Current conflicts

[Sharkith]

There are a number of bits off Scrap Heap Challenge that I like to follow.

The Hydra Tri scrap looks very interesting:

Scrapheap Challenge :: View topic - Vale - Hydra vs Tri

Then there are the Boob engagements as part of the fly by shooty thing.

Scrapheap Challenge :: View topic - MAX

The Bob thing seems to be backfiring though. It must be hard to keep that alliance occupied....

Nat/Shark

 

[taB]

Got a friend who's just joined pure, he's having a lot of fun at the moment. Need to talk to him about their comedy Nyx hijack loss though

Scrapheap is in general a good site to follow. The new GBBS moderation seems to be working at the moment. CCP's no alt corps in CAOD plan is completely doomed to failure

 

[Sharkith]

One thing I like about Scrapheap is that the rules are very very clear and the modding heavy. They almost stopped the section a while back because people were posting flames and discussion instead of simply reporting on the action. COAD is bloody awful - its very rare to find a decent thread on that board.

 

[LordjOX]

Nice one.

I don't think MAX works as BoB intended atm. Silly idea just to destroy stuff, the bigger alliances have so much ISK it's to cry about (damn dysprosium). Rather take the systems, break alliance back and sell the area out to the highest bidder, like they seemed to do before.
Nice to see Tri is back though.
I've not paid much attention to the game for a few months, although I have 4 accounts still training.

 

[LordjOX]

Got a friend who's just joined pure, he's having a lot of fun at the moment. Need to talk to him about their comedy Nyx hijack loss though

Haha, yeah. Here's the link for those interested: EVE Online | EVE Insider | Forums
Pretty nice fit too.

 

[Sharkith]

so TRI are after Hydra space.

It was only a matter of time until Hydra were removed from the North to be honest.

Bob have taken an IRON station though from what I can see in the MAX thread.

Nat

 

[Ctuchik]

Wish i knew what ppl were talking about

on a side note, found out that my hauler/combat pilot alt account were still active so i've been farting around Gelf.

even managed to lose my poor phoon to a blob >.<

tho not that surprising given the fact that he can just barely fly one lol...


/edit: FH channel abandoned btw? had a sneak in there yesterday but it was empty i think...

 

[Sharkith]

I stopped using the FH channel after I got buried in alliance business. Now I am trying to keep Real life happy since the summer started. I am hoping to be back and active in game properly in September.

Nat

 

[LordjOX]

So what you reckon about this: EVE Online | EVE Insider | Forums

Rumour or fact?

 

[Ctuchik]

You are trying to post to a locked thread
CONCORD has been notified

 

[taB]

Not sure what you were linking Unc, but there was a deleted thread related to this: Daisho titan.

I stole isk-farmers' money rather than buy it and built a titan with it:

Someone (lets call him Pilot X) from the large Alliance was tasked with managing the isk that influxxed from renters and also the farmers in the Alliances regions.

Pilot X skimmed money of the top of this ISK. He gave a lump of his skimmed cash to Ketch, simply as a gift. Ketch knew it came from Renters to that other Alliance.

This money was added to Daisho Alliance funds and a Titan Purchased.

It was plain corp theft on behalf of Pilot X which as we know is celebrated in Eve and not against the EULA.

Doing that and not expecting to get in trouble if CCP find out is pretty dumb.

 

[LordjOX]

I think they only give half the truth though, to try save their titan, but CCPs word is final as they have all transaction logs and logs to show who logged onto which char from where. To me it sounds like this pilot taking cash of a shared account, which is bannable.

One thing though, he didn't keep the ISK for himself but supported the alliance with it, I'll give him that. Maybe why he came in CCP spotlight in the first place? Since huge transactions of ISK is probably checked out by GM's.

Sorry, the thread I linked to referred to a thread by BOB heralding their success in the north and an apparent quote from RA internal forums showing the downfall / break-up of RA within the next week.

 

[taB]

Yeah RA now has about 800 pilots - very low!

