David cocking Blunkett

[anattic]

More good news for the shiny new Home Secretary:

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/4100481.stm

Resignation as the ultimate form of spin...?

 

[Calaen]

I also didnt think he was to bad tbh, the whole passport thing is a bit of a farce brought upon by some cheap whore who has nothing other than getting her name in the papers.

I dont give a shit either about him abusing his position to get stuff, there aint a person in the world who would not use there position to the benefit of themselves.

Non of the parties are anygood and im sick of the twats getting paid just to say the exact opposite of each other just to feel good. The country is never going to change, we have a large influence of complete morons being born and walking the streets everyday (Chavs) and until this phase passes the future is bleak... They are a drain on society and will continue to be. Until they get punished properly for there crimes.

The NHS is a shambles and that is not going to change no matter who is in charge of it, we got thousands of people abusing their own bodies with Alcohol, Cigarettes & Drugs then pissing and moaning when thy dont get treated fast. Im sick to shit of it, why should everyone have to listen to the crap when is self inflicted. I dont make all the money in the world but I pay for Private health care.

Well im glad I got that off my chest. No doubt my views will differ from others but please if your gonna say anything make it constructive like what do you really think.


Stephen.

 

[dysfunction]

I dont give a shit either about him abusing his position to get stuff, there aint a person in the world who would not use there position to the benefit of themselves.

That is commonly known as corruption and is bad...mmmkay

 

[Marc]

I think has more to do with the fact he trashed the rest of the cabinet in his book rather than because he fast tracked a visa tbh.

 

[anattic]

Obligatory Topical T-Shirt Link

 

[Tom]

aahaha excellent

 

[oblimov]

kinda shows the state of todays society and its morals when the politicians are more enraged with him stating a few clear talking facts about them rather than him impregnating a married woman

 

[Tom]

You can talk about morals, but the man is in a public office. That places him on a very high pedestal indeed. One thing you don't do is misuse that office in any way, and it seems very certain that he did exactly that, and then feigned ignorance.

Also, the only reason he got in that position of power was because he placed the ideals of a party system above his own beliefs (as does anybody who wants to be a minister). You don't then start bitching about your cabinet collegues publically, and then expect to remain part of that system.

Anyway, for me the above is irrelevant. What matters is, a nannying controlling power crazed idiot has left his position, hopefully to the benefit of us all. Its just a shame that so many people can't see it.

 

[Calaen]

Anyway, for me the above is irrelevant. What matters is, a nannying controlling power crazed idiot has left his position, hopefully to the benefit of us all. Its just a shame that so many people can't see it.

See what??? That another mornic loser who gets paid for nothing other than spouting crap at a bench of other bullshitting twats.

At the end of the day the reason he has gone is because of his comments about his work mates. so dislike alot of the people I work with and if they asked me Id tell them.

With regards to him getting another Woman pregnant while married. This is just another messed up relationship. This crap goes on everyday all over the world regardless of what you do.. He is only human aslong as he was not telling her anything she shouldnt know whats the problem with sleeping with her? non what so ever!!!!

Stephen

 

[Tom]

Hes in a position of responsibility. He must be seen to uphold the moral values that a Christian country demands. And no, sleeping with married women is not ok, especially not when you're the Home Secretary.

Your comments show a total lack of ignorance of how this country and its government works.

 

[Chilly]

I also didnt think he was to bad tbh, the whole passport thing is a bit of a farce brought upon by some cheap whore who has nothing other than getting her name in the papers.

Excuse me but would you mind fucking right off? That is not true, the last thing she needed was to get her name in the papers, because doing so fucked up her marriage to her husband (my uncle in law) and probably cost her her job at the Spectator. She may have abused blunkett a bit asking him to do inappropriate things but she was not purely attention grabbing, just to make that clear.

 

[rynnor]

Expect to see him back in government when Blair quits and Brown gets in.

Tilda

Nah - for 2 reasons - 1 he insulted Clarke in his bio and 2. hes one of tonies cronies so in the opposing camp to clarke.

