Darkcarver -> RvR

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Hoodini

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Look guys, i know most of ya think rm is pretty much a waste..

Tho it dosent work as u should think whit the 50% cold debuff

Example: i tried 2 debuff my lvl 50 shaman (23 cold resist) and it got debuffed to -39 .. thats -62 cold resist.

Now your prolly gonna say; well buffs will make it do shitty dmg..

well after cold buff, +16% = 39% cold resist so it should be something like 39 - 62 = -23% right?

well dosent work that way, if u got 39cold resist and debuffs u get -31cold... so buffs dosent even work the right way.

that said, darkcarver does nearly 500 on _ANY_ target (not counting boost ra's, no i dont mean aom) and normaly over 500..

thats 500 dmg each 1½s .. + gtae and bolts to whoop casters whit.

so pls drop u laim Savage does more dmg ktnxbye. _NOONE_ in mid does more dmg, exept ofc sup sm but he needs them in range and shit as every 1 knows..

And no ur not allowed to take this as a whine thread :eek:
 
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old.Sko

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got nuked for 589 on my infi. But, with 2k hp i survived =D
 
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Denisée

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negative resist will soon enough be removed, beside a caster still remains a caster and therefor will ALLWAYS get dropped down first and quicker than any other target.

Darkcarvers, flaud of the us players if u ask me, in rvr it ain't worth it if ur not running pickupgroups...!
 
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Sharp Thing

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Originally posted by Hoodini
so pls drop u laim Savage does more dmg ktnxbye. _NOONE_ in mid does more dmg, exept ofc sup sm but he needs them in range and shit as every 1 knows..
wrong, savage stil outdmgs your 500dmg/nuke, most savages hit for 500mainhand only, add 3more unstyled hits and youre nuke is to be laughed at, same with every other acster out there, be it with debuff or not
 
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Sharp Thing

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+you dont have high hps, 50% 360° evade, reinf, tank ra's
 
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etcetra

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Re: Re: Darkcarver -> RvR

Originally posted by Sharp Thing
wrong, savage stil outdmgs your 500dmg/nuke, most savages hit for 500mainhand only, add 3more unstyled hits and youre nuke is to be laughed at, same with every other acster out there, be it with debuff or not

"exactly"
 
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old.Sko

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Dunno, actually ran a bit in nontradional setups - rc rm + dark sm is best when in comes to debuf-nuking but still, problem lies in high resists ( say baod - resist debuf expires before you can land one nuke) and low caster hp/defence - you need lag free and very concentrated healer for such group.
 
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infozwerg

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Re: Re: Darkcarver -> RvR

most savages hit for 500mainhand only

yeah, and they got rocket launchers. and lightsabers.
 
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etcetra

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Re: Re: Re: Darkcarver -> RvR

Originally posted by infozwerg
yeah, and they got rocket launchers. and lightsabers.

Not to mention a mighty dinosaur to kill someone, if they by some reason were unable to do it without their OMG 500 HITS!1
 
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Hoodini

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Re: Re: Darkcarver -> RvR

Originally posted by Sharp Thing
wrong, savage stil outdmgs your 500dmg/nuke, most savages hit for 500mainhand only, add 3more unstyled hits and youre nuke is to be laughed at, same with every other acster out there, be it with debuff or not

500 mainhand only? how about u give me the number for ur dealer cause it looks like u got some pretty good shit going on..

i got a 500savage and he dont hit 500mainhand on anyone but maybe casters ofc and lowbies but 500main hand on a tank? dream on baby boi
 
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Hoodini

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Originally posted by Denisée
negative resist will soon enough be removed, beside a caster still remains a caster and therefor will ALLWAYS get dropped down first and quicker than any other target.

Darkcarvers, flaud of the us players if u ask me, in rvr it ain't worth it if ur not running pickupgroups...!

have you ever tried playing one urself?

or tried doing keep raid whitout one? mg fights? decover stealthers @ gtae?

besides if a kooby is played correctly they wont go down first its all about staying in the back and knowing ur timing..

some can some cant.
 
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Hoodini

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Originally posted by Spix
_NOONE_ in mid does more dmg, exept ofc sup sm but he needs them in range and shit as every 1 knows..


Hunter versus lvl 50 champion using wrong arrows *snore*

http:/ /www.geocities.com/spixexcal/daoc/champion.jpg[/url] "copy and paste, geosuckers"



Add another 200 damage on casters....