KIA are now pretty much admitting to sharing accounts, this may have been found out while CCP were looking into the large isk sums:

Lastly, as much as account sharing is illegal, if you have ever been in any big alliance, you will find that most of the time, the admin account (that been the CEO of the alliance if you like) is shared ammoung the alliance leadership.

That making quite a few alliances i know of, to be void

Oh, and check out my eve sig

Edit: Eddz saw it so here's some damage control Fast work:

Sorry i forgot to say, i was not referring to KIA, or any alliance associated with KIA, IE, DaiSho..i was referring to previous alliances i have been in, which i am not going to name

Hehe.

 

[LordjOX]

Oops that was a little slip.
No doubt it's the case though. Most alliances have the holdings corps that own most of the outpost and process the cash to buy titans etc.

What does "Vinum Recnum. Rex Vinorum" stand for? Obviously something latin referring to Wine though.
To be sure it is correct latin you should maybe send an evemail to jna that made this excellent thread about latin abuse in EVE: EVE Online | EVE Insider | Forums

 

[taB]

What does "Vinum Recnum. Rex Vinorum" stand for? Obviously something latin referring to Wine though.
To be sure it is correct latin you should maybe send an evemail to jna that made this excellent thread about latin abuse in EVE: EVE Online | EVE Insider | Forums

Interesting that you mention that, as the text is from wikipedia. It means "the wine of kings, the king of wines" which is how "Eszencia" was described by Louis XIV. However my text book I've just checked in says Regum rather than Regnum. Will look into it

That's an excellent thread by that jna guy :lol:

 

[Maasu]

Oops that was a little slip.
No doubt it's the case though. Most alliances have the holdings corps that own most of the outpost and process the cash to buy titans etc.

What does "Vinum Recnum. Rex Vinorum" stand for? Obviously something latin referring to Wine though.
To be sure it is correct latin you should maybe send an evemail to jna that made this excellent thread about latin abuse in EVE: EVE Online | EVE Insider | Forums

All the alliances i've been involved in have such an account, i think the non-account sharing rule is ridiculous in a game like eve, but i can totally understand why CCP want it in there, as it simply makes policing the game somewhat easier.

With regards to the actual issue, well, he's hardly going to come out and admit that he bought isk and then purchased a titan with it. If however it was corp theft as they claim and this has happend i do think it's rather unfortunate on his part.

 

[taB]

The odd part of this situation is isk buying has never been a banning offence. If he only "bought" isk he should have been given a -40bil (or whatever) wallet. I suspect that CCP found something else fishy but of course only the account holder and CCP actually know at this stage.

 

[taB]

Unfortunately this gets more amusing, jeez:

Ketch is the one proceeding with the legal action and they are progressing.. I am not directly involved. All I am doing at this point is managing a petition with CCP on behalf of the alliance to come to some form of resolution for the membership as it was an alliance asset.

Up until recently the discussions were proving civil and progress was being made then for some reason there was a sudden change in tone and disposition on behalf of CCP and things have stalled.

Ketch made the post unannounced on COAD do to some events yesterday that made him completely fed up .. my intention was to keep this confidential through the negotiations. However now that it is out .. i am trying to do my best to combat the misinformation that spread overnight .

Can I adopt full SHC mode and insert a massive facepalm here.

 

[Ctuchik]

All the alliances i've been involved in have such an account, i think the non-account sharing rule is ridiculous in a game like eve,

yep, KoS council had account sharing, and they got busted for it, litteraly every council member got banned. thats part of why that alliance crumbled. the other alliances found out about it and attacked when we didnt have anyone left leading.

 

[Maasu]

yep, KoS council had account sharing, and they got busted for it, litteraly every council member got banned. thats part of why that alliance crumbled. the other alliances found out about it and attacked when we didnt have anyone left leading.

Chow always told me that the reason he attacked KoS was due to a guy called demigod or something, i wasn't invovled, but if your lads all got banned for account sharing that sucks hard, especially given its frequency within the game.