 

[Vae]

Excuse me but would you mind fucking right off? That is not true, the last thing she needed was to get her name in the papers, because doing so fucked up her marriage to her husband (my uncle in law) and probably cost her her job at the Spectator. She may have abused blunkett a bit asking him to do inappropriate things but she was not purely attention grabbing, just to make that clear.

Um I think youu've gone over the top a bit as the "cheap whore" I think Calaen was refering to was the nanny who sold her story to the papers.

 

[Damini]

Excuse me but would you mind fucking right off? That is not true, the last thing she needed was to get her name in the papers, because doing so fucked up her marriage to her husband (my uncle in law) and probably cost her her job at the Spectator. She may have abused blunkett a bit asking him to do inappropriate things but she was not purely attention grabbing, just to make that clear.

I don't know, call me old fashioned, but surely a marriage is slightly fucked up by getting pregnant twice by another man?

 

[Tilda]

I don't know, call me old fashioned, but surely a marriage is slightly fucked up by getting pregnant twice by another man?

You're old fashioned!
And also damn right

 

[Paradroid]

I don't know, call me old fashioned, but surely a marriage is slightly fucked up by getting pregnant twice by another man?

Perhaps this is the reason why Tom has referred to him as David "Cocking" Blunkett, he obviously fears the mans predatory sexual behaviour and sees him as a threat....nothing to do with ID cards'n'such.

 

[Marc]

Excuse me but would you mind fucking right off? That is not true, the last thing she needed was to get her name in the papers, because doing so fucked up her marriage to her husband (my uncle in law) and probably cost her her job at the Spectator. She may have abused blunkett a bit asking him to do inappropriate things but she was not purely attention grabbing, just to make that clear.

while i feel sorry for your uncle in law who to be honest is the innocent party in all this,

The last thing she needed was to get her name in the papers?

What did she expect????????????????????????

If you have an affair with a high ranking cabinet minister, and get pregnant by him (if it is indeed Blunkets) do you really expect the papers NOT to have a field day?

Play with fire, you get burnt, simple as.

 

[DaGaffer]

Um I think youu've gone over the top a bit as the "cheap whore" I think Calaen was refering to was the nanny who sold her story to the papers.

Nah, pretty sure it wasn't the nanny Calaen was referring to.

 

[Calaen]

Hes in a position of responsibility. He must be seen to uphold the moral values that a Christian country demands. And no, sleeping with married women is not ok, especially not when you're the Home Secretary.

Your comments show a total lack of ignorance of how this country and its government works.

My point is the government will never work.. Christian country my arse. you can sleep with who you want when you want aslong as they are willing participants tbh.

 

[maxi]

I also didnt think he was to bad tbh, the whole passport thing is a bit of a farce brought upon by some cheap whore who has nothing other than getting her name in the papers.

I dont give a shit either about him abusing his position to get stuff, there aint a person in the world who would not use there position to the benefit of themselves.

Non of the parties are anygood and im sick of the twats getting paid just to say the exact opposite of each other just to feel good. The country is never going to change, we have a large influence of complete morons being born and walking the streets everyday (Chavs) and until this phase passes the future is bleak... They are a drain on society and will continue to be. Until they get punished properly for there crimes.

The NHS is a shambles and that is not going to change no matter who is in charge of it, we got thousands of people abusing their own bodies with Alcohol, Cigarettes & Drugs then pissing and moaning when thy dont get treated fast. Im sick to shit of it, why should everyone have to listen to the crap when is self inflicted. I dont make all the money in the world but I pay for Private health care.

Looks like you've got it sussed mate. Send your views in a letter to your local MP and before you know it Blair himself will be quoting from it has he resigns, in favour of err...what exactly? You better put forth your alternative, so he knows what to do after he quits.

