Denmark Avatars

[Vladamir]

Noticed quite a few of these recently and i'm feeling a little uneducated as to why. Can anyone explain please?

Thanks :]

 

[Laddey]

I think it's to do with the Mohammed bla bla shizer.

 

[Blackjack]

Noticed quite a few of these recently and i'm feeling a little uneducated as to why. Can anyone explain please?

Thanks :]

It's because of the drawings published in the danish paper.
People have Denmark avatars. Not to support Denmark as such. But Free speech in general.
People support Denmark, not because they necessarily agree with the publishing of those images but because they feel we had a right to do so. And that islamic countries shouldn't go nuts in an attempt to censor a paper published half way around the globe.
We have become a "symbol" of the freedom of speech vs censorship battle that sprung up as a result of the drawings.

 

[Laddey]

It's because of the drawings published in the danish paper.
People have Denmark avatar. Not to support Denmark as such. But Free speech in general.
People support Denmark, not because the necessarily agree with the publishing of those images but because they feel we had a right to do so. And that islamic countries shouldn't go nuts in an attempt to censor a paper published half way around the globe.
We have become a "symbol" of the freedom of speech vs censorship battle that sprung up as a result of the drawings.

Well, that solved this thread! Welldone Blackjack

 

[Naffets]

It's because of the drawings published in the danish paper.
People have Denmark avatars. Not to support Denmark as such. But Free speech in general.
People support Denmark, not because they necessarily agree with the publishing of those images but because they feel we had a right to do so. And that islamic countries shouldn't go nuts in an attempt to censor a paper published half way around the globe.
We have become a "symbol" of the freedom of speech vs censorship battle that sprung up as a result of the drawings.

Indeed

 

[old.Tohtori]

We have become a "symbol" of the freedom of speech vs censorship battle that sprung up as a result of the drawings.

Quoting it, but not commenting on it because...we allready have a thread about this. Might say something nasty right now.

But also stating...*cough*...




...BULLSHIT!

 

[Blackjack]

Quoting it, but not commenting on it because...we allready have a thread about this. Might say something nasty right now.

But also stating...*cough*...

...BULLSHIT!

Interesting, you are in a combative mood today Toh, lets hear it then.
What do you find to be bullshit?

 

[DocWolfe]

nothing wrong with being patriotic imo.

 

[Bahumat]

the funny thing is we (uk) never showed it on tv nor in the papers iirc yet we will get the most riots etc, is their many muslims in denmark? cant imagine you got many ppl QQ'ing in Denmark?

 

[Ashala]

the funny thing is we (uk) never showed it on tv nor in the papers iirc yet we will get the most riots etc, is their many muslims in denmark? cant imagine you got many ppl QQ'ing in Denmark?

its true, we dont really feel it that much here in denmark, but pictures like this, really makes me wonder why we should apologize about what some dane drew

imagion what would happen if it was a muhammed being kicked and asked to "go to hell"

but i guess this is ok....

not to mention all the building that were destroyed by enraged muslims, recon we should apologize for that aswell then

 

[Thadius]

Funny thing is, they whine about Muhammed being used this way

Wait a minute, isnt the Danish flag a cross? And doesnt a cross on a flag mean that it was a Christian country back in the Dark Age of Crusadalot?

Ps, why have just an avatar?

http://www.bnp.org.uk/shopping/merchandise/item.php?id=589

 

[eggy]

http://www.tshirthell.com/store/pro...n&color=2:+CHOOSE+COLOR&size=3:+CHOOSE+A+SIZE

 

[Chap]

its true, we dont really feel it that much here in denmark, but pictures like this, really makes me wonder why we should apologize about what some dane drew

imagion what would happen if it was a muhammed being kicked and asked to "go to hell"

but i guess this is ok....

not to mention all the building that were destroyed by enraged muslims, recon we should apologize for that aswell then

There is a difference between what a large news paper publishes to provoke muslims and what some random people draws for a riot in jakarta.
Like 80% of FH generalize towards muslims, but I guess thats ok...

This is from the war that we in Denmark are apart of in coalition with american and english troops.
Dont think we need to apologize as the poor kid will prolly die, but I guess thats ok...