 

[Maasu]

The odd part of this situation is isk buying has never been a banning offence. If he only "bought" isk he should have been given a -40bil (or whatever) wallet. I suspect that CCP found something else fishy but of course only the account holder and CCP actually know at this stage.

I think you can get banned for repeated offenses, but yeah you probably right, end of the day there is no smoke without fire.

 

[Ctuchik]

Chow always told me that the reason he attacked KoS was due to a guy called demigod or something, i wasn't invovled, but if your lads all got banned for account sharing that sucks hard, especially given its frequency within the game.

demigod was/is the KoS head diplomat. but iirc he got banned with the rest of the council..

 

[Ctuchik]

The odd part of this situation is isk buying has never been a banning offence.

well they ARE allowing time cards to be sold for ISK so it makes proving it pretty damn impossible.

/edit: maybe not if were talking billions of ISK in the transactions but anything below 500 million is. CCP just can't prove its not a timecard sale...

 

[taB]

well they ARE allowing time cards to be sold for ISK so it makes proving it pretty damn impossible.

/edit: maybe not if were talking billions of ISK in the transactions but anything below 500 million is. CCP just can't prove its not a timecard sale...

Yes they can because all time codes should be traded through the CCP website and they clearly state that it's your own fault if you don't do it that way. It's completely monitored.

Edit:

What if I trade a code through e-mail, or other sources, and don't get my ISK?
The Secure Time Code Exchange is the only supported method of trading EVE Time Codes for ISK. Any other methods of trading Time Codes are not allowed. The EVE Customer Support will not support such trade and action may be taken against accounts who trade in timecodes outside our system.

 

[Ctuchik]

Yes they can because all time codes should be traded through the CCP website and they clearly state that it's your own fault if you don't do it that way. It's completely monitored.

Edit:

ooh ok, well i guess it makes sense.

 

[taB]

Well, after all the crap that was posted CCP have waded in with an official statement!

Hi everyone.

There has been a lot of speculation on this thread, some of it close to the truth, some of it not so.

I feel it is best at this point to clarify what happened, and why it happened, since the players involved have brought their version of events to the forum for public scrutiny.

The titan pilot had an alt on another account. That alt received 45 billion ISK - DIRECTLY - from many assorted ISK selling accounts. I am referring to those cut up streams of ISK donations, each totaling a few hundred million, with explanations that make very little sense. "Thx for your protection"..."Boy your ship"(sic)...etc.

All of this ISK was later transferred to the titan pilot directly by his alt and shortly thereafter the alt was deleted. The 45 billion ISK was used to fund the larger part of the titan that we later decided to remove from the game.

We discovered all of this during a routine investigation into an ISK selling operation that had been hacking accounts with key loggers and stealing ISK from players. We were not willing to overlook the fact that someone had just bought a Titan with ISK that came directly from account hacking ISK sellers. Blame us if you want.

Whether the ISK was "skimmed" off the top of some rent deal has yet to be proven and nothing we have seen so far points to that. We actually only heard that explanation after our lengthy talks with the titan pilot came to an end. He had every opportunity to explain the deal to us if indeed it is real, but chose not to for some reason. The explanations we got instead were insubstantial and not consistent with our logs.

Contrary to what has been stated on this thread, we did actually make some efforts to compensate other alliance members for their contributions to this project and as of now those efforts are still ongoing.

I can safely speak for every EVE GM when I say that none of us enjoys a mess like this one. We know that removing a titan, even one funded in this manner, causes distress for innocent alliance members, but the presence of ISK sellers causes such an amount of problems for our players that we have to take a firm stance.

The best way to avoid problems of this nature is to refrain from engaging in any sort of business with ISK sellers.

Best Regards,
Lead GM Guard
EVE Online Customer Support

 

[LordjOX]

So there we go.

 

[LordjOX]

Dead IRON Titan last night.
Story, Killboard link.

 

[Ctuchik]

killboard entry seems to have been deleted

 

[LordjOX]

Yeah...

Another Titan kill a few hours ago. This one belonged to TCF. No story yet
Killboard link.