COOP Server...

[Svartmetall]

Outdated crap. EQ has a race of cat-people... nothing more need be said. Anyway, take whatever I say however you want to, if you feel I'm condescending maybe your subconcious is trying to tell you something

I think it's trying to tell me you're being condescending.

 

[Balbor]

PS > DAOC for RvR tbh

um PS a FPS

 

[Balbor]

The PvP areas are everywhere but if you think most guild are going to trawl through all the zones Low level PvP is mainly Aegir, Gothwaithe, Cotswold, Prydwen Keep, Mag Mell and Ardee and surrounding areas. Sometimes you get ganked in the lowbie dungeons as well, but most of the time you can get peace if you want with the people already exping there.

High lvl PvP is mainly on the TNN-MM-RD-DL circle, the Cam E-Cots-PK-PKB-DF-Sauvage circle, DF and the ToA Havens. So you might die once or twice getting to where you want to go, but the immunity timer is long enough to horse/prt/run to wherever you want to go, and it's not profitable to chase down no reward people to their xp spot, aside from the fact that chaining is illegal to most of the more established PK guilds.

Back at the start of the server people still used to trawl xp spots to kill people, but it's more rewarding to do fg vs fg fights nowadays. I mean who in their right mind is going to run for 5-10mins to clear 3 yellow cons and their twinks at 4fins? It's only when people want to use the same camp as you're doing that you might get into fights.

and thats why PvP sucks, allow all levels to have there PVP flag on or off when they want and it might be ok. You just have to look at the fact the PvP TL is complaining that the ML are too hard for PvP server to know what kinda jerks play them, and dropping siege weapons to stop people using the portals? whats that all about, its against the COC on RvR servers. Infact if you wanna piss people off on a RvR server without breaking the CoC you're pritty limited, but on a PvP server you can follow someone aroung constenly killing them making it impossible for they to level.

 

[Ctuchik]

um PS a FPS

yes its a FPS game, but it still have a better "rvr" system then DAoC currently have.. hopefully that will change with new frontier

 

[Jonlan]

Thumbs up for the co-op server. Casual player don't have many quality MMORPGs to choose from, DAOC is best imho... except that end game, RvR, has not much to offer for them.

 

[Derric]

I think a coop server with PvP in the frontiers would be cool. o0

 

[Brannor McThife]

I think a coop server with PvP in the frontiers would be cool. o0

And that would work how? Based on your party/guild/alliance?
Nah, that's too much like a PvP server.

Also, can you imagine the possibilities for events though? Hell, GOA could have various competition events in which the prize would be to play the roll of one of the NPCs that take over a keep. Once a month, all the people that won their various competitions would have one day to to get to know each other as their new NPCs, then the next evening, they take over a keep and defend it. Of course, they would respawn (every 2-5 minutes) in the keep so long as the Keep Lord is alive.

Then you could have a PvP type scenario.

Anyway...my minds wandering again...

-G

 

[Z^^]

nah svartmetal dont leave i need you to be my farm cow with the rest of the casual noob gamers

 

[Nott]

Why oh why does people who don't want a coop server bother to flame it? It really must matter to you that we get one? You guys really make a fool of yourselves imo.

Gaheris is fine. It has its flaws(like DF being the xpplace for 90%) and its elitekids but theire a minority. Population is fine to. Remember 1000 people there is virtually the same as 3000 on a rvr server cause theire all "realmmates" you can potentially group with. I have played there on and off for awhile and the community is very friendly. I remember the first fiew sidi/tg raids I was on and I was amazed both at the leadership and the lack of whines. Lottos with 80+ ppl and not one whine? It was unreal.

Would a euro-coop work as good as Gaheris. I don't know but I'd love to try. The language barrier we have in europe may or may not cause a problem. It remains to be seen but I would beleive that coop minded people would be equally friendly no matter what nationality.

I would try it for sure. Bring it on!

 

[Derric]

And that would work how? Based on your party/guild/alliance?

