Dark Ages of Lag-a-lot!!!

[Boni]

Im gonna blame someone else for a change

Today I blame Mythic!

MMORPGS, in fact all online games, have to deal with lag and packet loss as no connection is without a little bit of either, it seems to me that DAOC is a little fragile at the moment. I can remember in the past massive lags, but people werent booted from the server and their clients didnt linkdie with the regualrity they seem to now.

Could it be the code and thus mythic is partly to blame?

 

[Gold]

Could it be the code and thus mythic is partly to blame?

Not this time, but there's nothing wrong with blaming Mythic...they have done enough bad things (yes, I am xp'ing artifacts atm) to be blamed for everything.

 

[Glottis]

Not this time, but there's nothing wrong with blaming Mythic...they have done enough bad things (yes, I am xp'ing artifacts atm) to be blamed for everything.

Mythic should be blaimed cause we are end customers, and they offer their services through Opentransit.
If Opentransit is crap, Mythic should do everything they can to fix it.
And if Opentransit refuses to fix it, they should change provider.
Very simple, Mythic should get its fingers out of its ass.
Regards, Glottis

 

[Muylaetrix]

Mythic should be blaimed cause we are end customers, and they offer their services through Opentransit.
If Opentransit is crap, Mythic should do everything they can to fix it.
And if Opentransit refuses to fix it, they should change provider.
Very simple, Mythic should get its fingers out of its ass.
Regards, Glottis

Mythic created a game and goa has a licence to run servers ...

Mythic has no bussines whatsoever with French Telecom. as far as i know, they don`t even know such thing exists. it`s not their problem.

Open transit is the backbone of the french internet if i am correctly, operated and owned by french telecom... their is no other system to choose instead as far as i know from the perspective of goa/wannadoo.

i don`t know if wannadoo is related or subdivision of French telecom though...

 

[Weylander]

Hahahahahaha keep paying your money and you keep gettin shite, they don't give a damn.

 

[Glottis]

Mythic created a game and goa has a licence to run servers ...

Mythic has no bussines whatsoever with French Telecom. as far as i know, they don`t even know such thing exists. it`s not their problem.

Open transit is the backbone of the french internet if i am correctly, operated and owned by french telecom... their is no other system to choose instead as far as i know from the perspective of goa/wannadoo.

i don`t know if wannadoo is related or subdivision of French telecom though...

GoA is owned by Wannadoo, who is owned by French Telecom (who owns Opentransit).
If Opentransit provides crap service, GoA should move the servers to another provider. The internetprovider is crucial with an online game
Regards, Glottis

 

[Gold]

GoA is owned by Wannadoo, who is owned by French Telecom (who owns Opentransit).
If Opentransit provides crap service, GoA should move the servers to another provider. The internetprovider is crucial with an online game
Regards, Glottis

THEY ARE FRENCH!

Logic isn't an issue here...Sure, any logical and sane person would think that if "ISP sucks ass" then the solution would be "Change ISP", but THEY ARE FRENCH!

 

[Gear]

I demand 6 bottles of red merlot '89 as compensation for all the times I LDd!

 

[Muylaetrix]

...GoA is owned by Wannadoo, who is owned by French Telecom (who owns Opentransit).

...If Opentransit provides crap service, GoA should move the servers to another provider. The internetprovider is crucial with an online game

How big do you think are the chances that a minor subdivision of a company -goa- will tell the mother company -french telecom- they are incompentent, have lousy hardware and to fuck of /

Even if goa wanted it, i don`t think there is a way around opentransit when you access france...

unless goa would place their servers in another country, we can only hope that french telecom upgrades their system....

 

[Gear]

Be it Opentransit, Goa, Wanadoo, French Telecom, I still want my 6 bottles of Merlot!

 

[Keres]

Blame Canada

 

[Zede]

Mythic themselves are the ONLY company who can solve this - they own the game. GoA are just sub contractors ,and they can be changed.

So how can we apply pressure to mythic ?

 

[Muylaetrix]

Mythic themselves are the ONLY company who can solve this - they own the game. GoA are just sub contractors ,and they can be changed.

So how can we apply pressure to mythic ?

are you even reading these posts /

mythic can do about as much about open transit as they have influence over the weather.


