Advice CPU question - am I CPU bound?

[old.user4556]

Current specs:

Core i7 4770k quad core @ 3.5 GHz
GeForce GTX 1070
16 GB RAM
Windows 10
Native res 2560x1440 (playing games at 1440p)

I play Battlefield 1 mostly and I've noticed that sometimes when there's a lot going on I'm seeing some quite poor FPS. Generally speaking, it's only when there's a LOT going on because otherwise it's smooth. I've noticed i've got DX12 selected, and I'm thinking I should be using DX11 because, anecdotally, frame rates look poorer at some settings with DX12. Upgrading to a 1080 (a cool £500) would only yield a reasonable increase at 1440p which my 1070 should be able to handle (I play at Ultra settings with anti-aliasing OFF) .

The question is - is my system CPU bound? I'm too out of the loop on this sort of stuff, but a general google is that my CPU should be plenty and the gaming FPS is really dependent on the card (mostly). Advice?

 

[Moriath]

Your cpu is 4 gens out or so. But i dont think you are cpu bound. Bf1 with ultra settings pushes my 1080 gtx on an ultra wide screen, i think its a very intensive game especially at 1440 with a lot of players particles on screen at the same time.

 

[old.user4556]

I'm thinking that ~£500 would be better spent on a CPU / Mobo upgrade just now, been reading about the Core i7 8700K and with all other things being equal it does indeed make a reasonable improvement over, say, a Core i5-7600K (118 fps average v 134 fps average).



But then again, I've just read that the 20xx nVidia cards are about to be revealed today, so I must just wait another 6 months.

 

[old.user4556]

View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QDjn0Fw6-Rg


Good comparison video at 1440p, looks like a 1080ti is a good 50-75% faster than the 1070. I'll wait for these next gen cards.

 

[Moriath]

I'm thinking that ~£500 would be better spent on a CPU / Mobo upgrade just now, been reading about the Core i7 8700K and with all other things being equal it does indeed make a reasonable improvement over, say, a Core i5-7600K (118 fps average v 134 fps average).

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But then again, I've just read that the 20xx nVidia cards are about to be revealed today, so I must just wait another 6 months.

What about the i5 8600. Just hyperthreading thats the difference iirc. I got the i5 and seems fine with its hex cores.

Not sure what would use more than six cores gaming wise at the moment.

But if you got the cash moght as well splash it on the i7

 

[Hawkwind]

Wait for the 1100 Series (before end of year according to rumours) and the 1070 - 1080 will drop around $100-$250 each. Even rumours the 1100 series will be on the market in Sept.

 

[old.user4556]

Wait for the 1100 Series (before end of year according to rumours) and the 1070 - 1080 will drop around $100-$250 each. Even rumours the 1100 series will be on the market in Sept.

Isn't it the 20xx series that's about to be announced?? I know they were talking the 11xx a few months back.

"While we've been calling the new high-end card the GTX 1180, new rumors suggest that it could actually be called the RTX 2080"

Nvidia RTX 2080 (or GTX 1180): What You Need to Know

 

[Hawkwind]

Isn't it the 20xx series that's about to be announced?? I know they were talking the 11xx a few months back.

"While we've been calling the new high-end card the GTX 1180, new rumors suggest that it could actually be called the RTX 2080"

Nvidia RTX 2080 (or GTX 1180): What You Need to Know

Not sure they formally announced but have seen both written in the tech blogs. One below siting a Nvidia partner email says 1180 and first releases (usually founders editions and testing) at end of this month. That is usually when the prices start dropping to clear old stock.

Nvidia partner email points to 30th Aug GTX 1180 release

 

[caLLous]

They formally announced the 2070, 2080 and 2080 Ti yesterday.

 

[Hawkwind]

They formally announced the 2070, 2080 and 2080 Ti yesterday.

Just watched the twitch vid Just waiting for the prices of the 1080Ti to slide a bit and I will buy 2, easily enough to keep me going for a few years. or wait for the real 2070 benchmarks.

 

[old.user4556]

I’m going to wait for real benchmarks to come out, I’m not sure I’m that bothered about RTX for now. Eye candy may be great and tech demos look good, but will it make that much of a diff when I’m playing 32v32 Monte Grappa in BF1? Probably not, so the key point for me is how they compare in non-RTX benchies.

 

[old.user4556]

£715.99 for a ‘cheaper’ 2080
£1049.99 for a ‘cheaper’ 2080 Ti

lel

 

[Moriath]

£715.99 for a ‘cheaper’ 2080
£1049.99 for a ‘cheaper’ 2080 Ti

lel

Another case of profiteering. Some how 699 dollars equals 715 quid.

They are alsosaying that nvidia have seen the market take price hikes with the miners and decided they can put unit prices up direct now

 

[caLLous]

£715.99 for a ‘cheaper’ 2080
£1049.99 for a ‘cheaper’ 2080 Ti

lel

It's because Nvidia are a wankstain of a company and AMD just aren't competing at the moment (or in the near future, at all). The consumer loses out by waiting for developments and/or paying more for them when they arrive.

 

[Gwadien]

It's because Nvidia are a wankstain of a company and AMD just aren't competing at the moment (or in the near future, at all). The consumer loses out by waiting for developments and/or paying more for them when they arrive.

Yup.

So long as support on some games consist of 'If you're not using a Nvidia, fuck off' then Nvidia can do what the fuck they like, and they will do for ever.

 

[smurkin]

I’m going to wait for real benchmarks to come out, I’m not sure I’m that bothered about RTX for now. Eye candy may be great and tech demos look good, but will it make that much of a diff when I’m playing 32v32 Monte Grappa in BF1? Probably not, so the key point for me is how they compare in non-RTX benchies.

Anandtech found the 2080 to be a bit choppy in places with battlefield V and ray tracing - I'd be pretty disappointed if I shelled out that much and suffered fps drops at 1080. Granted, the software is still in development.

Hands-on with the GeForce RTX 2080 Ti: Real-time Raytracing in Games

 

[old.user4556]

Nvidia's benchmarks claim the RTX 2080 will be 50% faster than GTX 1080 | PC Gamer

Yeah, I'll wait for more reliable benchies thanks.

 

[Embattle]

It probably will be....but as usual it is very selective as to what area they tested.

As my GTX 780 finally failed after some 5 years I've just replaced my whole PC since my i7 3820 was even older than the graphics card.

Personally I went for a i7-8700k and supporting hardware, I also picked a 1070 simple because it is more than enough for the resolutions I play at.

I used to upgrade every year but once I got the 3820 I decided to stop spending so much on frame rates I can't see any way.

 

[Moriath]

It probably will be....but as usual it is very selective as to what area they tested.

As my GTX 780 finally failed after some 5 years I've just replaced my whole PC since my i7 3820 was even older than the graphics card.

Personally I went for a i7-8700k and supporting hardware, I also picked a 1070 simple because it is more than enough for the resolutions I play at.

I used to upgrade every year but once I got the 3820 I decided to stop spending so much on frame rates I can't see any way.

Yeah i just did the same except i went with a i5 8600k and a 1080 gfx card.