Court threat to UK song swappers

[Munkey]

what about other international countries, like Qatar?

Anyone know what else is happening?

 

[throdgrain]

yes as i stated once, they have a right to it, but there rich enough it shouldnt worry them a great deal that there losing a very slight amount of money compaired to what they have made/will make from just doing concerts etc

Heh so you have knowledge of what should and shouldnt bother musical artists and and recording companies do you?
/hypothetical
You earn £200 a week, but every week someone nicks £5 or so, and you dont know who has got it. But probably its someone less well off than you.
Would you complain ? Or would you just shrug your shoulders and say hey its only a fiver, probably someone worse off than me has got it .

 

[k9awya]

its rather relative

if i couldnt download music i wouldnt buy much either, i would just listen to the radio a lot more, so me downloading costs them nothing.

besides, they may end up making money from it if the people downloading like the stuff enough to go see them in concert etc.

 

[throdgrain]

Look, the point is this.
I couldnt give a shit whether you download music or not.
But dont try to rationalise it by saying "they can afford it", cos thats not the point.
if it were my money mate Id want it, and want it all ...

 

[Cyfr]

Heh so you have knowledge of what should and shouldnt bother musical artists and and recording companies do you?
/hypothetical
You earn £200 a week, but every week someone nicks £5 or so, and you dont know who has got it. But probably its someone less well off than you.
Would you complain ? Or would you just shrug your shoulders and say hey its only a fiver, probably someone worse off than me has got it .

Thats different because a 'normal' wage is needed for living, where as their wages pay for £200,000 cars and such. If I could afford to spend that kind of money then I wouldn't care about not getting x amount more

 

[gunner440]

i guess it's not so much the music but the change in habits and traditions that ppl arent getting used to

that is this online "download" stuff is relatively new compared to other things and my guess is that the authorities don't really know how to deal with it

hence put it in jail ;D

 

[gunner440]

Thats different because a 'normal' wage is needed for living, where as their wages pay for £200,000 cars and such. If I could afford to spend that kind of money then I wouldn't care about not getting x amount more

what about.... say u earn 500k a week

and due to downloading music you could have gotten maybe ~1m a week


i doubtyou'd say oh it's ok i earn 500k a week....

 

[Driwen]

what about.... say u earn 500k a week

and due to downloading music you could have gotten maybe ~1m a week


i doubtyou'd say oh it's ok i earn 500k a week....

but more realistic would be to say that you might earn 5k more if there was no pirating.

Also partly why downloading is done is because its easier (atleast imo). No need to go to the shop and you can put together a cd of your own liking. There are other reasons, but these two is something the music industry can compete against.

 

[Cyfr]

what about.... say u earn 500k a week

and due to downloading music you could have gotten maybe ~1m a week


i doubtyou'd say oh it's ok i earn 500k a week....

I wouldn't care.

What could I possibly do with all that money? Im happy if I can have an internet connection

 

[gunner440]

it's easier to say than to do remember

you get a car today with 500k

1m a week and you'll be wanting a plane

then god knows what else

when you actually have the option it's quite hard to resist

 

[Munkey]

starbucks are doing this thing in america where whilst buying a coffee you compile a cd of songs at a terminal next to the till and then you can burn it off and take it home. Cost of songs+cd is added to your coffee bill, rather a novel idea i must admit

 

[k9awya]

money is everything in life, just my opinion.

 

[gunner440]

starbucks are doing this thing in america where whilst buying a coffee you compile a cd of songs at a terminal next to the till and then you can burn it off and take it home. Cost of songs+cd is added to your coffee bill, rather a novel idea i must admit

starbucks kick ass

they've always been happy to accept new methods and such

e.g. the addition of internet access and such at some of their branches

 

[Healer McHeal]

yeh i agree its there money and its ok for them to want it, its theres after all, but i mean, they make that much cash they have that much they will never spend it all in there life time (they will all die by a OD or smth eventually), so i dont see there problem losing a little bit of cash from that, and if i lost a fiver every week from my wage, i wouldnt be that pissed off, i can live on £195 a week, i dont do fk all

 

[Tom]

Can I just point out:

They're (they are)

Their's (belongs to them)

There (its over 'there')

 

[Tom]

and if i lost a fiver every week from my wage, i wouldnt be that pissed off, i can live on £195 a week,

BOLLOCKS.

 

[Healer McHeal]

BOLLOCKS.

im 18, i dont do much all day, i dont even have a job right now, if i can live like that, im SURE i can live on £195 a week.

 

[Simon]

to be honest i waste more that £5 a week on USELESS items

 

[Healer McHeal]

gamblers do aswell, a friend of mine will put about £50 into a machine before the night is out. and back on topic, i dont really care too much about all this now, ive said my opinion, and people have just said what they wanted about it, thats fine, thats the point in a disscussion, but when some one says something that says im lying, i get a little annoyed, u dont know me, so u wouldnt know if i would of wouldnt get annoyed at losing £5 a week.

 

[gunner440]

im 18, i dont do much all day, i dont even have a job right now, if i can live like that, im SURE i can live on £195 a week.

195 weekly but

u take that into account if you have to pay for your own rent and all that no? or is it 195 a week while still living at home?

 

[tRoG]

Stop with all this "they can afford it" shit. You're stealing. It's thievery!

 

[Munkey]

So is the overpricing of CD's

Except one is a more legal form of stealing than the other with little to do about it except complain to trading standards and hope for a change of heart from a marketing exec

 

[Clown]

No it's not. You're not forced to buy the CD.

 

[Munkey]

so then what do we do if we cant have the CD? download.

And singles arent good value for money either.

 

[Cyfr]

Stop with all this "they can afford it" shit. You're stealing. It's thievery!

I'm not stealing anything
I'm downloading a COPY of the music

Not that it matters, it's still against the law, just breach of copyright not theft, aint it?

 

[Healer McHeal]

they can only really do you for it if you reproduce it+sell etc, and i dont do that

 

[Trem]

I steal tbh. I'm a little bit waheyyyyyy a little bit woooooh.

 

[Healer McHeal]

195 weekly but

u take that into account if you have to pay for your own rent and all that no? or is it 195 a week while still living at home?

living at home, so no rent

 

[gunner440]

living at home, so no rent

well then even 50 a week is fine then eh

it's different when there's no mummy and daddy to fall back on


back on topic:

has there been some official statement? i mean are police gonna come breaking down doors anytime soon?

 

[Tom]

Yeah and as soon as you get a job, you start paying rent.

Nobody can buy a house on 200 quid a week, let alone rent a place. If you could, you'd be living in a bedsit, or Salford.