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why not reroll sb/hunter zergs then 
turn prydwen into teh stealth zerg server.:great:
turn prydwen into teh stealth zerg server.:great:
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bigchief
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Originally posted by leviathane
why not reroll sb/hunter zergs then
They already have. Left emain cos of DS (not much to kill when theres rr10infs grp'd with mincers and others) so try odins. 7 SB/hunter and a healer run into amg and hit TS.
If you want a grp that large go fight the other realms large grps, you lot talk on irc enough to each other anyway, just organise a zone where you can stealth zerg in peace and leave the people that like to solo/duo somewhere to play fgs.
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Faravid
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Ok so the search on duskwave says it all???
well lets look at it this way then..
Albs 224+134+196= 554
Mids 225+123= 348
Hibs 137+136= 273
Even if you compare this way albion has about 200 YES 200 more stealthers then any realm!!
Well you cant compare that, thats just silly. You have to look at the real world and not count the "retired ones". Cause thats what your doing. Its like saying that Liverpool got an awesome team, comparing like they still got Ian Rush, John Barnes and others in there prime still around...
Currently in RvR there is LESS SBs out then hunters.. atleast that is the way I see it.. And to be honést I understand them after the LA nerf a SB is probably the most crappy char around. VERY LOW DMG and the fact that most SBs where Kobolds even made this issue worse.. There are some norse SBs out thats still trying, and I salute them for having the heart to continue after what was a RIDDICOULOS NERF.. Perhaps they needed a trimming, but instead they cut of one hand.. thats not a trimming thats a slaughter..
Well to continue in mids there are no upcoming SBs, some hunters are coming up, i guess that people is looking forward to playing hunter again after the see hidden(who feeded assassins with free rps) nerf. But even the nr of new hunters upcoming isnt that much. Most old hunters have also quit like I did during the worse SEE HIDDEN+ stealth zerg period..
To top it all hibs got some new players and that i find only to be a good thing but im guessing we gonna see alot more of HIB Stealthers. Even now there is more Hibstealthers in emain than ever before they are low RR but hey they will grow up and be mean. Leveling a stealther class isnt that easy, and im thinking most people in excal is taking the fast way to get a stealther and do a /level 30 ranger or nightshade on prydwen..
Well as I see it mids are allready outnumberd bye alb stealthers even more then DUSKWAVE shows.. and we got alot of upcoming Hib stealthers.. Mids are in for a rough ride..
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Faravid
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To sum it Up a RR11 known stealth zerger from albion got to try out a Nightshade in HIbernia on realm.. what does he see ?? Lots of upcoming Nightshades, and rangers using the level 30 command.. well he gets back to his own realm and analyses.. conclusion well he come up with
"WE NEED A EVEN BIGGER STEALTH ZEEERG, YES, YES, MORE WE NEED!!! AND ORGANIZE THEM I MUST"
Are you so afraid that you someday would go out and be spanked bye another Stealth from port to port. Well here is something to calm you down. DONT WORRY YOUR REALM GOT MINSTRELS.. there is no comparison in any realm to that stealther..
To top it off I just have to say that the whole of albion Realm are Idiots without any heart at all.. You can stand for hours and hours looking at albs massing at a PK, none even dare go out, hey even STEALTHERS IN ALBION ZERG..
Hibs are finally showing some strength in emain and that i dont see as anything bad, we are in their REALM THEY GOT EVERY RIGHT TO ZEEEERG US..Nice going Hibs.
Well how does it look in mid then well, most people Run alone and get killed bye the alb stealthers.
And when there finally comes along a decent group, albs whine about them.. tragic isnt it..
"WE NEED A EVEN BIGGER STEALTH ZEEERG, YES, YES, MORE WE NEED!!! AND ORGANIZE THEM I MUST"
Are you so afraid that you someday would go out and be spanked bye another Stealth from port to port. Well here is something to calm you down. DONT WORRY YOUR REALM GOT MINSTRELS.. there is no comparison in any realm to that stealther..
