Cry your hearts out BD whiners...

[brite]

oh and to the other poeple who went down past me farming..... we where taking bets on how long til the knight ate you

especialy sarcasm

 

[Nonnier]

the reason u see more high realm rank BDs than VW and necros is that necros and VW suck in rvr when comparied to BDs

and yes i am a ex thane who enjoys killing people, so sue me

 

[Groborthir]

Well, when you albs stop buying SoS, BoF and FH, and the hibs stop buying GP and BAoD, then maybe I'll stop playing my BD. Until that day comes, I'll happily continue farming up to five of you at a time without any regrets.



And for your information:

1) I do have more than lifedrain and debuff on my quickbar.
2) Without FotM's, this game would consist of thanes, armsmen and blademasters only.

 

[old.Bubble]

Brite I think in my 18 months in this game you are the only caster that I have seen solo the umbrood warriors at midside DF. I'd love to hear about another casting class soloing those mobs. Still, you had a little more trouble when you got a cheeky saracen pop >>>

I used to play a 50 sorcerer who farmed them for seals...

about bonedancers-

it doesn't take much skill to spam debuff and lifetap, almost the same as spamming debuff and baseline nuke
a most class's can't take a bonedancer 1 v 1 and should realise this, most class's can't take a high rr paladin solo either but no one whines about that

how ever- most rvr is in Full groups on this server and most others, a bonedancer must be skilled to take a runies/sm spot and know how to play his class--> this does take effort...

Moral of the story - If you attack a great RvR solo class and lose with your weak one then don't moan.


ps to dipshit who was 6 ppl die to a bonedancer and healer- Nothing special here...a wizard/theught and sorcerer could pull off the sam (or bard chanter) againt a group without purge/IP/speed/crowd control/healer

 

[old.Bubble]

1) I do have more than lifedrain and debuff on my quickbar.
2) Without FotM's, this game would consist of thanes, armsmen and blademasters only.
>>>>


1- i have MCL2,purge and RP as well
2- i beg to differ, blademasters are fotm

 

[old.Bubble]

I'll happily continue farming up to five of you at a time without any regrets.

>>>>>

stop ganking greys in DF

 

[Damon_D]

Mill is one tough mofu..Was grouped with him once with my freshly dinged lvl 50 skald .. and we more or less got jumped by 5 stealthers ( more or less because I dont think even one of em managed to get a pa off )....they died..we did not..they got us later though at amg..all 5-6 or 7 of em...BD is a tough class to kill but sometimes peopel just make it to easy for em...its not only the class ..but the skill of the one playing the char too

 

[ImLestat]

Originally posted by old.Bubble
I'd love to hear about another casting class soloing those mobs.

Summoning SM would have NO problem with them. As a 47 dark 26 supp SM I can almost solo them too. Hand me and my spirit a few shaman buffs and I'll almost be chaining them..

 

[Nonnier]

Originally posted by Aarweenie
not really... as a BD you would have same lifedrain as Spiritmaster... that's true... but as a BD you got healing pets that could heal you or your commander (I think, or if it's just the BD they heal)

and the SM gets AE mess instead...

that will make the healer pets crap, seeing as the commander is about as effective at keeping aggro then a lvl 1 luri magician.

the healer pets will get aggro, or u will... without the insta lifetap the boney will die just as fast as any other caster, which kinda wrecks the whole point of the class, ie a tank-caster.

and not to mention the stress that will be involved.

the insta life tap makes the class origanal to play, make it castable then i might as roll a dark SM, as they have a better pet and mezzes/debuffs.

while the supp boney turns the BD into a caster-tank, if i wanted to nuke i might as well go dark spec

 

[Nonnier]

enchanters can solo umbroods, seen it done

 

[Aarweenie]

Originally posted by Reinnon/Nonnier
that will make the healer pets crap, seeing as the commander is about as effective at keeping aggro then a lvl 1 luri magician.

then you spec BoneArmy or Darnkess instead...

without the insta lifetap the boney will die just as fast as any other caster, which kinda wrecks the whole point of the class, ie a tank-caster.

well... then it will die as fast as any other caster... and that is exactly the idea of it

and tank-caster... that is a very bad idea... since it's like building a Robocop... halv human (intelligence) half robot (invincible)...

and not to mention the stress that will be involved.

stress that would be involved? that you might get killed in a few hits from a tank or infil like all the other casters do? the stress in beeing affraid of pressing the wrong button since you might have to handle more then the lifetap when you play...

the insta life tap makes the class origanal to play, make it castable then i might as roll a dark SM, as they have a better pet and mezzes/debuffs.

original? yes... it's making it very original... the first caster that is beeing able to solo things they shouldn't be albe to solo... like a tank withinn melee range of the caster...

 

[venerable]

Originally posted by old.Bubble
ps to dipshit who was 6 ppl die to a bonedancer and healer- Nothing special here...