NADA

 

[Siftwind]

It's been a while since we had an official communication (well, as official as a post on this forum can be). There's lots and lots of unconfirmed, conflicting information in this thread. What I'd really appreciate is an ongoing sticky thread, updateable only by a representative of GOA to confirm what the problem is and to keep us appraised of what is happening with this lag situation. I can confirm, if only for myself that it's still happening. I'll spare you the whine about how it really screws up FP for a necro.
Surely GOA are doing something to resolve this situation, rather than asking thousands of individuals (26000 is it?) to contact their appropriate ISPs, in several different countries, in the hope of initiating a response? This seems to be about as organised as an Alb Thid keeptake.
It's not worth us debating whether GOA and OpenTransit are part of the same company, although I doubt that the investment in NF would be allowed to be jeapordised by poor performance and lag spikes, if anyone working under the same umbrella company could do anything about it.

So come on GOA guys. Stop taking your captive audience for granted. Let's see a thread about what YOU are doing to lend weight to the situation. What ISPs have you contacted? What's the official response from OpenTransit? What's the problem? What's the fix and who needs to pay for it?

This isn't a whine post. Just a request for some timely information to save the frustration of the 1000's of daoc players that are experiencing this lengthy, ongoing problem.

Regards,
Sift.

 

[Muylaetrix]

This isn't a whine post. Just a request for some timely information to save the frustration of the 1000's of daoc players that are experiencing this lengthy, ongoing problem.

we`ve been told already by goa what is causing the problems, all players who have bothered to test can only confirm... nothing has changed since we`ve been told for the first time...


i don`t see the need to repost that stuff over and over...

 

[Siftwind]

we`ve been told already by goa what is causing the problems, all players who have bothered to test can only confirm... nothing has changed since we`ve been told for the first time...


i don`t see the need to repost that stuff over and over...

You're right. Nothing appears to have changed since the problem was first encountered. And I appreciate that lots of players have tested and supplied pingplotter graphs, which appear to prove where the problem lies and that noone wants to read the same old post over and over. What I was trying to do, constructively (That's a good word. You might want to look it up.), is find out what's going on and get the information officially conveyed by someone in GOA, rather than 100's of people post conjecturably and continually.

Regards,
Sift.

 

[Formash]

i played all yesterday with no lag at all, perhaps you should look to your own setup before blaming others.

Everyboy i talked to in RVR yesterday evening said they have lag spikes approximately every 20 seconds, for about 30 minutes.

(8:00pm GMT to 8:30pm approx)

It isn't the set up of nearly 50 people.

 

[old.Whoodoo]

No, they´re not. The fact that they´re doing their part of the job at it´s best doesn´t mean that the job is done. As I said, when you´re running a service, you are responsible for all your suppliers and it´s your fault when one of your suppliers isn´t working correctly. And if that´s the case, you need to change something or stop offering the service. It might not be GoA´s fault, but it´s the consequence.
Or, to stick to your example, if the pizza delivery is 10 minutes late and not as hot as it could have been in more than 50% of the cases (or if a significant number of people are complaining), then it´s not a matter of "such is life" because the result is, that the customers will order from a different delivery service next time.

Your logic is funny. Weird funny.

OK, so GOA delivers Pizza, but they are only responsible for the pizza being cooked, the rider and his transport. One day the road (opentranshit) is ripped up by a freak rhino heard, and the biker cannot get thru. So, you dont get your pizza, you go else where. You also dont end up paying for it, so neither party get the goods they want.

So, youre saying GOA aint delivering, so you are going elsewhere....bye, cya, dont let the door hit you on the way out.

You gave yourself your own answer, you dont like it so leave. Simple? In your example, the pizza co did all their part, but have to rely on a third party. You are not going to phone the pizza head office and complain about your local shop because the road was fooked was you? No. Will the pizza shop complain to the highways people because the road was churned up? No. Will they complain to Africa where the rhinos came from...no.

Liek in the UK, BT own all the cabling infracstructure as far as the eye can see. They own it, they maintain it, others rent it. Opentrasit are the same, THERE IS NO OTHER PROVIDER OF BACKBONE HARD CABLE IN FRANCE, THE ONLY ALTERNATIVE IS SATELITE WHICH COSTS A FORTUNE!!! Take the damn hint, and think about this before hitting the reply button again for gods sake!