To top it off I just have to say that the whole of albion Realm are Idiots without any heart at all.. You can stand for hours and hours looking at albs massing at a PK, none even dare go out, hey even STEALTHERS IN ALBION ZERG..
Hibs are finally showing some strength in emain and that i dont see as anything bad, we are in their REALM THEY GOT EVERY RIGHT TO ZEEEERG US..Nice going Hibs.
Well how does it look in mid then well, most people Run alone and get killed bye the alb stealthers.
And when there finally comes along a decent group, albs whine about them.. tragic isnt it..
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Solthyann
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Ah well seems you had fun, certainly caught a few of us by surprise. As for the comment on page 1 about "Hib and Mid stealthers lacking leaderhship etc....." what you mean is we're lacking Mincers 
and as for saying not many Minis are in RvR??!!? Well every time I find more than one Alb stealther together then one of them is Mincing - anyway I'm not worried about it, have fun grinding them under my tiny foot (and, equally so, getting mezzed and whacked)
Anyway I'm enjoying stealth life atm, over 40k RPs this weekend is pretty good for a casual RvR players if you ask me and Hibs in Odins, unlike Piojo's comments, are pretty well organised on the whole...
[8 took out 7 camped Mid stealthers without a single loss at AMG last night]
...although there are always exceptions, and we're having fun. I'll just say good luck while it lasts but, after your previous comments about not joining a group of more than 3 or 4, you've got to expect a strong whine from a lot of people (not me though, I must be about the only person never to have run across you)
and as for saying not many Minis are in RvR??!!? Well every time I find more than one Alb stealther together then one of them is Mincing - anyway I'm not worried about it, have fun grinding them under my tiny foot (and, equally so, getting mezzed and whacked)Anyway I'm enjoying stealth life atm, over 40k RPs this weekend is pretty good for a casual RvR players if you ask me and Hibs in Odins, unlike Piojo's comments, are pretty well organised on the whole...
[8 took out 7 camped Mid stealthers without a single loss at AMG last night]
...although there are always exceptions, and we're having fun. I'll just say good luck while it lasts but, after your previous comments about not joining a group of more than 3 or 4, you've got to expect a strong whine from a lot of people (not me though, I must be about the only person never to have run across you)
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Juiliet
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Such copycats, me and Roga made stealthguild ages back
It died when we retired though
Nah, seriously, great work, if i ever decide to start playing inf again id be intrested in joining, just the kind of initiative taken thats needed to keep rvr intresting, and after all, thats what we're all after, intresting rvr.
For the people that are talking about the zergs, i really wonder when you see theese? At the moment it seems mids, hibs and albs run around in full groups killing each other like they should, with the occasional add, due to emain not being very large.
The realms are big, and more than 8 people want to rvr at the same time often. I have yet so far to see any two groups work togheter in any organised way(cant be angry at people for accidentially being at the same place, at the same time), since i came out of retirement, and i like it.
It died when we retired though
Nah, seriously, great work, if i ever decide to start playing inf again id be intrested in joining, just the kind of initiative taken thats needed to keep rvr intresting, and after all, thats what we're all after, intresting rvr.
For the people that are talking about the zergs, i really wonder when you see theese? At the moment it seems mids, hibs and albs run around in full groups killing each other like they should, with the occasional add, due to emain not being very large.
The realms are big, and more than 8 people want to rvr at the same time often. I have yet so far to see any two groups work togheter in any organised way(cant be angry at people for accidentially being at the same place, at the same time), since i came out of retirement, and i like it.
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Svartur
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Oh well, hope you have fun in empty emain.
Wont groupgank me much more, when you want a "real" fight msg me on irc and I'll log on.
Until then, zerg all you want.
Thought you where coming to your sences there for a while, promising to keep groups small etc.
Wont groupgank me much more, when you want a "real" fight msg me on irc and I'll log on.
Until then, zerg all you want.
Thought you where coming to your sences there for a while, promising to keep groups small etc.