Meant kinda like just a normal server but when creating a char you could make any class from any realm, could be funky groups ;o

 

[Bellona]

on a PvP server you can follow someone aroung constenly killing them making it impossible for they to level.

Maybe if your dumb enough to port to the same place everytime, you got 3 realms to exp in, and there are lots of places to exp where other ppl seldom come.

 

[Lian]

and thats why PvP sucks, allow all levels to have there PVP flag on or off when they want and it might be ok. You just have to look at the fact the PvP TL is complaining that the ML are too hard for PvP server to know what kinda jerks play them, and dropping siege weapons to stop people using the portals? whats that all about, its against the COC on RvR servers. Infact if you wanna piss people off on a RvR server without breaking the CoC you're pritty limited, but on a PvP server you can follow someone aroung constenly killing them making it impossible for they to level.

Switching flag on and off defeats the object of the server. Sort of "oh we're porting into Goth now, let's switch on our flags and run out a bit and buff up, then turn it off and run back in". Or having a buff bot trailing behind you that can't be attacked because he has his flag on.

MLs are too hard past a certain point (4.2 mainly), and a lot are bugged on the PvP server, f.ex. heal fields heal all, not just guild/group. Like I said before though this makes it less likely to run into hardcore gamers who have MLs out the wazoo, and makes it more suitable for casual players who can't put in the time for 8 hour raids.

And yes you can be followed, by why? Griefers don't last long on the server (most grief guilds get ganked off the server within 2 weeks) as most guild rules dont apply wrt to griefers.

 

[Ctuchik]

Meant kinda like just a normal server but when creating a char you could make any class from any realm,

like a troll paladin??? id love that......

 

[Tualatin]

I would prefer a home-invasion server above co-op finally able to do some real fun war sieges

 

[Ctuchik]

Switching flag on and off defeats the object of the server. Sort of "oh we're porting into Goth now, let's switch on our flags and run out a bit and buff up, then turn it off and run back in". Or having a buff bot trailing behind you that can't be attacked because he has his flag on.

could have it like that those that have their safetyflag on cant heal or in anyway help those that have them off.. would effectivly nerf them "blue healers"

and once uve taken the flag off, theres no way to turn it on again...

the solutions are there.. Mythic or perhaps GOA in this case, just need to make it happend...

 

[Ctuchik]

I would prefer a home-invasion server above co-op finally able to do some real fun war sieges

the only realm this would "work" on is midgard due to them having "minikeeps" scattered all over the realm alb and hib just have them lousy towers with no walls around

 

[Svartmetall]

I would prefer a home-invasion server above co-op finally able to do some real fun war sieges

Nice idea, but it would suck. Remember these servers can't even handle a RR, or ML4.2, let alone a full-scale invasion force.

 

[Khale]

And once they get inside it's basic bindstone camping again like on Camlann.

 

[Balbor]

yes its a FPS game, but it still have a better "rvr" system then DAoC currently have.. hopefully that will change with new frontier

having only seen my brother play it i'd say it has better acessability, NF seems to have taken the new keeps right out of PS making them the main focus for RvR which is a good thing.

 

[Balbor]

I would prefer a home-invasion server above co-op finally able to do some real fun war sieges

yes and how would you convince people to role a new character on a home invation server when they can get ganked anywhere.

Might work if you could import L50 characters from other servers.

I'd like a kinda renagade server, where you pic a side to fight for (like on RvR) but you can be any Race or Class.

