Denmark-Sweden 2-2!! Bye Bye Italy!

[ilaya]

if u wanna talk about fixed matches.. get yourself a tape of West Germany v Austria (world cup spain 82)

compare.

its like saying Newcastle United and Sunderland would engineer a draw to give 1 team the title and save the other from relegation. WONT EVER HAPPEN!

if italy went out coz they werent good enough to beat either denmark or sweden.. tough.

still gonna maintain that the winner of euro 2004 of gonna be either denamrk/sweden/czech republic tho.. seen nothing to pursuade me otherwise.

and if my danish or swedish mates have fun if they do.. fair play gl everyone imo

 

[Dracus]

The odds of a 2-2 draw were low, very low. Yet they still got that result.

And no way this could happen without a fix? cause no other games ever have ended 2-2?

In most big tournaments some teams move on, only if a certain score happens...and this is the first time EVER that has happened?

Im not saying it wasnt a fix (altho i might be hinting ) but its hardly the first time something like this has happened

/Dracus

 

[fionnel]

Tbh people need to stop defending their countries' football clubs like it's really a matter of life or death or as if their own pride is at stake.

England is really not the best team so far in the tournament, they have won Swiss and Croatia but that doesn't yet prove anything, they have to show what they got against some more serious opponents.

And tbh imo both group C games were fixed Italy didn't put a goal in incidentally at 94' and Sweden didn't equalise incidentally at 90'
And you are wrong about another thing, a game doesn't need to get fixed before it starts, fixing it when it's at 75' is equally possible

And it's not like it's such a appaling thing to do, if Italy wanted to pass it could have won Sweden or Denmark.

As for proof, please, to have an opinion you don't have to get tape recordings of the coaches of the two teams speaking to each other and saying that they should fix the game. Fixed games don't happen like this. You are making an evaluation, you can judge a situation and have an opinion on what happened. And i have seen a lot of fixed games and you can have valid arguments this was one. And you can't really trust UEFA, they can't prove anything anyway.

And Austria-Germany is an example of a game fixed a bit too obviously, you can fix a game in a more discrete way ;p

 

[Iodine]

If anyone still fancies talking about fixed games, have a look at the referee that added 5min extra time to the Italy game while Sweden where down 1-2, and italy needed 1 goal to qualify.

If you had watched the Italy game you would of seen Bulgaria hacking the shit out of italy (very funny stuff ) so that much extra time is realistic.

Best part of the game was when the Italian striker thought he saved his country at the last minute only to be told that the other match was 2-2, priceless

 

[Damon_D]

Erm.. no, because I'm not the one acting like a cock? Get a clue mate.

but you wish you could.....

 

[Damon_D]

Some people seriously need to get a fucking clue. The odds of a 2-2 draw were low, very low. Yet they still got that result. It just so happens that a 2-2 result would take them both through. DAMN, WHAT LUCK.

To all you idiots who are about to reply with "but m8, it woz jst coinsidnce lolz!212," don't.

To the other people who'll reply with "m8, u cant proove nething!21!," you're right, I can't. Do I care? No. In my opinion, it was fixed.

Well imho you been fix'd too so :kissit:

 

[Iceforge]

Attention-seeker? I gave my opinion on the game and the attention came to me. I didn't ask for it. Paranoid? Hmm, yeah.


The fact that danes and swedes had 2-2 written on their foreheads and on banners before the match had even started pretty much proves what was going on last night.

Heard danish radio all day before the match, all danes (and swedes, they interviewed some swedes) was laughing and hoping the match would end 2-2 to serve the italians right, as we have never fixed a match and it was so laughable with their accussions, so, your point again?

 

[Thegreatest]

lol, you still dont understand anything

how pathetic to just reply to 1 little part of my post without reading the rest of it, and I 'still' dont understand it right? Cause you did explain something to me before? dont get you

 

[Matriarch|Sneakers]

Less QQ etc. :touch:

 

[Olgaline]

yup yup, and the england-france game was fixed too..cuase no.! way 1 team can score twice with in 2 mins of overtime.. and and...lets see here.and so was the holland-italy game of 2000, cause no.! way one team can mis 4 penalties in 1 game..2 during regular time, 2 during penalty kickout...so what are we saying here ? life time supply of pasta to the dutch? lifetime supply of renaults to the brits, and life time supply of volvo's to denmark ??...