Dipshit cause I was in a group that got caned by Mill? Fuck off you twat most people die to Mill ffs.

 

[Teren]

http://www.camelotherald.com/chardisplay.php?s=Lancelot&c=18553600

With that WC he should be able to make nuclear missiles!

/aim Emain
/arm Nuclear Missile
/fire
/count RPs

 

[Brunore]

Originally posted by Reinnon/Nonnier
enchanters can solo umbroods, seen it done

I have also seen Smildorf solo umbroods no problem

 

[Fightersuntzu]

Originally posted by Groborthir
Well, when you albs stop buying SoS, BoF and FH, and the hibs stop buying GP and BAoD, then maybe I'll stop playing my BD. Until that day comes, I'll happily continue farming up to five of you at a time without any regrets.



And for your information:

1) I do have more than lifedrain and debuff on my quickbar.
2) Without FotM's, this game would consist of thanes, armsmen and blademasters only.

Nerf !

for 1) Of course you do, have to summon the pets, have to af, absorb, bt, and darkness nuke But once you have all the menial stuff out of the way, its pretty simple afterwards

and for 2).....i could only wish, because then id always win

 

[Jonaldo]

Can someone e-mail me when Mentalists become fotm then I might resubscribe

 

[Nonnier]

Originally posted by Aarweenie

stress that would be involved? that you might get killed in a few hits from a tank or infil like all the other casters do? the stress in beeing affraid of pressing the wrong button since you might have to handle more then the lifetap when you play...

no, the stress of the healer pets running through walls, grabbing aggro, then that aggro pasting ya backside to kingdom come

so ur solution to the BD "problem" is to completly nerf the supp line, and not even touch the already crap (BA is ok for pve i admit) spec lines? yeah...great idea.

if they did this, i might as well summon 2 buffer pets, seeing as they can get more aggro then the commander.

while atm u get the fearsome insta (that does about 190 - 50 on most albs) that u can combine with the DD (300 dmg) to do the dmg of a dark runey in 1 nuke.

Stop thinking of BDs as casters, because tbh they are not casters, they are tanks in cloth armour that need a pair of healer pets and a life drain to stay alive.

all these people who are screaming for a nerf fail to see this 1 point, the supp line is nice, but the complete lack of a high dmg spell in the line and the crap ability of the commander, unless hes supporting you or dealing with a blue add means that the only way a BD can solo is to get his hands dirty, and to prevent the gits that are healer pets from walking into the next room and walking into the highest aggro mob they can see, but no...lets make the supp life drain castable...yes that will fix it...it will now make the BD unable to solo yellows becuase of the fear that i'll get aggro from the healer pets that will run into aggro mobs.

if u really want to fix BD insta, decrease the dmg by 15% and reduce the range to 600 and stick it on the same timer as the debuff, so i can't combine DD, insta and debuff, and still enjoy the class.

(btw i have commander, healer pet, DD, DoT, insta, debuff, attack, defend, passive and QC on my 1st quickbar and commander, buffer, self sheild, BT, self AB buff, pet str, pet health buffer, AB buff and mcl on QB 2)

 

[Aoln]

why couldnt they just give the commander taunt instead of giving the BD a overpowered 4second instant lifetap? :/

 

[Laston]

Originally posted by Reinnon/Nonnier
no, the stress of the healer pets running through walls, grabbing aggro, then that aggro pasting ya backside to kingdom come

so ur solution to the BD "problem" is to completly nerf the supp line, and not even touch the already crap (BA is ok for pve i admit) spec lines? yeah...great idea.

if they did this, i might as well summon 2 buffer pets, seeing as they can get more aggro then the commander.

while atm u get the fearsome insta (that does about 190 - 50 on most albs) that u can combine with the DD (300 dmg) to do the dmg of a dark runey in 1 nuke.

Stop thinking of BDs as casters, because tbh they are not casters, they are tanks in cloth armour that need a pair of healer pets and a life drain to stay alive.

all these people who are screaming for a nerf fail to see this 1 point, the supp line is nice, but the complete lack of a high dmg spell in the line and the crap ability of the commander, unless hes supporting you or dealing with a blue add means that the only way a BD can solo is to get his hands dirty, and to prevent the gits that are healer pets from walking into the next room and walking into the highest aggro mob they can see, but no...lets make the supp life drain castable...yes that will fix it...it will now make the BD unable to solo yellows becuase of the fear that i'll get aggro from the healer pets that will run into aggro mobs.

if u really want to fix BD insta, decrease the dmg by 15% and reduce the range to 600 and stick it on the same timer as the debuff, so i can't combine DD, insta and debuff, and still enjoy the class.