 

[Ctuchik]

having only seen my brother play it i'd say it has better acessability, NF seems to have taken the new keeps right out of PS making them the main focus for RvR which is a good thing.

yea. one of the few things i like about PS is the huge wars going on around the bases.. with 300-400 ppl it tend to get extreamly fun

 

[Ctuchik]

yes and how would you convince people to role a new character on a home invation server when they can get ganked anywhere.

well.. to invade another realm ud have to have VERY many ppl. our RR forces probably wouldent make it inside.. GOA said that IF just IF they opened a home invation server it would be extreamly hard to get inside.. the RK keep guards will be like hitting u with pillows compared to the guards at the borderkeeps

example: u gather 300 ppl at svasud. everyone charge at the same time but most likly 30 or 50 ppl will acually make it thru.. the borderguards will still be the same lvl as they are now. just that they remove the "godmode" from them... so ul have some SERIOUS deathspams from those guards even with 300 ppl attacking...

 

[Herbal]

well.. to invade another realm ud have to have VERY many ppl. our RR forces probably wouldent make it inside.. GOA said that IF just IF they opened a home invation server it would be extreamly hard to get inside.. the RK keep guards will be like hitting u with pillows compared to the guards at the borderkeeps

example: u gather 300 ppl at svasud. everyone charge at the same time but most likly 30 or 50 ppl will acually make it thru.. the borderguards will still be the same lvl as they are now. just that they remove the "godmode" from them... so ul have some SERIOUS deathspams from those guards even with 300 ppl attacking...

Made it through svasud with 60 :>

 

[Cavex ElSaviour]

a bit of touchy subject, but IF goa decides to open a coop server, how big are the chances that it will be an english server? The french and german player base are larger then the english, and it will be too much of a drain on the english servers if they open a new english server.

 

[Dracus]

yes and how would you convince people to role a new character on a home invation server when they can get ganked anywhere.

Might work if you could import L50 characters from other servers.

I'd like a kinda renagade server, where you pic a side to fight for (like on RvR) but you can be any Race or Class.

troll pala ftw!!! troll in plate looks uber fyi or mebbe luri pala :eek2:

/Dracus

 

[Khale]

a bit of touchy subject, but IF goa decides to open a coop server, how big are the chances that it will be an english server? The french and german player base are larger then the english, and it will be too much of a drain on the english servers if they open a new english server.

<cough> PvP Camlann? Was english too cause if you wanna open a server for all English is by far the best language to pick as it's more common to talk in english when you are online.

 

[Svartmetall]

<cough> PvP Camlann? Was english too cause if you wanna open a server for all English is by far the best language to pick as it's more common to talk in english when you are online.

What he said, sort of. While there are large German and French player contingents, without a trace of jingoism I think English is still the best language for a multi-realm server. Look at the number of Swedes, Spanish, Greek etc who play DAOC in Europe...it might be conceivable to ask German players to use French, or vice versa (although, I suspect, popular with neither playerbase), but are you going to expect Greek players to try and use German? Or Norwegians to speak French?

For better or worse, English is the most common common language in Europe.

 

[Cavex ElSaviour]

without the want to flame the english language (my german and french suck major ass) the number of non english speaking french and german players farly exceeds the number of "Swedes, Spanish, Greek etc who play DAOC in Europe"

 

[Balbor]

well.. to invade another realm ud have to have VERY many ppl. our RR forces probably wouldent make it inside.. GOA said that IF just IF they opened a home invation server it would be extreamly hard to get inside.. the RK keep guards will be like hitting u with pillows compared to the guards at the borderkeeps

example: u gather 300 ppl at svasud. everyone charge at the same time but most likly 30 or 50 ppl will acually make it thru.. the borderguards will still be the same lvl as they are now. just that they remove the "godmode" from them... so ul have some SERIOUS deathspams from those guards even with 300 ppl attacking...

the first people they are likely to come accross are low level people, probably under 30, who are likely to be bound close to the locations people kill them. the size of force needed to do it would me that once through thats if for the other side, no more playing that realms old zones until they are ported back. What would be the point for doing it anyway?

300+ people doing what Snister did is gonna turn a lot of new player off the game.

 

[Atheistic Archon]

Outdated crap. EQ has a race of cat-people... nothing more need be said. Anyway, take whatever I say however you want to, if you feel I'm condescending maybe your subconcious is trying to tell you something

Ever played it?