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Svartur
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And for you stealth-zergers, regular zergers and wolfpacks out there I am gonna quote the native americans:
Only when last hib have been slained
Only when the last mid have been caught
Only when the last keep has fallen
Only then will you understand that RP cannot be eaten
Thanks and goodbye y'all
I'll be around until my account run out I think
Only when last hib have been slained
Only when the last mid have been caught
Only when the last keep has fallen
Only then will you understand that RP cannot be eaten
Thanks and goodbye y'all
I'll be around until my account run out I think
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Eheh
This one is actually funny and wise as a sentence
Originally posted by Svartur
And for you stealth-zergers, regular zergers and wolfpacks out there I am gonna quote the native americans:
Only when last hib have been slained
Only when the last mid have been caught
Only when the last keep has fallen
Only then will you understand that RP cannot be eaten
Thanks and goodbye y'all
I'll be around until my account run out I think
This one is actually funny and wise as a sentence
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Falcon
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ToA will solve all your problems,
- prescience node = no more camping AMG for you Mistar Infiltrator!!!1111111
- see hidden sheild = equippable by rangers, hi der Mistar Infiltrator!1 I can see you!!111111
- staff of the gods = hello Mistar Infiltrator coming towards me, what that? you want to PA me? What? You can't catch me? Nuke, nuke, root, move, nuke nuke nuke. Where did you go Mistar infiltrator!!!!111111
ToA stealth changes finally bring a degree of skill back to stealthing and screw zergs like this royally, not to mention a couple of uber artifacts only level up from SOLO kills, meaning all the zergfils aint gonna be able to get them, and if they zerg ungrouped for them they'll be low durability by the time they reach level 10 and wont last 5mins.
Of course not just infils are effected by all this, other assassins are too, but no other assassins zerg like infils really so it's infils that are gonna bite the bullet on this one.
- prescience node = no more camping AMG for you Mistar Infiltrator!!!1111111
- see hidden sheild = equippable by rangers, hi der Mistar Infiltrator!1 I can see you!!111111
- staff of the gods = hello Mistar Infiltrator coming towards me, what that? you want to PA me? What? You can't catch me? Nuke, nuke, root, move, nuke nuke nuke. Where did you go Mistar infiltrator!!!!111111
ToA stealth changes finally bring a degree of skill back to stealthing and screw zergs like this royally, not to mention a couple of uber artifacts only level up from SOLO kills, meaning all the zergfils aint gonna be able to get them, and if they zerg ungrouped for them they'll be low durability by the time they reach level 10 and wont last 5mins.
Of course not just infils are effected by all this, other assassins are too, but no other assassins zerg like infils really so it's infils that are gonna bite the bullet on this one.
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Damon_D
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HEHE why the fuck do you think we are not active ... Sure you gonna use every advantage you get , I'll be using mine with the SAVAGE I'm lvl'ing , have a nice day........
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Give more stealthers that run into pbae or unstealth rdy to add on a fight as we come up from behind. It's a lot less hassle to kill the albs now than when they were running in balanced FGs.
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chamone
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I have to say looking at the screeny theres a lot of blokes playing female chars.. pussy zerg for de pussys.. saw lots of middy stealthers going solo against them alst night though.. enough said..
I have to say looking at the screeny theres a lot of blokes playing female chars.. pussy zerg for de pussys.. saw lots of middy stealthers going solo against them alst night though.. enough said..
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Tesla Monkor
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I was about to post what Xest already did..
ToA will end the Stealth zerg, if not the stealth class. Better start levelling up your alts, because playing an assassin/archer is going to be hell.
No, it will not be 'skill'. It will be pure frustration. DAoC does not need any skill to play. Just luck.
ToA will end the Stealth zerg, if not the stealth class. Better start levelling up your alts, because playing an assassin/archer is going to be hell.
No, it will not be 'skill'. It will be pure frustration. DAoC does not need any skill to play. Just luck.
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old.Jeriraa
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Originally posted by Aoln
For all we know that could be taken at about 4 am
Yeah, bcz thats when Albs attack our keeps with 5 people... if it was taken at peak time it would more be like 50.