I say this often enough, but you have to LOOK AT THE REASONS PEOPLE DO WHAT THEY DO. THE DEEP ROOTED, GENERATIONS OLD *REASONS* not "i wanna get wasted", "i like stealing cars, and defending my manor, sorting out lippy *****" the REAL reason people behave the way they do. People are not born thieves, durg addicts or alcoholics...life is one of the main factors in shaping a person, and if your life has nothing else to offer but these things, if you know no better, then you're going to do all the bad things. Punishment does not solve problems, prevention is the key, prevention coems from education and helping toward increasing the quality of life for the people most likely to end up in a bad way.

Look at the Country Side alliance. Probably never had to deal with the law in their life, ina bad way, it protects them as does their social status and way of life, as soon that's questioned...the same law abiding peoople justify breaking the law. the justify it, just like the 'chavs' you talk about.

a huge problem at the moment is that it's become fashionable to hate and detest chavs, like the gypsies a few years back. Understanding is out of the window and suddenly everyone who wears a tracksuit and some gold is a fucking villian.

and what the FUCK are you talking about when you say 'punishment for the crimes?' you sound like a fucking Nazi.
and tom, did you mean "a total lack of ignorance" ?

 

[Xepheus]

RE: David Blunkett.. I don't have a problem with the ID cards themselves, I personally would happily take one, as long as the law is strict on their useage, and restricts who can demand to see them.... but now he's quit, will it still go though?

As for voting, I REALLY want to vote for the green party (yes, I'm that much of a liberal), but I know it would be a wasted vote (which is a shame, although I personally would call it a protest vote)... So I think I might go for lib dem (which, traditioinaly would have been a wasted vote, but I think, more and more, lib dem are gaining support).

To the original poster, if you're against people enforcing strict rules like that, are you sure going further right (in the direction of the tory party) is such a great idea? If you're against such things, are you not better going left?

 

[Tom]

and tom, did you mean "a total lack of ignorance" ?

oops no heheh

 

[Chilly]

I don't know, call me old fashioned, but surely a marriage is slightly fucked up by getting pregnant twice by another man?

Yeah ok, fair point. But theres a difference between a marriange getting fucked up cos of affairs and a marriage getting fucked up because of an affair with the home fucking secretary and then it being in every newspaper in europe for a week at least.
Worst is now I dont get to see em at my aunt's christmas eve party where they always hand out tonnes of good shit (my uncle in law is editor for Vogue UK) to give to birds I know

 

[Gengi]

Looks like you've got it sussed mate. Send your views in a letter to your local MP and before you know it Blair himself will be quoting from it has he resigns, in favour of err...what exactly? You better put forth your alternative, so he knows what to do after he quits.

True, alternatives must be given. How about we give these poor misunderstood, despondent, dispossessed, failed people more money, to pursue their education so that becomes less of a problem, then we can rehabilitate their parents and grandparents, if they are still alive. Possibly we can separate them from the environment in which they live, so that it does not affect them in a bad way.

I say this often enough, but you have to LOOK AT THE REASONS PEOPLE DO WHAT THEY DO. THE DEEP ROOTED, GENERATIONS OLD *REASONS* not "i wanna get wasted", "i like stealing cars, and defending my manor, sorting out lippy *****" the REAL reason people behave the way they do. People are not born thieves, durg addicts or alcoholics...life is one of the main factors in shaping a person, and if your life has nothing else to offer but these things, if you know no better, then you're going to do all the bad things. Punishment does not solve problems, prevention is the key, prevention coems from education and helping toward increasing the quality of life for the people most likely to end up in a bad way.

Nature over nurture, obviously nurture is the prevailing trait in the spread of chavdom, see above for ways to release the poor misguided chavs from their misery.

Look at the Country Side alliance. Probably never had to deal with the law in their life, ina bad way, it protects them as does their social status and way of life, as soon that's questioned...the same law abiding peoople justify breaking the law. the justify it, just like the 'chavs' you talk about.