(btw i have commander, healer pet, DD, DoT, insta, debuff, attack, defend, passive and QC on my 1st quickbar and commander, buffer, self sheild, BT, self AB buff, pet str, pet health buffer, AB buff and mcl on QB 2)

Bananplockaren hit me for 402 average but i only got 24 body resist tho

 

[Balbor]

...we could wait till Mythic nerf them but i have a better idea, all Hibs and Albs start sending complaints to Right Now with screenshots of BD abusing a bug were there Spec line Life tap spell is instently cast. GOA, who clearly don't play the game, will class the spell as a bug, and people using as bug abusers/cheaters.

 

[brite]

play a bonedancer.... maybe past the bg levels..... then come on and whine like a pro

like i have said before if it required no skill we would all be like Mill but it does your just whienine the same shit over and over. you dont read what we say u just read the first line quote it and go you got no skill ect ect i dont know why i even bother replying beacuse you are seriously menntaly retarded


and maybe he hit you for 403 beacuse he has Atleast MoM 3 and WP 3 and is RR6/7 and maybe he debuffed you ? but ofcourse you dont think about getting lucky with a crit shot u just dont think....

 

[Nonnier]

Originally posted by Laston
Bananplockaren hit me for 402 average but i only got 24 body resist tho

my example was without RAs and the average alb/hib who has 40 odd body resist

 

[Nonnier]

and brite, mill stopped playing....so u can't really use him as a example anymore

 

[old.Bubble]

Originally posted by venerable
Dipshit cause I was in a group that got caned by Mill? Fuck off you twat most people die to Mill ffs.

baited like a pro......
as i said you had a group without speed/crowdcontrol/a form of stun against a group with mez/stun/speed/badass 1 v 1 person

get my point yet

 

[ImLestat]

Originally posted by Balbor
...we could wait till Mythic nerf them

Lol, obviously you didn't read the first post, a nerf will not happen.

 

[venerable]

Originally posted by old.Bubble
baited like a pro......
as i said you had a group without speed/crowdcontrol/a form of stun against a group with mez/stun/speed/badass 1 v 1 person

get my point yet

No need to get abusive because the group I was got jumped and ganked.

You didn't get my point: groups of tanks get owned regularly by single BDs. I don't think that's right.

As for the baiting remark I guess that's to be expected. Typical of your arrogance.

 

[dakeyras]

Originally posted by venerable
groups of tanks get owned regularly by single BDs. I don't think that's right.

Sorry, but the tanks must be crap if a whole group gets killed by 1 BD.

If I see a lone BD ( and I am usually MA) then it is straight for the commander. With another merc/pole assisting they drop very, very quickly. If your slam tank has stunned the BD he/she is stuffed.

1v1 nasty but comeon. Only a crap group will die to a lone BD

 

[venerable]

Originally posted by dakeyras
Sorry, but the tanks must be crap if a whole group gets killed by 1 BD.

If I see a lone BD ( and I am usually MA) then it is straight for the commander. With another merc/pole assisting they drop very, very quickly. If your slam tank has stunned the BD he/she is stuffed.

1v1 nasty but comeon. Only a crap group will die to a lone BD

I never said whole group. Two people could be described as a group.

There are enough horror stories of groups of ppl getting owned by BDs. Of course a group of 8 can handle one, but if 3 tanks come across one it can get ugly. BD roots 1 or 2 tanks and he is laughing, slam or not.

You should try Bananwhatever with a small group sometime. She likes to wander in Odins solo and she has herself and all her pets buffed to the teeth. Fucking nasty I tell you. I'm sure there was a screeny of her wasting about 15 hibbies when she was in a mid grp too.

 

[old.Bubble]

Originally posted by venerable
No need to get abusive because the group I was got jumped and ganked.

You didn't get my point: groups of tanks get owned regularly by single BDs. I don't think that's right.

As for the baiting remark I guess that's to be expected. Typical of your arrogance.

okay i'll try to explain...again
bonedancers are good because they can tank 300 damage every 4 or so seconds

3 paladins can't kill a bonedancer due to not being able to do damage fast enough, this is the way the class was designed, learn to live with it like you learned to use your staff instead of trying to heal as a friar.
--------------------------------

on another note-

you mentions that there was 6 of you all level 50? you were fighting against 2 level 50 middies both RR6+, IE they would purge any slams.
I don't want to sound as you put it 'Arrogant' but were the other 5 ppl you know new to this game or new to there characters in Epic? IE were they too low RR to have IP/purge and all the normal RA's, this would have made a massive difference.
From this sceario you would lose to other pairs of RR6 mids/hibs
Healer/zerker/SM/runie.

 

[old.Bubble]

Originally posted by venerable
I'm sure there was a screeny of her wasting about 15 hibbies when she was in a mid grp too.

Just like Pbuck,latino,teador used to spam while in groups?

i'm sure i have a screenie of johnson soloing 30 middies.....