News Deathblow for PHORM?

[rynnor]

The EU says it is illegal interception of data - the UK will be forced to outlaw it - hooray for the European Commission!

BBC NEWS | Technology | EC starts legal action on Phorm

 

[Ch3tan]

Bloody hell, the EC did something right??

 

[Zenith.UK]

I'm actually surprised!
Let's see Labour, BT and Phorm try and wriggle out of this one.
The EU took MS to court and WON. If the richest software company in the world loses cases (considering how many lawyers it employs), Phorm and BT haven't a hope.

YAY!

 

[rynnor]

I guess if they actually get people to opt in it will be legal but BT and Phorms view that they didnt need consent has been blown out of the water.

 

[Raven]

Hopefully, getting real tired of adverts on absolutely everything. Anything that hurts the industry is a good thing.

 

[DaGaffer]

Hopefully, getting real tired of adverts on absolutely everything. Anything that hurts the industry is a good thing.

No ads and you'll have to start paying for more stuff. TANSTAAFL.

 

[Tom]

Lost of ifs. Phorm might win a case. Or they might lose, and the UK tells the EU to fuckoff. Or the ISPs might just put a tickbox on all new contracts which by default allows Phorm access to that user's data.

 

[DaGaffer]

Lost of ifs. Phorm might win a case. Or they might lose, and the UK tells the EU to fuckoff. Or the ISPs might just put a tickbox on all new contracts which by default allows Phorm access to that user's data.

Reading the EU comments I don't think the tickbox scenario is an option (fortunately), as it seems the EU is questioning the whole "commercial organisations snooping on private data without a regulatory oversight" issue rather than Phorm in isolation.

Not that UKGov won't try to stitch its own population up anyway of course, but the one saving grace of NuLab since 1997 has been their utter incompetence, so I'd expect them to lose.

 

[Raven]

No ads and you'll have to start paying for more stuff. TANSTAAFL.

Suits me. At least then less dross would be produced that exists for the sole reason of carrying meaningless adverts.

 

[nath]

Early days perhaps but that's really good fucking news.

 

[DaGaffer]

Suits me. At least then less dross would be produced that exists for the sole reason of carrying meaningless adverts.

I'm sure loads of media owners would love to charge directly for content, but since most people routinely expect even good quality content to be free, and almost all media is now trivially easy to pirate, a big rise in paid content isn't going to happen. Expect to see more ad-funded content, not less; look what's happening in gaming.

Unfortunately, ad-funding doesn't cover the costs of content either (which is why, for instance, the owners of every news organisation in the world are shitting themselves right now). We're in a chase to the bottom, and the chances are we're going to end up with less choice, and lower quality as interesting work can't sustain itself from an audience unwilling to pay. Wisdom of The Crowds my arse.

 

[Ch3tan]

BBC NEWS | Technology | Home Office 'colluded with Phorm'

Home office colluding with Phorm.

 

[rynnor]

BBC NEWS | Technology | Home Office 'colluded with Phorm'

Home office colluding with Phorm.

Yes - shame the pandemic coverage will bury this - it's pretty disgusting tbh.

 

[Moriath]

if phorm is illegal interception of data what is the collection of allout internettransactions by the isp's for the government?

 

[MYstIC G]

"National Security"

 

[rynnor]

I love BigBrother!
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I love BigBrother!
I love BigBrother!
I love BigBrother!
I love BigBrother!

 

[Ch3tan]

if phorm is illegal interception of data what is the collection of allout internettransactions by the isp's for the government?

Better than the alternative of the government holding all the data centrally.

I do not have a problem with this as long as the rules are very clear on only accessing the data if it is to help with crime/ terrorism, not the kind of abuse that has made a mockery of current anti terror laws.

 

[Scouse]

Better than the alternative of the government holding all the data centrally.

I knew you'd fall for that cheap labour trick.

It's not the database I give a fuck about - it's the fact that someone will be watching my every move - just like having a big brother standing over my shoulder as I pull my pud to big and busty.

Surveillance is the issue. It's just too much power for any government.


If I'm being really really honest - I hope some nutjob loses his head over this and kills a member of the cabinet. Maybe blows himself up over it. I'd laugh hard and continue to laugh until my ass actually fell off.

Seems to me that unless politicians are scared of us (as they should be) then they'll do whatever the fuck they like...

 

[Ch3tan]

I'm not falling for it, I just feel it's inevitable that it happens. If it is to happen then I would rather it not centralised and run by the government. I know that they have not done this in the hopes it will get passed. Lets face it, this government is not scared of doing anything that goes against public opinion, they will do it if if gives them more power.

 

[nath]

It appears that thread resurrection is terribly in vogue today so I shall follow suit.

BBC NEWS | Technology | Phorm shares fall as BT opts out

Hurray! Hopefully they'll completely fold soon.

 

[nath]

BBC NEWS | Technology | TalkTalk drops ad tracking firm

And another - looks likely that it'll be all over for Phorm. What a pity .

 

[dysfunction]

Bloody hell, the EC did something right??

You would be quite surprised that the EU get quite a few things right...they are just not as well publicised as when they do something people don't reallt like...