 

[Chap]

Funny thing is, they whine about Muhammed being used this way

Wait a minute, isnt the Danish flag a cross? And doesnt a cross on a flag mean that it was a Christian country back in the Dark Age of Crusadalot?

Ps, why have just an avatar?

http://www.bnp.org.uk/shopping/merchandise/item.php?id=589

It is perfectly legal to brun the danish flag in denmark as a part of freedom of speech...

 

[Ashala]

There is a difference between what a large news paper publishes to provoke muslims and what some random people draws for a riot in jakarta.
Like 80% of FH generalize towards muslims, but I guess thats ok...

This is from the war that we in Denmark are apart of in coalition with american and english troops.
Dont think we need to apologize as the poor kid will prolly die, but I guess thats ok...

im not saying that is ok, but your not staying on the subject, this is about the cartoon and the things that followed because of that....NOT the war in iraq or any other war for that matter, so go make a FH thread about that if you wonna discuss it, but leave it out of this thread

 

[Tasslehoff]

It is perfectly legal to brun the danish flag in denmark as a part of freedom of speech...

It's perfectly legal to draw the cartoons too...

 

[Chap]

It's perfectly legal to draw the cartoons too...

That is were you maybe wrong. We have a racism paragraf which sounds like this:

Den, der offentligt eller med forsæt til udbredelse i en videre kreds fremsætter udtalelse eller anden meddelelse, ved hvilken en gruppe af personer trues, forhånes eller nedværdiges på grund af sin race, hudfarve, nationale eller etniske oprindelse, tro eller seksuelle orientering, straffes med bøde eller fængsel indtil 2 år.

And imo if you draw muhammed with a bomb in his turban its a degradation to all muslims in general and to Islam, so hopefully this will protect any further unnecessary provokations.

 

[Chap]

im not saying that is ok, but your not staying on the subject, this is about the cartoon and the things that followed because of that....NOT the war in iraq or any other war for that matter, so go make a FH thread about that if you wonna discuss it, but leave it out of this thread

So you say that the aggression in muslim countries has absolutely nothing to with the war in Iraq. That is abit naive imo.

 

[Tasslehoff]

And imo if you draw muhammed with a bomb in his turban its a degradation to all muslims in general and to Islam, so hopefully this will protect any further unnecessary provokations.

Well, there is no direct message degrading muslims. I really doubt that law covers, what you, personally, find the message of some cartoons to be.

 

[eggy]

Chap there is no need to post direct pictures like that on here. At least give a link and a disclaimer saying it's graphic violent content.

 

[Chap]

Chap there is no need to post direct pictures like that on here. At least give a link and a disclaimer saying it's graphic violent content.

Yeah I agree, but the whole point is we dont see these pictures in the western medias because it has violent content and thats when we forget what is happening.

 

[[SS]Gamblor]

See it's happeneing again .....


listen , the 3 cartoons that where published are NOT the main cause of the problem where... There where 3 other cartoons there where NEVER draw by the artists , no where they EVER published.

Not to mention the fact that this QQ'ing as it was put , has taken over 5 months to come to this.

Listen depecting either Allah or his prophet is against the Korhan ( spelling ?).
So even though you don't believe in it's teaching , does that make it Right or wrong in your point of view ?

It shouldnt' matter, you should have enough respect from someone else's religon to accept some of thier customs if not all of them ( doesn't mean you have to convert or anything).

All i'm saying its , the cartoons that where published where wrong , end of story ( don't give me crap about freedom of speech , inciting racial tensions/hatred is not tollerated by most "civilised" and "modern" western countries.

And yes , going mental and burnign down buildings and beating up people is just crazy as well.

but there where wrongs on both sides , but neither side is willing to back down now , well maybe they are, but the media isn't making it easy.

All i ever hear is .. blah blah blah freedom of expresions blah blah blah.

No one seems to be getting all the facts , people just want to feel important and feel powerfull.

So cut the sh1t , let the crap die on it's own, If no one watches it , it will die a silent death.

 

[eggy]

we dont see these pictures in the western medias

Good, I'm glad we don't.

 

[Karl]

So you say that the aggression in muslim countries has absolutely nothing to with the war in Iraq. That is abit naive imo.

have to agree wiht you here.

