Das Capital

[Imgormiel]

I've been wondering about this book for some time. Wanted to read it years ago but never got round to it. Is it any good? Is it worth reading?

 

[mooSe_]

I haven't read it yet either, but I was also planning to. I have read The German Ideology and it was really interesting, so I would say it's worth a try. I found it quite difficult to understand Marx at first, but it's ok if you get your head around the key ideas first.

 

[cHodAX]

I was recommended this version recently and it has been sitting on my amazon wishlist...

Das Kapital: A Critique of Political Economy Skeptical Reader Series: Amazon.co.uk: Karl Marx: Books

It is supposed to be alot more readable than the original but covers all the main points without getting stuck on trivial events that happened 150 years ago.

 

[mooSe_]

It is supposed to be alot more readable than the original but covers all the main points without getting stuck on trivial events that happened 150 years ago.

Yeah I wouldn't be surprised if the original did talk about lots of trivial shit: large sections of The German ideology were just arguments against other German philosophers influenced by Hegel.
It's interesting if you are into that, but it isn't really relevant for the overall theme of the book.

 

[pez]

Marxism is either out dated or so twisted beyond its original form that you can't relate it to Marx/Engel tbh.

Load of bollocks tbh. Its a 'could have been' scenario from 150 years ago.

 

[mooSe_]

Marxism is either out dated or so twisted beyond its original form that you can't relate it to Marx/Engel tbh.

Load of bollocks tbh. Its a 'could have been' scenario from 150 years ago.

That's true, but Marx's criticisms of capitalism are mostly still relevant or at least interesting.

 

[fl3a]

well i read an english translation of the original and enjoyed it, along with the stuff you would call trivial. but then again i am studying philosophy at uni (because they just opened that big philosophy factory 2 towns over ofc!). and i would definitely not call it outdated, as it has more to do with explaining the workings and problems of capitalism and capitalist production, rather than spreading 'outdated marxist bullshit'. and while it was written in reference to industrialism, the mechanisms he brings forth can be applied to todays production as well.

 

[Thorwyn]

Call me a spelling Nazi but...

it´s "Das Kapital"

 

[cHodAX]

well i read an english translation of the original and enjoyed it, along with the stuff you would call trivial. but then again i am studying philosophy at uni (because they just opened that big philosophy factory 2 towns over ofc!). and i would definitely not call it outdated, as it has more to do with explaining the workings and problems of capitalism and capitalist production, rather than spreading 'outdated marxist bullshit'. and while it was written in reference to industrialism, the mechanisms he brings forth can be applied to todays production as well.

Yeah maybe trivial was not the right word to use, the original makes reference to a hell of alot of stuff that doesn't have any bearing on the modern world though and the writing style is supposed to be quite difficult too. That is why the abridged version appealed to me, I could get the ideolgy and other main themes but wouldn't have to wade through the other stuff that would have gotten in my way or even stopped me reading half way through.

Of course for anyone studying or really interested in this kind of thing should really be getting the original just so they can say they have totally absorbed the information Marx was trying to put across.

 

[Imgormiel]

call me a spelling nazi but...

It´s "das kapital"

spelling nazi!!!

 

[cHodAX]

Great program about the French Reveloution for those of you in the UK...

BBC iPlayer - Terror! Robespierre and the French Revolution

 

[Aoami]

it's good if you're a 17 year old rebel who has just heard about communism and then wish to elect yourself leader of the college communism society like my brother

 

[Lamp]

'Nazi' dog owner gets sentenced

A man who trained his dog to give a Nazi salute has been handed a suspended sentence for shouting 'Sieg Heil' in public and wearing a Hitler T-shirt.

A Berlin court found the 54-year-old German, named only as Ronald T, guilty of displaying Nazi symbols and insulting a policeman last March.

The man received a 13-month suspended sentence on Thursday.

Nazi symbols and gestures, including words and actions which can be seen to condone Nazism, are illegal in Germany.

The dog's owner was questioned by police after members of the public in the Berlin suburb of Lichtenrade complained that they had seen the two of them saluting together.

The dog, a German shepherd crossbreed named Adolf after the German dictator, is also said to have performed the trick in front of two policemen.

German authorities dropped initial charges against the man for training the dog - as it was not clear if he had broken the law by doing so.

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