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froler-mid

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hoho @ Eleasias pic ^^




and too Spix, u TS:ed at AMG and dont expect a zerg too gank j00? qq


edit: TSing hunters must be zerged imo.
 
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ormagaa

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Re: Re: depressing

Originally posted by Ilur_oom
yet another amg screen!!! what do you want ? no albs in amg? maybe no albs in apk ? gahh

well for once sake try to MOVE out from amg one time?

or is that too trixy for you?

Then all dont have to meet there.
 
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kinag

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Originally posted by Eleasias
stealthzerg.jpg


My heart bleeds for you :O

Didnt manage to fit all the stealthers in same pic tho 8((

:eek: lame stealthers :(
 
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Flimgoblin

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Originally posted by Merl
Ppl should realise by now that moaning on BW does no good, its the ppl that complain on VNboards that get things nerfed, Mythic does not read BW, so if u really want to complain about DF goto Vnboards. Arguments on BW like this do nothing but increase ppls blood pressure.
complaining on VN doesn't get anything nerfed either.
 
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behatch

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minstrels-role play of a bard i assume

Hmm bards

assasins?

er

NO!

+ lol at buffed avatar \o/
 
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Spix

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Originally posted by Eleasias
stealthzerg.jpg


My heart bleeds for you :O

Didnt manage to fit all the stealthers in same pic tho 8((


hehe nice one!


I will shut my Pie hole when it comes to stealth zergs and just join it.
I was trying to not go in groups but it is unavoidable.
There simply are no noble stealthers left that can brag that they used skill to get rr10.


And about the third stealth class.

Sure the realms are supposed to be different BUT stealth war are a bit different compared to normal groups. If it was 2vs2 or 1vs1 it doesnt matter much if you are a infil, ranger, scout, sb, minstrel, ns, hunter except some of the classes perform better then others head to head.

And it will be more obvious that it is a problem when people start team up in larger stealth groups as it tends to be.

I take an example.

4 sb 2 hunters against 4 infils 1 scout and a minstrel.

Minstrel AE Mezz or single mezz the 4 sbs while the infils kill the hunters and then kill the sbs one by one. There is no competiton.
The only counter is doing like albs always have, bring more people or stop play.


One of the purposes for having stealth is to be able to pick what target to engage and hide mostly from stronger classes and normal non stealth groups so it is possible to run solo.

In normal fights where infils unstealth me I can if not dotted or snared have a chanse to get away If I feel the fight will not be in my favour due to tag teamers.
Against stealthers with a minstrel in group there is no way you can get away.

And why bring in savages and healers into this thread, it is totaly irrelevant since there is counterparts in all three realms, maybe that they are not as good but it has nothing to do with this.
 
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Spix

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Originally posted by froler-mid
hoho @ Eleasias pic ^^




and too Spix, u TS:ed at AMG and dont expect a zerg too gank j00? qq


edit: TSing hunters must be zerged imo.


First of all, I dont have TS and second I didnt manage to get to AMG during the whole day yesterday , I got zerged between MTK and mmg, and dc x all times I tried.
 
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BidAccount

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Originally posted by behatch
minstrels-role play of a bard i assume

Hmm bards

assasins?

er

NO!

+ lol at buffed avatar \o/

Nope.

Only thing they share is speed.

Bard is a naturalist - same base class as a druid, so think healer with speed and mez.

Minstrel is a rogue - so think assassin minus critstrike, dw and poison but add speed and mez.

Not really comparable as a class tbh.
 
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behatch

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Originally posted by donttouchpoopy
Nope.

Only thing they share is speed.

Bard is a naturalist - same base class as a druid, so think healer with speed and mez.

Minstrel is a rogue - so think assassin minus critstrike, dw and poison but add speed and mez.

Not really comparable as a class tbh.

i'm talking about role play not what mythic says they are

what about then
mezz
DD
speed
spec weapons
have evade
power song
heal song

that enough comparasent for you?
 
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hotrat

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To the original screenie, lose the lame buffs and maybe I have some sympathy :)

Also alb is weak at normal rvr so to make up for it we are strong at stealth wars :)

Oh and stop saying minstrel with chain armor, omg unfair! I would take evade 7 over chain armor ANY DAY! (if i was a pure soloer). Mostly so I could spec thrust, but also cus in one on one evade > better armor.
 
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Spix

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Originally posted by hotrat
To the original screenie, lose the lame buffs and maybe I have some sympathy :)

Also alb is weak at normal rvr so to make up for it we are strong at stealth wars :)

Oh and stop saying minstrel with chain armor, omg unfair! I would take evade 7 over chain armor ANY DAY! (if i was a pure soloer). Mostly so I could spec thrust, but also cus in one on one evade > better armor.

I would take evade 7 anyday aswell...
Hunters get evade 2 as only defence fyi


And I buffed my pet after the third time I tried to get to mmg (my first goal..) Usualy dont even have it summoned before some fight start.
Actualy I would be the first to laugh if buffbots got nerfed but as long as there is buffbots I wont play without, Im easy enough to kill with them on.
Buffbots makes 90% of a whole specline for hunters useless since enemies can get better buffs by having bb.
 
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VodkaFairy

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The infil zerg of yesterday night was really bloody sick :p

6 camping mmg/mpk area

8 camping amg

and a few lose people running around

/hug Elajt :p
 
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iluvatur

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Hmmmm they could move from amg, but when you keep coming back and getting slaughtered, i would think its a nice source of realm points...

The fact that you're 'hunting' in overcrowded places isn't unlucky for you.... its just purely bad play
 
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Eleasias

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Originally posted by hotrat
Also alb is weak at normal rvr so to make up for it we are strong at stealth wars :)
Joke or are you still delusional? Alb is in no way any weaker than Hib is in normal RvR atm. (might be even stronger in the current state of tankalot)
 
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ormagaa

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Re: Re: Re: Re: depressing

Originally posted by froler-mid
amg is such trixxy place :(

ye, often gets stuck in the door while the pachealer tries to trixx the group through :\.

Maybe same with infils ;)
 
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Appollo

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Originally posted by Spix
First of all, I dont have TS and second I didnt manage to get to AMG during the whole day yesterday , I got zerged between MTK and mmg, and dc x all times I tried.

Then your doing something wrong, i played a SB for 1 night and got to atk on many occasions.
 
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Appollo

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Originally posted by VodkaFairy
The infil zerg of yesterday night was really bloody sick :p

6 camping mmg/mpk area

8 camping amg

and a few lose people running around

/hug Elajt :p

sorry 4 hitting your bard :( targetted u for a /hug but 4got weps were out :)
 
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Puppetmistress

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Originally posted by behatch
i'm talking about role play not what mythic says they are

what about then
mezz
DD
speed
spec weapons
have evade
power song
heal song

that enough comparasent for you?

It's the baseclass that defines if a class gets stealth, not abilities.

Rogue = stealth
Stalker = stealth

Naturalist = no stealth
Acolyte = no stealth
Seer = no stealth

The singer-classes (charisma based) all have different base-classes and thus a line (lines) they share from their base-class:

* Skald, viking. Gets parry from their base-class
* Minstrel, rogue. Gets stealth from their base-class
* Bard, naturalist. Gets regrowth and nurture from their base-class

While the things you mention look pretty similar on the 2 mentioned classes (bard and minstrel) they aren't. The bard is the main-CC'er of Hibernia. The minstrel is not.
 

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