6: Empty
Effect 7: Empty
Effect 8: Empty
Effect 9: Empty
Effect 10: Empty
Utility: 0.00

Right Ring
Name: Ring of the Torrent
Level: 51 Quality:
Bonus:
Effect 1: 11 Crush Resist
Effect 2: 10 Slash Resist
Effect 3: 10 Thrust Resist
Effect 4: 2 Casting Speed Bonus
Effect 5: Empty
Effect 6: Empty
Effect 7: Empty
Effect 8: Empty
Effect 9: Empty
Effect 10: Empty
Utility: 62.00

Left Ring
Name: Immolated ring
Level: 51 Quality:
Bonus:
Effect 1: 15 Dexterity
Effect 2: 15 Acuity
Effect 3: 8 Energy Resist
Effect 4: 8 Heat Resist
Effect 5: 4 Acuity Cap Increase
Effect 6: 4 Dexterity Cap Increase
Effect 7: Empty
Effect 8: Empty
Effect 9: Empty
Effect 10: Empty
Utility: 52.00

Right Wrist
Name: Ceremonial Bracer (dex)
Level: 51 Quality:
Bonus:
Effect 1: 18 Dexterity
Effect 2: 40 Hits
Effect 3: 5 Dexterity Cap Increase
Effect 4: 40 Hits Cap Increase
Effect 5: 6 Slash Resist
Effect 6: Empty
Effect 7: Empty
Effect 8: Empty
Effect 9: Empty
Effect 10: Empty
Utility: 34.00

Left Wrist
Name: ebon hide bracer
Level: 51 Quality:
Bonus:
Effect 1: 6 Cold Resist
Effect 2: 6 Body Resist
Effect 3: 6 Heat Resist
Effect 4: 6 Slash Resist
Effect 5: 6 Matter Resist
Effect 6: Empty
Effect 7: Empty
Effect 8: Empty
Effect 9: Empty
Effect 10: Empty
Utility: 60.00
 

Red HATred

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silksteel soot stained boots
18 dex
18 aquity


aquit cap 6
dex cap 7
 

trycorn

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ahh cheers didnt notice that, stupid hib version...
ahh well will put some more dex in the SC...
 

Sollers

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why not get 10% range? Would only take erinys charm added to your temp :)

p.s: it would give you 10% passive resist piercing as well
 

trycorn

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Sollers said:
why not get 10% range? Would only take erinys charm added to your temp :)

p.s: it would give you 10% passive resist piercing as well
well have done it low 16/15 matter / spirit resist but else everything capped, think im gonna stick with that
 

Sollers

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this is the temp I'm currently using, only difference in artis is that mine uses Erinys to ensure 10% passive resists and 10% range.

Config Report

Stats

Str: 15 Int: 105 Hits: 200
Con: 75 Pie: 0 Power: 0
Dex: 100 Cha: 0
Qui: 0 Emp: 0

Resists

Body: 25 Energy: 13 Crush: 28 (2)
Cold: 26 Matter: 24 Thrust: 25
Heat: 25 Spirit: 20 (5) Slash: 27 (3)

Skills

3 Matter Magic

3 Mind Magic

3 Body Magic

Focus

50 Mind Focus
50 Body Focus
50 Matter Focus
Cap Increases

25 Dex

40 Hits

10 Power

8 AF

25 Int

5 Str

Other Bonuses

14 Spell Range Bonus

9 Spell Damage Bonus

10 Casting Speed Bonus

27 Power Percentage Bonus

11 Spell Duration Bonus

Piece Listing

Chest
Name: Guard of Valor (caster)
Level: 51 Quality: 100
AF: 51 Bonus: 35
Effect 1: 40 Hits
Effect 2: 15 Intelligence
Effect 3: 5 Intelligence Cap Increase
Effect 4: 15 Dexterity
Effect 5: 15 Strength
Effect 6: 5 Dexterity Cap Increase
Effect 7: 5 Strength Cap Increase
Effect 8: 4 Spell Range Bonus
Effect 9: 4 Spell Damage Bonus
Effect 10: Empty
Utility: 40.00

Arms
Imbue Points: 37.5 of 32 (100 Qual) Overcharge: 38%
Gem 1: 25 Constitution - 99 flawless Earthen Essence
Gem 2: 19 Dexterity - 99 faceted Vapor Essence
Gem 3: 9 Cold Resist - 99 polished Icy Shielding
Gem 4: 7 Matter Resist - 99 imperfect Earthen Shielding
Utility: 61.33

Head
Imbue Points: 37.5 of 32 (100 Qual) Overcharge: 38%
Gem 1: 25 Constitution - 99 flawless Earthen Essence
Gem 2: 9 Body Resist - 99 polished Dusty Shielding
Gem 3: 11 Heat Resist - 99 faceted Heated Shielding
Gem 4: 2 Slash Resist - 99 uncut Watery Shielding
Utility: 60.67

Legs
Imbue Points: 37.5 of 32 (100 Qual) Overcharge: 38%
Gem 1: 11 Cold Resist - 99 faceted Icy Shielding
Gem 2: 11 Matter Resist - 99 faceted Earthen Shielding
Gem 3: 10 Constitution - 99 flawed Earthen Essence
Gem 4: 5 Thrust Resist - 99 flawed Airy Shielding
Utility: 60.67

Hands
Name: Maddening Scalars (caster)
Level: 51 Quality: 99
AF: Bonus:
Effect 1: 40 Hits
Effect 2: 15 Dexterity
Effect 3: 15 Acuity
Effect 4: 6 Power Percentage Bonus
Effect 5: 3 Casting Speed Bonus
Effect 6: 5 Dexterity Cap Increase
Effect 7: 5 Acuity Cap Increase
Effect 8: Empty
Effect 9: Empty
Effect 10: Empty
Utility: 30.00

