CounterStrike's awful crosshair

[old.Rezonator]

Is there any way you can change the crosshair in CS to something simple, like a dot .

I can't stand these default crosshairs with the big gap in between the horizonatal and vertical lines, I cannot hit shit with it.

 

[old.Nuwcleer]

No, sorry, you cant change the cross hairs. But i must ask you, why are you picky about your crosshairs? I know people sometimes cant play games when the gun looks like crap, but ide be interested in knowing why you cant play with the crosshairs.... Maybe if you draw a red dot over the screen with a marker you would be more at home.

....yea... ,
Nuwcleer

 

[old.Rezonator]

My understanding of a crosshair is that you aim at the point where the horizontal and vertical line meets, such as a:

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Or you have something small and simple like a dot ' . '

The crosshair in CS is too obtrusive, its gets bigger when you shoot making pinpoint precision a complete bitch.

I will try find a hack around this but if thats fails then perhaps I will resort to drawing a bit dot with a felt tip on my monitor

 

[old.-=MN=-Terra]

Oh please, 1 minute into the game and i've forgotten the crosshair is there.

Just get used to it.

 

[Perplex]

Originally posted by Rezonator
The crosshair in CS is too obtrusive, its gets bigger when you shoot making pinpoint precision a complete bitch.

The reason the crosshair expands in CS is to give you a bearing on accuracy. When the crosshair expands (when you are firing in logn bursts) it expands to let you know that the accurracy is worse.

You can change the crosshair in CS, but, only the "zoomed" aug/sig crosshair and the sniper gun crosshairs.

Try this for some different crosshairs. Haven't tried these ones myself, I made my own ones.
ftp://ftp.counterstrikemod.org/pub/csm/art/files/CSCurIco.zip

 

[old.Nuwcleer]

Lmao, ok, thats just hilarious.

But i know what you mean. When you play other fps games [first person shooters] the weapons strike exactly where you shoot. In games of this high quality [counter-strike, rainbow six, and for console gamers-perfect dark] the weapons accuracy changes. Now say that the crosshair was just a dot and you thought that if you shot there, you would hit it, then you would be in trouble. The crosshairs of the games of my mention, the cross hair does an excellent job of showing you the area [or rough area] of where bullets strike. Now, i know that alot of people look to just see what general direction they are aiming, and so a dot and crosshair [which is actually the name of those 'dots' too, even though they arnt cross shaped] may be alot better, and i dont see why not. But, if you find it THAT anoying as that you would go through the trouble of hacking a way around it, then you should find somthing else. Have you emailed the 'valve' people to tell them your pissed at the crosshair? They may thank you for helping them by suppling them with feedback [though probably not] and may even give you another cross hair or a way to change it, because i know that there are plenty of programs that allow you to make crosshairs if not for a gae just for the shits and giggles. Try what im saying, i just look, act, and sound stupid [although i hope you cant see me right now > =) ]

Gimme a chance, please,
Nuwcleer

 

[old.Rezonator]

The accuracy of the weapons in CS is a sad joke. I've tested how pathtic the crosshair is on numerous occasions. I set up a lan and tested out shooting a still opponent. I unloaded half a clip of an Ak47 with my head on my opponents crosshair from barely a couple metres away and made absolutely no contact whatsoever. On other occasions I one shot killed someone with an Ak47 from across the screen when my crosshair wasn't even close to my opponents head.

To me this game is a case of spray and pray and hope you get lucky.

 

[old.Morpheus]

That's how it was designed, y'see

 

[Perplex]

Originally posted by Rezonator
The accuracy of the weapons in CS is a sad joke. <snip> I unloaded half a clip of an Ak47 with my head on my opponents crosshair from barely a couple metres away and made absolutely no contact whatsoever.

Ok. now i'm starting to become annoyed at your utter ignorance. You unloaded half a clip with an AK, and wondered WHY you missed? RETARD. DOn't you realise CS is about realism, and that in Real Life (a place you don't seem to spend much time in) GUNS RECOIL WHEN FIRED. Now, why does the AK recoil so much in particular.

Well, the gun is very light. It's a peice of wood, with a barrel. This was for production cost reasons. The end result is that the forst 2, maybe 3 shots are pretty accurate, then it becomes nigh on IMPOSSIBLE to control.

It is blatently obvious that you have a very slim grasp on reality, as you seem to belive that you can fire a scud missile out of your pocket at someone 2 miles away and expect it to hit their head, first time.

Get a grip fuckwit.