So whats the social status that protects the shopkeeper in the small village who just went bust because Saturdays and Sundays no longer bring in 3 times as much money as the rest of the week. The young stablehand, now has no job and very little prospect of finding one in or about their village/district and so now has to move to a city to find work. The country side alliance was not really about class, which I assume you mean by 'social status', it was about a way of life which is being destroyed because a vocal group said that hunting with dogs was cruel, which if your a fox I am sure it is. So now we are going to create a subclass of countrychavs, who have nothing to do because their employment and social activity has been taken away, much as happened in the cities where chavs came from. So now we have equality of chavdom for the city and the country, utopia.

a huge problem at the moment is that it's become fashionable to hate and detest chavs, like the gypsies a few years back. Understanding is out of the window and suddenly everyone who wears a tracksuit and some gold is a fucking villian.

and what the FUCK are you talking about when you say 'punishment for the crimes?' you sound like a fucking Nazi.

It is true, chavs are the new gypsies, the new subclass which we can all look down upon, except their were very few 'Gypsies' in among the travellers of 'a few years back' and the ideals the travellers espoused were libertarian, as far as I could make out, rather than the current crop of anti-establishment/authority due to a lack of morality, which you quite rightly point out is a feature of the environment in which the current subclass is in.

You do not need to profess a religion to have a moral code, or to have an ethical outlook on life. I think certain sections of society have lost this outlook on life.

I believe it can be summed up in a single sentence, 'There ain't no such thing as a free lunch'. And lurching to the right in the law and order arena a'la Blunkett is in my opinion not the right way to go. Locking up recividists on the other hand is.

If that made any sense, it was a fluke

later

 

[maxi]

Um, yeah. I'm not saying that criminals shouldn't be punished to some degree for the crimes they commit. As it stands, we can't just give an entire generation of people a get out of jail free card. The problem has already appeared, the damage is done for certain people, sadly. What I am saying is that long term, it aint going to solve anything. It's self perpetuating, and we need to do something to break the cycle.

 

[JBP|]

Well im my opinion the sooner we scrap,

a] family tax credits
b] income support
c] council tax benifits
d] free homes to teen mothers and assylum seekers

The better off this country will be.

Then we could bring back the death penalty on a 3 strikes and your out basis.

Also while we are doing that lets turn all motorways into toll roads and ban caravans and lorries from using them.

If these simple ideas we implemented this country would be back on its feet i no time i reckon.

 

[RandomBastard]

Well im my opinion the sooner we scrap,

a] family tax credits
b] income support
c] council tax benifits
d] free homes to teen mothers and assylum seekers

The better off this country will be.

Then we could bring back the death penalty on a 3 strikes and your out basis.

Also while we are doing that lets turn all motorways into toll roads and ban caravans and lorries from using them.

If these simple ideas we implemented this country would be back on its feet i no time i reckon.

You ban lorries from motorways and you will bring this country to its knees not its feet. No food will reach supermarkets, no goods will reach shops, no gigs will ever be set up, NO BEER WILL REACH PUBS

A better idea for getting this country on its feet is to formally declare the chav a human sub species, and make them into slaves.

 

[oPless]

hello JBP| !1
My opteron is sam !
tax cerdit gives me crap!

deth penalty good also, get rid of bad footsbal players very quik no?

maybe insurance go up lots too if happen ?

Motorways ? This like autobahn no? yes! kill all owner carvans and lolries baaaddddd !!!!!!!!11

Perhap we meet and drink lots beer, yes? I kiss you lots

love
oPless

 

[phazey]

Um, yeah. I'm not saying that criminals shouldn't be punished to some degree for the crimes they commit. As it stands, we can't just give an entire generation of people a get out of jail free card. The problem has already appeared, the damage is done for certain people, sadly. What I am saying is that long term, it aint going to solve anything. It's self perpetuating, and we need to do something to break the cycle.

This is Australia we are talking about, right ?

 

[Will]

Hmnn, JBP| actually wants to see people starving to death on the street. I'm sure people won't commit crime to feed their starving families, oh no. They'll just lay down and die like good citizens.