Feet
Name: Silksteel Soot Stained Boots
Level: 51 Quality: 100
AF: Bonus:
Effect 1: 5 Power Percentage Bonus
Effect 2: 18 Dexterity
Effect 3: 18 Intelligence
Effect 4: 7 Dexterity Cap Increase
Effect 5: 6 Intelligence Cap Increase
Effect 6: Empty
Effect 7: Empty
Effect 8: Empty
Effect 9: Empty
Effect 10: Empty
Utility: 24.00

Right Hand
Imbue Points: 0.0 of 10 (94 Qual) Overcharge: None
Gem 1: Empty -
Gem 2: Empty -
Gem 3: Empty -
Gem 4: Empty -
Utility: 0.00

Left Hand
Imbue Points: 0.0 of 10 (94 Qual) Overcharge: None
Gem 1: Empty -
Gem 2: Empty -
Gem 3: Empty -
Gem 4: Empty -
Utility: 0.00

Two Handed
Name: Tartaros Gift
Level: 51 Quality: 94
DPS: Bonus:
Effect 1: 15 Intelligence
Effect 2: 50 All Focus Bonus
Effect 3: 40 Hits
Effect 4: 3 All Magic Skill Bonus
Effect 5: 6 Power Percentage Bonus
Effect 6: 5 Spell Damage Bonus
Effect 7: Empty
Effect 8: Empty
Effect 9: Empty
Effect 10: Empty
Utility: 66.00

Ranged
Imbue Points: 0.0 of 10 (94 Qual) Overcharge: None
Gem 1: Empty -
Gem 2: Empty -
Gem 3: Empty -
Gem 4: Empty -
Utility: 0.00

Neck
Name: Ancient Copper Necklace
Level: 51 Quality: 100
Bonus:
Effect 1: 10 Crush Resist
Effect 2: 10 Thrust Resist
Effect 3: 10 Body Resist
Effect 4: 10 Spirit Resist
Effect 5: Empty
Effect 6: Empty
Effect 7: Empty
Effect 8: Empty
Effect 9: Empty
Effect 10: Empty
Utility: 80.00

Cloak
Name: Cloudsong
Level: 51 Quality: 99
Bonus:
Effect 1: 5 Spell Duration Bonus
Effect 2: 12 Intelligence
Effect 3: 5 Intelligence Cap Increase
Effect 4: 5 Casting Speed Bonus
Effect 5: 8 AF Cap Increase
Effect 6: 5 Power Cap Increase
Effect 7: 5 Power Percentage Bonus
Effect 8: Empty
Effect 9: Empty
Effect 10: Empty
Utility: 8.00

Jewel
Name: Erinys Charm
Level: 51 Quality:
Bonus:
Effect 1: 40 Hits
Effect 2: 15 Intelligence
Effect 3: 15 Constitution
Effect 4: 5 Crush Resist
Effect 5: 5 Spirit Resist
Effect 6: 5 Energy Resist
Effect 7: 5 Spell Range Bonus
Effect 8: Empty
Effect 9: Empty
Effect 10: Empty
Utility: 60.00

Belt
Name: Jacina's Sash
Level: 51 Quality: 99
Bonus:
Effect 1: 6 Spell Duration Bonus
Effect 2: 5 Power Percentage Bonus
Effect 3: 5 Power Cap Increase
Effect 4: 5 Spell Range Bonus
Effect 5: Empty
Effect 6: Empty
Effect 7: Empty
Effect 8: Empty
Effect 9: Empty
Effect 10: Empty
Utility: 0.00

Right Ring
Name: Ring of the Torrent
Level: 51 Quality: 100
Bonus:
Effect 1: 11 Crush Resist
Effect 2: 10 Slash Resist
Effect 3: 10 Thrust Resist
Effect 4: 2 Casting Speed Bonus
Effect 5: Empty
Effect 6: Empty
Effect 7: Empty
Effect 8: Empty
Effect 9: Empty
Effect 10: Empty
Utility: 62.00

Left Ring
Name: Immolated Ring
Level: 51 Quality: 100
Bonus: 35
Effect 1: 15 Dexterity
Effect 2: 8 Energy Resist
Effect 3: 8 Heat Resist
Effect 4: 15 Acuity
Effect 5: 4 Dexterity Cap Increase
Effect 6: 4 Acuity Cap Increase
Effect 7: Empty
Effect 8: Empty
Effect 9: Empty
Effect 10: Empty
Utility: 52.00

Right Wrist
Name: Ebon Hide Bracer
Level: 51 Quality: 100
Bonus:
Effect 1: 6 Cold Resist
Effect 2: 6 Body Resist
Effect 3: 6 Heat Resist
Effect 4: 6 Slash Resist
Effect 5: 6 Matter Resist
Effect 6: Empty
Effect 7: Empty
Effect 8: Empty
Effect 9: Empty
Effect 10: Empty
Utility: 60.00

Left Wrist
Name: Ceremonial Bracers
Level: 51 Quality: 99
Bonus:
Effect 1: 40 Hits
Effect 2: 18 Dexterity
Effect 3: 5 Dexterity Cap Increase
Effect 4: 6 Slash Resist
Effect 5: 40 Hits Cap Increase
Effect 6: Empty
Effect 7: Empty
Effect 8: Empty
Effect 9: Empty
Effect 10: Empty
Utility: 34.00
 

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