to honestly suggest prefixed agreements in this day and age at a major championship is daft to say the least..
not only that one team should win but that both teams should end in a 2-2 draw ?? waay to risky to even attempt. way to much is at stake for both sides, and what if it had ended 1-1 or 2-1 to sweden ?? then italy would stil have been out..the italians had their backs to the wall even before the matches begun..they Had to win with at least 2 goals.if sweden won or they drawed 0-0 or 1-1 and they were no were near acheaving that..facts are

they should have lost vs denmark,
the 1-1 vs sweden was ok i guess
and they shouldnt have won vs bulgaria,

total they didnt deserve to go through, and instead of whining about fixed games they should have made sure that the result of the dk-swe game should have been negated concerning their further participation by at least beating one of them or scoring more goals..

and ps: as a coach once said : football isnt a matter of life and death, it's much more seriouse than that

 

[Coim]

Well imho you been fix'd too so :kissit:

A sentence that I can actually comprehend would be nice, thanks.

 

[OrreBorre]

Jeebus christopher i think everyone here needs to chill out a bit.

Just remember chaps, people will always have differeing opinions, we need to respect those differences. Personally i think there is a good chance the scoreline was, shall we say, predestined, but everyone can have an opinion on the matter.

Although Italy did deserve to go out... They really aren't the side they used to be in the 90's and need to sort themselves out and stop living on past glories.

We all know the English cheat as much as they can, imo the Argentina game last WC was fixed. You had bribed the refs

(England beating Argentina, COME ON. Not even Sven could make that happen in a fair way. )

 

[OrreBorre]

lolol, omigod England won 4-2. Croatia had so many chances, but they didn't score. Who did England pay this time?

seriously Dill ....

We all know the english cheat more than any other, they think they're so good but always end up doing something embarrassing l- ike playing 11 men vs 10 men and still letting 2 goals in. No chance in hell those grp stage games in the last World Cup werent fixed, they didn't have any quality players, just some pretty boys who were afraid of the ball. :touch:

 

[Gengi]

In the true spirit of off topicness, I object to a word being objected to by a poster who was deriding a posters lack of english writing skills when the word that was objected to in the first place was a perfectly valid word used in the context of the original post. And remember 1967 whoever said England ALWAYS bet Scotland
And the chap who claimed it was fixed because the bookies shortened the odds well, bookies will shorten the odds on anything even things which are highly improbable if enough punters put money on it. Christ insurance companies (posh bookies) will give you odds on being abducted ny aliens. All the bookies proved was that this was a popular bet.

later

 

[Eroa]

Some people seriously need to get a fucking clue. The odds of a 2-2 draw were low, very low. Yet they still got that result. It just so happens that a 2-2 result would take them both through. DAMN, WHAT LUCK.

To all you idiots who are about to reply with "but m8, it woz jst coinsidnce lolz!212," don't.

To the other people who'll reply with "m8, u cant proove nething!21!," you're right, I can't. Do I care? No. In my opinion, it was fixed.

Odds low and impossible arent the same thing. Watching that game i cant agree with it beeing fixed. And it aint realy the swedish mentality to do something like it either. Denmark had nothing to gain from going from 2-1 to 2-2 either so they must been realy stupid to do so. And comon, just cause they are both nordic teams would show even less chanse to of cheat since there is never more enemosity(sp?) then when nordic teams play eachother.

 

[Amelyn]

This is getting silly. Noone here is able to prove he is right and tbh who gives a toss. Ofc 2-2 was an unlikely score when the Italians had blown their 2-2 fears out of proportion, making it a cheaters score that everyone would find suspicious.
They succeded, and as proven in this thread people now think it was a rigged game. However to judge a games outcome by the odds and statistics it had pregame isn't really solid either. Many teams have scored in the last 10-mins this tournament, which is a common thing in the world of football. You unload all the offence your team has to win/draw. After the 2-1 goal Sweden had 4 attackers and offensive midfielders out there. Larsson Ibrahimovic Jonsson Allbäck Wilhelmsson Ljungberg. They deserved that goal, even though Denmark was the better team.