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Damon_D
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What he said..
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old.Morchaoron
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Originally posted by vukstinaitor
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Fafnir
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Pretty fun evertime you uncover infils, they run like hell, never had 1 stand and fight. And only seen 3 solo stealthers lately, Mince, Arauddry, and some scout. The rest need 1 vs 4 odds to dare to attack, and perhaps add a mob to that.
Seems the thrust infils loose their nerve when uncovered even when they have their evade style 4 teh win.
Seems the thrust infils loose their nerve when uncovered even when they have their evade style 4 teh win.
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Tafaya Anathas
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Too bad that See Hidden doesn't affects infils
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Falcon
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The new See Hidden items in ToA DO effect Infils fyi.Originally posted by Tafaya Anathas
Too bad that See Hidden doesn't affects infils
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Aoln
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Not as if it's only hibs who'll get these items.
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klavrynd
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all you need is persistence
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Falcon
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Read up, I never said it was, but it'll be the stealth zergs (read Infil zergs at AMG) that are gonna get hit the hardest by these abilities and items. The stealthers able to survive them are the ones who can fight other than obvious camp spots.
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bonna
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well i have a fun time . i rarely go rvr at all. even hte door bug thing was news to me . i do alts and pve 
and im still poor!
damn housing.
any way . took my 50 matter caba for a run in odin .. got as far as bottom of apk hill when i was shot at by a ranger . pet soon stopped htat . but then fg hibs join in.
went to odin ... made it passed stealther gank point . (the little clump of trees a little way up from apk) . got to amg . and a guild member says fg mids at apk . heh dunno how we missed each other. w8ed in amg tower still i didnt die . fg mids comes back to amg . 4 hibs there . i didnt see them at first . so i aoe dot the lot \o/ not that it was going to do much as caba dot is shit. 60 a tick or less . so the misd laughed or something or didnt see me . they killed the hibs and ran off . so off i went to crim. ran behind it . trying to miss the guards . went south to the next keep . asked where hibs exp
heading over to bolg . went to gorge, got lost trying to find the lake . and found 3 hib . musta been about lv 42/44 . yeelows . but they died easyer ( tho i did wait for them to pull) ^^
had 3 green con mobs on them ( to me anyway)
they was winning easyer . but my aoe dot and nukes soon stopped that . then guards got meh awww ... what no stealther about today! normaly i only get as far as amg ...
them hibs were only worth about 250/300 rps each .. ah well most rps ive made in 6 months . i had fun ( at least on that char) made a few k on my arms when i grouped with sycho in df
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Falcon says:
ToA will solve all your problems,
- prescience node = no more camping AMG for you Mistar Infiltrator!!!1111111
- see hidden sheild = equippable by rangers, hi der Mistar Infiltrator!1 I can see you!!111111
- staff of the gods = hello Mistar Infiltrator coming towards me, what that? you want to PA me? What? You can't catch me? Nuke, nuke, root, move, nuke nuke nuke. Where did you go Mistar infiltrator!!!!111111
ToA stealth changes finally bring a degree of skill back to stealthing and screw zergs like this royally, not to mention a couple of uber artifacts only level up from SOLO kills, meaning all the zergfils aint gonna be able to get them, and if they zerg ungrouped for them they'll be low durability by the time they reach level 10 and wont last 5mins.
Of course not just infils are effected by all this, other assassins are too, but no other assassins zerg like infils really so it's infils that are gonna bite the bullet on this one.
yay bout time! . i take it my casters get this too and i see sb/ns?
what about some arms love next eh? get bored of being a gimp
and im still poor!damn housing.