 

[Ashala]

So you say that the aggression in muslim countries has absolutely nothing to with the war in Iraq. That is abit naive imo.

im saying that i was commenting on the effect the cartoons had and you suddenly link it to the war in iraq...

danish cartoon pictures = freedom of speach
your picture = war in iraq

im saying that its a diffrent subject, might be linked but its none the less diffrent

 

[Thorwyn]

Good, I'm glad we don't.

On the other hand: if people aren´t "forced" to see what´s going on, they tend to not believe it. Just like all those people who denied the Auschwitz genocide. They just couldn´t believe it until they were actually dragged through the concentration camps.
Let´s face it: by "hiding" all sorts of violent and graphical images, we already developed the phantom of a clean, chirurgical war and we started to take news about the war like football results, completely ignoring the real meaning of the events. I`m not saying we should all look at mauled bodies all the time. But occasionally, a reality check is needed.

 

[Rediknight]

This whole things pathetic.

I mean just f*cking pathetic - this whole thing is just the absolute pit of hypocracy, selective journalism, biased reporting and shit-stirring.

Chap - thanks a bunch - i DO know whats going on out there and pictures like that i DON'T NEED. You're an a-grade shit for posting that kind of stuff just because you ASSUME that the entire of the western world is ingnorant and need educating - thats one of the crux's of this whole "Islam -v- The Rest of The World" bullshit. From these extremist Muslims standpoint, I am an infidel - i am a non-believer and for my lack of "education" i must die. Well, thanks for that - glad i got you guys here to keep check on my life for me :|

I know and love a lot of Muslims, but they are REAL followers of the prophet, they are REAL followers of Islam.

Every single person who has ever said they follow a religion/religious sect and that their diety has told them they must harm, kill, behead, upset, provoke, destroy, burn, eradicate or ethinically cleanse, then any self-respecting leader of a country will turn around and say that that religion has no place in this country.

Equally, why doesn't the silent majority of Islam stand and denounce these over-reacting fascists? They have the voice, they have the ears of the people and all it would take is for one cleric to stand up and say that these people using terrorism and fear, violence and murder to push a belief (thats belief, not FACT, or GUARANTEED, BELIEF!!! No-one can prove it, therefore thats where it remains.) are not associated with them!! SHOW SOME BALLS!!!

Too many people in the UK and America are so narrow minded that they can't see the difference between the radical extremist bigots who are demanding the heads of infidels, and the peaceful, loving people who are the ones who really understand the teachings of Islam - without a visible totem of independance, that's gonna keep happening too - Islam needs to distance itself from the evil that is making this whole world pretty unbearable in recent months, from BOTH sides of the globe, with Western military incursions into middle eastern countries, AND with these zealots trying to fight fire with fire...

No-one wins. We all lose.

 

[old.Tohtori]

Interesting, you are in a combative mood today Toh, lets hear it then.
What do you find to be bullshit?

Oh i am. Tired of taking crap really

I find, to be bullshit, the premantioned line of "supporters for freedom of speach" to be an ironic, even hypocrite, way of thinking as in supporting denmark, you are saying that muslims should not riot over this, ergo, using their freedom of speach.

So...

*cough*

Bullshiet.

 

[Bahumat]

i think everyone should go read up on the freedom of speech, it only applies if you are not offending/insulting someone.

if i ran up to a police man and shouting "Die of aids fucking prick" i would expect to be arrested, freedom of speech does not apply and if you read the full rules you would all understand.

Drawing allah or a prophet is not allowed from what i can tell, i had no clue about that...maybe the Danes never knew either? if they never knew then its an honest mistake, how many people here knew of that rule (non muslims)

 

[Tasslehoff]

Oh i am. Tired of taking crap really

I find, to be bullshit, the premantioned line of "supporters for freedom of speach" to be an ironic, even hypocrite, way of thinking as in supporting denmark, you are saying that muslims should not riot over this, ergo, using their freedom of speach.

So...

*cough*

Bullshiet.

Yes burning embassies is EXACTLY what freedom of speech is all about, thank you Teh Seel for clarifying that.

*Cough*
Bullshit. (reversed or whatever )