As Im swedish my opinion is pretty clear, It was a war on the field. Post-shots, remarkable saves by the goalies and both teams looked like they wanted to win.
However anyone is entitled to an opinion. Think whatever you want, it's your right to be wrong

 

[cuddled0rf]

If indeed it was fixed, sweden deserves to win gold for that shot behind a defence player, on the post then out again in heavy rain and mid air......if he can do that, it should be nps scoring 5 goals in each game

 

[Stinko]

Hmm, so it's ok until they're aimed at you? Captain Logical strikes again!

Well, Well... I were right in the first place. All you are is just a beeing in need of attention, an Attention Seeker. But please, seek attention outside Freddyshouse

 

[Stinko]

Fgs, how many times must I say it. The odds of a 2-2 actually happening were very low, there are so many other scorelines that could have happened, and the fact that the scoreline happened suspiciously (dodgy penalties, danes hesitating at good chances etc.) is why people, such as me, are questioning the game.

Can you get it in your head? Just because you feel it's common in England or Italy to fix matches, it's SOOOOOOOOOO remote in Sweden that it's unthinkable.

Like the coaches said to the press the day before the game: "Soccer is about pride and honor". You under stand that?? IN SWEDEN WE PLAY CUPMATCHES FOR PRIDE AND HONOR, not for winning

The game wasn't fixed!

 

[Ormorof]

the ONLY reason people think its fixed is because the italians whined..... if they hadnt, i doubt anyone would think it a strange result

 

[Stinko]

well the chzech republic beat holland, beat latvia.... will they beat germany too though?

Bang on, they did. Amazing team those Chzecks.

 

[Ivan]

Can you get it in your head? Just because you feel it's common in England or Italy to fix matches, it's SOOOOOOOOOO remote in Sweden that it's unthinkable.

Like the coaches said to the press the day before the game: "Soccer is about pride and honor". You under stand that?? IN SWEDEN WE PLAY CUPMATCHES FOR PRIDE AND HONOR, not for winning

The game wasn't fixed!

Imagine in a coach saying to the press : " No need to worry, we have the game fixed now .... so fret not "

 

[Rumpaton]

Fixing matches is common in england? I think it's more than we are more open to the possibility that these things do happen. I don't think it did but it could have.

 

[Stinko]

Fixing matches is common in england? I think it's more than we are more open to the possibility that these things do happen. I don't think it did but it could have.

Sorry but sarcasm doesn't show very well in plain text. Didn't mean to insult England and it's soccer community. It's just that this Dili vaguly imply that fixing is not so uncomming in England

 

[Stinko]

Imagine in a coach saying to the press : " No need to worry, we have the game fixed now .... so fret not "

Did you watch the pressconference?
It couldn't be denied in a more powerful way. If it's still true? Well then the coaches and the players all deserve 10 Oscars each 'cause I've never seen better acting.

 

[Nightchill]

Not sure if it's been mentioned, but the Danish camera crew that caught Totti spitting had a camera following him for the *entire* 90 minutes of that game; never leaving his face once.

Perhaps there's a secret Totti worshipping cult in Denmark?

 

[Olgaline]

Not sure if it's been mentioned, but the Danish camera crew that caught Totti spitting had a camera following him for the *entire* 90 minutes of that game; never leaving his face once.

Perhaps there's a secret Totti worshipping cult in Denmark?

yup.!
The spitting cobra's ?
Lama's united ?
the flying saliva brotherhood ?

 

[Ormorof]

Perhaps there's a secret Totti worshipping cult in Denmark?

no there isnt... of course there isnt!!! i mean errr.... he did it!! :touch:

though reason italians were out is because they have no penetration without totti

 

[Bolds]

This one made me laugh

Oh, and about Italy's departure from EC2004, if they had won against Sweden or Denmark they would've been through to the quater finals, but they didn't, so who's fault is it?

And about Spotti.. oh sorry, I mean Totti... Well, he's a professional footballplayer and he shouldn't lose his temper in that way, it happened, someone saw it and he had to pay the price for it. And whatever the danish defender did or said to him I bet Totti did or at least have done (and probably will do) far worse things.

 

[OrreBorre]

Imagine in a coach saying to the press : " No need to worry, we have the game fixed now .... so fret not "

The reason all of you think it was made up beforehand, is cause u know that is what ur countries would do. Well guess what - we're not a pair of stinking britts, italians, russians - we're swedes. We have honour, you don't.

And we're still unbeaten by England in modern football, gl in the semis if u can get there rofl.