any way . took my 50 matter caba for a run in odin .. got as far as bottom of apk hill when i was shot at by a ranger . pet soon stopped htat . but then fg hibs join in
.went to odin ... made it passed stealther gank point . (the little clump of trees a little way up from apk) . got to amg . and a guild member says fg mids at apk
. heh dunno how we missed each other. w8ed in amg tower still i didnt die . fg mids comes back to amg . 4 hibs there . i didnt see them at first . so i aoe dot the lot \o/ not that it was going to do much as caba dot is shit. 60 a tick or less . so the misd laughed or something or didnt see me . they killed the hibs and ran off . so off i went to crim. ran behind it . trying to miss the guards . went south to the next keep . asked where hibs exp heading over to bolg . went to gorge, got lost trying to find the lake . and found 3 hib . musta been about lv 42/44 . yeelows . but they died easyer ( tho i did wait for them to pull) ^^
had 3 green con mobs on them ( to me anyway)
they was winning easyer . but my aoe dot and nukes soon stopped that
. then guards got meh awww ... what no stealther about today! normaly i only get as far as amg ... them hibs were only worth about 250/300 rps each .. ah well most rps ive made in 6 months . i had fun
( at least on that char) made a few k on my arms when i grouped with sycho in df ---
Falcon says:
ToA will solve all your problems,
- prescience node = no more camping AMG for you Mistar Infiltrator!!!1111111
- see hidden sheild = equippable by rangers, hi der Mistar Infiltrator!1 I can see you!!111111
- staff of the gods = hello Mistar Infiltrator coming towards me, what that? you want to PA me? What? You can't catch me? Nuke, nuke, root, move, nuke nuke nuke. Where did you go Mistar infiltrator!!!!111111
ToA stealth changes finally bring a degree of skill back to stealthing and screw zergs like this royally, not to mention a couple of uber artifacts only level up from SOLO kills, meaning all the zergfils aint gonna be able to get them, and if they zerg ungrouped for them they'll be low durability by the time they reach level 10 and wont last 5mins.
Of course not just infils are effected by all this, other assassins are too, but no other assassins zerg like infils really so it's infils that are gonna bite the bullet on this one.
yay bout time! . i take it my casters get this too and i see sb/ns?
what about some arms love next eh? get bored of being a gimp
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Qwegji-
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Aye, stealth lore in toa is a bit over powered atm. Anyone with it seems to get See Hidden that works on any stealther including assassins.
http://synapse7777.tripod.com/cgi-bin/stealthtest1.jpg <---- need to copy and paste this one
http://synapse7777.tripod.com/cgi-bin/stealthtest1.jpg <---- need to copy and paste this one
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Shike
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haha roll on ToA! Gonna enjoy all the whines from the hyenas
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old.Downanael
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Originally posted by Shike
haha roll on ToA! Gonna enjoy all the whines from the hyenas
Now that's nerfable! /hugs his Camouflage and show's long nose to infils
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Argh...
I wanted to finally roll that stealther I always wanted :<.
Maybe not such a good idea.
I wanted to finally roll that stealther I always wanted :<.
Maybe not such a good idea.
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Falcon
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If a stealther has a stealth lore item it gives the opposite effect. Meaning a stealther with a stealth lore item, say for example this one:
Gets equivalent +22 stealth to both their detect radius and their radius to be detected. So someone with previously maybe, 35 +15 (50) stealth spec, can get equivalent 72 stealth from this for purposes of hiding from and seeing enemies. That means archers can now not only fully hide from a non stealth-lore assassin but also can see the assassin first.
Assassins can still do well but they're gonna have to work damn hard to stay ahead of the game in ToA because there's a lot of tools stacked against them. Archers cop it too but luckily, not as bad as assassins and an archer that puts the time in to get and level these items is going to become the hunter of assassins that don't as opposed to previously being the hunted by all assassins.
Gets equivalent +22 stealth to both their detect radius and their radius to be detected. So someone with previously maybe, 35 +15 (50) stealth spec, can get equivalent 72 stealth from this for purposes of hiding from and seeing enemies. That means archers can now not only fully hide from a non stealth-lore assassin but also can see the assassin first.
Assassins can still do well but they're gonna have to work damn hard to stay ahead of the game in ToA because there's a lot of tools stacked against them. Archers cop it too but luckily, not as bad as assassins and an archer that puts the time in to get and level these items is going to become the hunter of assassins that don't as opposed to previously being the hunted by all assassins.