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Zarklech

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Asty said:
I would consider it very stupid if someone rvr'd just to get rps, what do you need those rps for then? nothing.

I RvR just only for the rps and more points so i can spend on my RealmSkills. Heck. RvR is for me very boring. Extremly Boring even



On another note, I agree with SvartMetall. Givf Co-op Server :) Would be very fun imho!
 

Eredan

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Some good points made so far.

I would absolutely love a Co-op server because i'm one of the people who love PvE. To be able to roll ANY character and explore each realm, defeat different mobs and interact with a huge number of players would be an awesome bonus to DAoC Europe (sadly GOA don't think so).

I RvR'ed before i took a break from the game (before Spellcrafting) and i did enjoy it for awhile but it gets very tedious. Port, run around, kill someone, get killed, port again :( . A lot of others would say the same about PvE.

Everyone enjoys different things. If they opened a Co-op server here in Europe it would be great and i'd move immediatley. I think why some people are against it is because a large number would move to it leaving large gaps in the other servers populations so less people to kill in RvR :)

GOA, if you actually read these forums, WE WANT A CO-OP SERVER NOW! :D
 

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I didn't fineread all 3 pages.. but just gonna ask a question (I didn't see)..

ok.. here goes....


Isn't the point of playing any game.. to have fun?



..now with that asked.. does EVERYBODY on the planet think the SAME thing (game) is fun? does EVERYBODY who play like say .. DAoC .. play it the same way because there is only one way to have fun in this game? .. or do different people like different parts of the game more than other parts (like PvE, RvR, crafting :p )?
 

Chimaira

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I like crafting.

Mostly do I like fletching. making arrows makes my day :m00:
 

enkor

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if you still like pve, you haven't played enough daoc :eek:
 

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Asty said:
I find that "rp grind" attitude complitely absurd. If you think its a grind why do it?? It doesn't exactly make much difference whether you are rr10 or rr1 if you don't rvr. I would consider it very stupid if someone rvr'd just to get rps, what do you need those rps for then? nothing.
soooo bloody wrong ... you NEED RR5 to get the FULL af and dps from your stuff (yes, you need af and damage in PvE, thrust me on that) ... you NEED some RA's for high-level PvE (Determination, MoB, etc etc etc) ... I'm only in the frontiers sometimes because I want to get the max. out of my nice items and RvR is a bloody huge timesink ... port, group, run, die, repeat ... oh yeah, teh fun ... so NOT ...
now givf coop server!
 

Deepfat

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I'd like a co-op server.

Purely and simply as this is my 1st mmrpg and I came from an FPS to this game (UT in fact) I find PvE actually alot of fun (see sig for 5 level 50s and 3 or 4 lvl 40+ chars I didn't list) since I get to meet and chat with new people all the time. If you find PvE boring fair enough - I agree it can be very repetative killing in the same spot over and over - but then I guess as a player your goal is level 50 then on to emain for RR5+ etc. you won't derive alot of pleasure from PvE since it's the only means to get to 50. For me I find my interest in a character wains alot once they hit 50 but that's just me.

As far as RvR goes yes it can be fun but as a PvP experience compared to an FPS it sucks TBFH. The whole being grouped with 7 others thing means that in any fight you only contribute 13% to any fight. Very few RvR fights have ever left me either with a sense of having played skillfully or the pure adrenaline rush of an FPS.

If I want to go kill people and enjoy it I go play UT. There are no opted guild groups, no buffed people, no high RRs and I get straight into the action and start killing. Deathspam in Emain *is* nice but it doesn't compare to scoring a "Godlike" in UT (those of you who play UT will know what I mean here.)

Each to there own I guess this isn't meant to be critical of folks who do want *normal* RvR by any means. There is no right or wrong way to play the game at the end of the day we all pay our subs and we're entitled to play as we wish. However alot of us who pay subs would like to be catered for with a co-op server please :)
 

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enkor said:
if you still like pve, you haven't played enough daoc :eek:

been playing since beta here and i still find pve alot more fun then rvr.

id welcome a co-op server anyday...
 

Esoteric

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To the point - I'd like a co-op server...

Would be blinding, just salvage Camlann and turn it into a Co-Op xE... Apparently its the unofficial 3rd English server and we want a Co-Op not pvp. Well I do at least :twak:
 

Margaret

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Hear, hear.

A co-op server would give the PvE-loving part of the community more incentive to stay, and probably be a good environment for, y'know, roleplaying.

Which -I- would find nice, at least. It -is- a MMORPG, after all. Or supposed to be.
 

Escape

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Co-op doesn't have an "end game", it's fun for the first couple of weeks but once the novelty wears off most people will be back on the regular servers. It sounds good because you'd expect immature players to stay away, and having the freedom to roll any class/spec without rvr-considerations...