The accuracy was DESIGNED this way by the game makers. It's meant to be realistic. Guns that hit their target first time, everytime, after firing 4237498236593286592383295872359087325098732 bullets, is NOT realistic. You need to piss off and play Quake3 or something, with space-age lasers n stuff.

The CS scene really won't miss you

[Edited by Perplex on 04-01-01 at 03:37]

 

[old.Morpheus]

Erm, Perplex?

He might have acted the twat with his comments, but there's no need to tar yourself with the same brush...

Perhaps he's never fired an AK47 in real life, but then neither have most people. All we had to do is give him a lickle information on how CS is supposed to be, and let him make his own mind up about it...

 

[Guest]

Get a grip fuckwit.

The CS scene really won't miss you

Ah Perplex, a good example of a CS player if ever there was one. Methinks you should perhaps get out a little more.

The aiming in CS IS a joke, particularly at close range. I've almost pressed my AWM against an opponents back, fired, and STILL missed. Same with the auto shotgun.

There's realism, and there's bollocks. Guess which category CS's weapon behaviour falls under? For an arcade game it's fab, but for goodness sake don't start thinking it's realistic!

 

[stu]

Originally posted by SoWat
The aiming in CS IS a joke, particularly at close range. I've almost pressed my AWM against an opponents back, fired, and STILL missed. Same with the auto shotgun.

I'm gonna come WAY out of left field here.

It's a bit of a crazy theory, but go with it, here it is:

you people who can't hit anything are just crap.

No, that would make far too much sense wouldn't it.

 

[Guest]

LOL, if you read that quote again, you'll see that I've had weapons pressed against opponents and still missed. Crap is a good word though...it sums up perfectly the CS aiming method.

 

[stu]

Funny, I've never had problems hitting people with either the AWM (5 CTs with SMGs/rifles, 5 hipshots in a row, 5 dead CTs) or the Auto Shotty (to the point where a certain Mr Perplex usually starts ranting frothy mouthed about me being a "BFG no skillz lamer" ). I guess I must be 'lucky', eh?

If you think the game is so crap, don't play it.

 

[Guest]

You're right..it was all a dream. My experience differs from yours, so I must be wrong.

Oh, and thanks for the advice, but I'll play what I want.

 

[Perplex]

Originally posted by Stu-
I'm gonna come WAY out of left field here.

It's a bit of a crazy theory, but go with it, here it is:

you people who can't hit anything are just crap.

No, that would make far too much sense wouldn't it.

I really couldn't have said it better myself mate

 

[stu]

Originally posted by SoWat
You're right..it was all a dream. My experience differs from yours, so I must be wrong.

Oh, and thanks for the advice, but I'll play what I want.

I didn't say wrong, I said crap. If you can't hit someone from pointblank range with the auto-shotty, you are crap. End of. It's not the physics engine. It's not your PC. It's not your connection. It's not space demons from the planet Thnaaarg. You're just not very good at the game. Live with it, accept the fact.

And of course you can play what you want, I wouldn't suggest for a moment that you shouldn't. It's just with you posting about how crap the game is, I don't understand why you'd want to. You don't like sandpapering your testes as well by any chance do you?

 

[Guest]

<sigh>
The game is not crap. If you bothered to read earlier messages, you'll see I think it's pretty fab.

As for being crap myself... Well, I'm not a complete dummy, and when I fire at point blank range, and miss, it's because there's something crap about the firing/aiming routine. Even a complete moron knows that when a muzzle is pressed up against someone, it's pretty difficult to miss. Now, seeing as your argument is basically, 'it's alright for me, so you must be a moron who likes sandpapering whatever'. I'll leave you to pat yourself on the back for another ever-so-helpful post. Another notch on the smugometer huh?

 

[old.Nuwcleer]

You really arnt making friends on this forum i see....

And the gun isnt the 'ak-47, its the cv-47.

The deal with the cv-47 is that it fires a 7.65mm bullet and the weight of the gun is under 10 pounds. Guns like the carbine weigh miore and fire smaller bullets. try using the Commando (terrorist version) to get a good feel opf accuracy. The zoom on the commando (T) is not a scope (like sniper rifles) but just a larger picture with a yellow sight. The crosshair when zoomed like this not only changes color but doesnt expand.

To say more about the accuracy issue, ide like to bring up pistols. Try using the Blackhawk pistol somtime, as a main weapon. I can round a corner and put a round into an enemies face (without aiming almost atall) and killing them instantly. Yes, it does take practice, but you can do it. And dont hate the cv-47 becuse of its long range accuracy issues, the close range power of the gun is unmatched. 2 shots can drop ANY enemy with and certainly without body armor and kevlar.