No offence mate but no way u do 7xx dmg whit normal shot on a 50 tank fellah.. either he wasent 50 or had grey armor or u found teh nasty bug =p
 
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gurki

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Hard to outdmg savage when you get interupted :/
And sharp my cap is around 450 on side style followup so dunno how im supposed to do 500 mainhand all the time x_x
 
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Spix

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Originally posted by Hoodini
No offence mate but no way u do 7xx dmg whit normal shot on a 50 tank fellah.. either he wasent 50 or had grey armor or u found teh nasty bug =p

Who said It was normalshots? It is 2 critshots, still alot of damage, and not very hard to pull off.
 
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nightsorrow

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Re: Re: Re: Darkcarver -> RvR

Originally posted by infozwerg
yeah, and they got rocket launchers. and lightsabers.


and joda to train em in stlong jedi-savages^^^^^^^>....:p
 
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Sharp Thing

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Re: Re: Re: Darkcarver -> RvR

Originally posted by Hoodini
500 mainhand only? how about u give me the number for ur dealer cause it looks like u got some pretty good shit going on..

i got a 500savage and he dont hit 500mainhand on anyone but maybe casters ofc and lowbies but 500main hand on a tank? dream on baby boi
*surprise* i am a caster, i get hit for 500mainhand quite often, could be a crit but just what ive been hit for, and no you wont hit for 500mainhand on a tank, but did i say wich target? no i didnt
 
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piggeman

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Re: Re: Darkcarver -> RvR

Originally posted by Sharp Thing
wrong, savage stil outdmgs your 500dmg/nuke, most savages hit for 500mainhand only, add 3more unstyled hits and youre nuke is to be laughed at, same with every other acster out there, be it with debuff or not
wrong!

maybe 2h savage can hit about 500 dmg in one hit. h2h savage can make more dmg then that of course, but not EVERY hit. If a rm hit you for 500 (+) dmg every 1.5 sec, it mean's 1500 (+) dmg in ~4,5 second.

I know a savage CAN do more dmg then that in 4,5 second, but i allso know that a savage can do about 500 dmg in 5 seconds.

All and all, i think RM beat savages dmg over time.
And yes, rm are casters that die fast. Savages owerpwn blabla ect (as said above).
 
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hobo_biguns

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Re: Re: Re: Darkcarver -> RvR

Originally posted by piggeman
All and all, i think RM beat savages dmg over time.

eh, no.
First of all:
with 8 nukes per mana bar there isnt any "over time"

Second of all:
The debuff only lasts for 15 seconds and that time is lowered by energy resist. So you basicly have to reapply the debuff every 7th sec on a 50% energy resist target ++ mytic has stated that they intend to install a 0% resist floor witch would give 300 or so dmg on the nukes.

(this ofcoure is if the RM is left uninterupted and unattacked (aint gonna happen))


Casters need help, badly!!
 
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Garnet

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Re: Re: Darkcarver -> RvR

Originally posted by Sharp Thing
wrong, savage stil outdmgs your 500dmg/nuke, most savages hit for 500mainhand only, add 3more unstyled hits and youre nuke is to be laughed at, same with every other acster out there, be it with debuff or not

I seriously want to see this 500+ mainhand damage screeny...:rolleyes:
 
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Arnor

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Re: Re: Darkcarver -> RvR

Originally posted by Sharp Thing
wrong, savage stil outdmgs your 500dmg/nuke, most savages hit for 500mainhand only, add 3more unstyled hits and youre nuke is to be laughed at, same with every other acster out there, be it with debuff or not



haha, "most savages hit for 500 mainhand only"

anything else you'd like to pull out of your ass?
 
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-Dreama-

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I don't think the numbers really matter here tbh. People don't roll chars becuase of the amount of dmg they do in a certain amount of time. No one is gonna roll a caster cause it hits for 200 more dmg if they are tank playing type of people. And no one is gonna roll a tank if they are caster types.

Personally, I've played both caster and tank, and I'd never roll another caster as long as I live. It has nothing to do with how hard they can hit, it's about how long they stay standing.
 
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Garh Khartari

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If you don't play your savage right you won't be standing much longer than the RM.

*Wants to see the 500dmg/hit mainhand screenshot too*
 

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