Give it up, please,
Nuwcleer

 

[stu]

Originally posted by SoWat
As for being crap myself... Well, I'm not a complete dummy... (blah)

You're still not getting it are you.

One of two things is happening:

1) you (and the other whiners) have some "special" version of counterstrike, whereby despite the fact that you are clearly GODS OF AIMING, you can't hit things at 2 paces, and any hits made by anyone are purely down to luck. This is obviously down to your special client engine, as the rest of us can hit things just fine.

2) you are crap.

Now, which of these is more likely?

I'll give you a hint - it's the one of them that isn't the first one.

 

[old.Clanless]

Or its none of the above, its more a lag/ping/new netcode issue than a poor aiming system/he can't aim for crap issue. Aiming in CS is fine, there are some weapons that are inherently inaccurate, such as the AK after 3 rounds (before that though, deadly accurate - AK sniping is a blast), or either of the automatic sniping rifles, the HK or the new Sig, very poor for head shots. Just repeat after me: Full auto is the first cardinal sin of Counter-Strike, I shalt not hold down the mouse button...

There, don't you feel better? I know I do...

[HCA]Clanless

 

[Ch3tan]

Well stu and persplex are right, u r all just shit at aiming. Before i offend anyone though, let me just say fuck the realism it dont matter. Cs is designed so u cannot get easy kills by just holding down fire, the ak -47 would be deadly if u could. I use the ak a lot and have mastered its use - u have to use it in bursts so that the recoil doesnt screw your aim too much. i cant hit shit with the steyr aug, but some can. The awm is a gun that needs to be used with the zoom on, its just luck if u hit someone with it point blank with no zoom. thats not beacuse cs is screwed up, or the aiming system shit, tis designed like that to make the game balanced and stop one weapon becoming to good.
Consider this matter closed, and if u really cant stand the aiming in cs go play soemthing else, or learn how to get past it.

 

[old.Morpheus]

Nuwcleer said:

And the gun isnt the 'ak-47, its the cv-47.

The deal with the cv-47 is that it fires a 7.65mm bullet and the weight of the gun is under 10 pounds. Guns like the carbine weigh miore and fire smaller bullets. try using the Commando (terrorist version) to get a good feel opf accuracy. The zoom on the commando (T) is not a scope (like sniper rifles) but just a larger picture with a yellow sight. The crosshair when zoomed like this not only changes color but doesnt expand.

To say more about the accuracy issue, ide like to bring up pistols. Try using the Blackhawk pistol somtime, as a main weapon. I can round a corner and put a round into an enemies face (without aiming almost atall) and killing them instantly. Yes, it does take practice, but you can do it. And dont hate the cv-47 becuse of its long range accuracy issues, the close range power of the gun is unmatched. 2 shots can drop ANY enemy with and certainly without body armor and kevlar.

LITTLETON! LITTLETON! RUN! HIDE!

You know too much, thee aliens will take you away...

 

[stu]

Originally posted by Nuwcleer
And the gun isnt the 'ak-47, its the cv-47...

Try using the Blackhawk pistol somtime...

omg

you BOUGHT CS?

(for anyone that doesn't know, the names of guns are copyrighted, so when they released CS retail they had to change them to fictional names)

 

[Perplex]

lol...that explains why I was sitting here thinking "what the fuck is a blackhawk pistol"...it's Desert Eagle

 

[*Kornholio*]

hmmm... but if they had to change the names because of copyright, how do all the other games get away with it ? Doesn't Delta Force use the proper names too ?

 

[stu]

They probably paid the license

You can get a file from counter-strike.net that reverts the names back to the proper ones if you've got the retail version.

But tbh if you bought the retail version you deserve executing anyway

 

[Embattle]

I admit, I would like to change the crosshair on sniper rifles, just as you could in AQ2.

 

[Perplex]

Originally posted by Embattle
I admit, I would like to change the crosshair on sniper rifles, just as you could in AQ2.

Errrrm, mate, you can change the sniper crosshairs (zoomed).

I can't actually find any sites atm that have any, but I know it can be done.

 

[Ch3tan]

You bought CS? you must be american then. oh dear.
Anyway the gun names in cs are correct it is the ak 47 not the cq-47 or whatever crap u came out with.
Anyway i'm about to be hypocritical, dont reply to stupid threads and keep them going endlessy, go and actually play cs and figure out how to aim.