But there will be PvE elitism, power-levelling and the usual online-hostility, making this just another daoc-experience. And what happens at lv50? Nothing if you don't have a PvE compatible class, with required spec. So what's the point of trapping yourself on a server which is still populated by assholes, when you can stay on your current one and experience the same. Afterall, Online gaming is about the people you play with


I'd only roll on a co-op server to experince cybor between a celtic-bard and a briton-minstrel. two girls, two flutes... so many possibilities oO
 

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Escape said:
And what happens at lv50? Nothing if you don't have a PvE compatible class, with required spec.

care to tell me what a pve compatible class would be?? thane? paladin? friar? necro? bard? imo, any class can be a pve class. and any spec would do to... thats the beauty(sp?) about pve.. theres no need to be uber twinked and uber leet specced.. u can still pve...
 

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i also want a coop server! would be really fun imo... setting up cross-realm grps without worrying about getting playerkilled every 3 mins... and ppl dont being so hostile as on camlann.. the only problem would be for palas.. they would be so unwanted in grps because of bb's and shamans running around :)
 

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Sigurd said:
Gaheris (US co-op server) is a joke tbh... almost always has the lowest population of all the servers (as I type this the population is 260)

Look at the time you posted, and remember that west coast USA is only at 7am at that time.
 

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It's still more or less the lowest population server... all people want a Co-op server for is the novelty value, most people would leave after a few weeks, happened in the US, what makes you think it won't happen here?
 

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Sigurd said:
It's still more or less the lowest population server... all people want a Co-op server for is the novelty value, most people would leave after a few weeks, happened in the US, what makes you think it won't happen here?


maybe it WILL happend here to. but i dont give a fuck.. those that DO WANT a coop server will probably play on it to.. i hate rvr as it is now and id kill for a coop server just to get away from the elitist rvr servers... IMO the pve servers would be a place to go just to get away from it all.. and i know il never go back... i dont care if theres no "end game" if rvr is what u call endgame then fine.. its just a diffrent form of "grinding" as u say about pve... so dont bitch on those of us that want a coop server and go play ur preachious "rvr" :twak: :twak:
 

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Sigurd said:
Anyway, I have to point out I said no-one plays DAoC just for PvE, not that no-one enjoys PvE - but I'm sure even the most hardcore PvEr will RvR too and even enjoy it from time to time.

I did. The only reason I ever went out to RvR was because I had to be RR5 in order to be most efficient in PvE. If there was some PvE way of getting the same RR then I would have done that without a second thought. Sure there were a few occasions where I enjoyed RvR but they were not enough to make me consider it in any way the "point" of me playing DAoC. Anyway as people are repeatedly pointing out there is a "RR grind" in the same way as there is an "exp grind" or a "ML grind" or whatever else you want to complain about. It all depends on your point of view and what you consider necessary to having a decent character.

You could go out and RvR at level 40 but most people wouldn't consider that so instead they grind away in PvE groups and complain about going through the "exp grind" all the way up to level 50.

You could go and tackle PvE challenges with no RR at all but then you miss out on the 16.5 dps weapons and all of the life saving RAs so instead people go out to RvR and complain about the "RR grind" all the way up to RR 5.

:touch:
 

Mr.Brand

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Funkybunny said:
the only problem would be for palas.. they would be so unwanted in grps because of bb's and shamans running around :)

I can't see a buffbot guarding my caster characters..
 

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Funkybunny said:
i also want a coop server! would be really fun imo... setting up cross-realm grps without worrying about getting playerkilled every 3 mins... and ppl dont being so hostile as on camlann.. the only problem would be for palas.. they would be so unwanted in grps because of bb's and shamans running around :)

Palas arent only in grps cause of End chant.

Heal chant and best aggro holder in game. with insane af and can take serious beating.

Sure warrior is good to. but pala is fookin funnier. chants rox :p
 

Brannor McThife

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A EU Co-op server might give me pause to return. Have 0 interest in RvR anymore.

However...I still have my US version of DAoC sitting in my cupboard which I've never used...so I could go try it there for free sometime...

But then, I'm sitting at 10 months without MMORPGs and looking good.
Only a few more months and I'll be wheened enough to play WoW like a normal human being... :kissit:

-G
 

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As a player that went to Gaheris I can say that it is a lot of fun.
Those claiming the novelty will wear off and the server will die - Gaheris has a good steady playerbase.
It's not the most populated server in the US, but it's never the least populated either.
Usually no 4 or 5 where 1 is the lowest populated.
And PvP server is mostly below Gaheris.
Elitism and PL? Hehehehehe.. Funny person...
True, sometimes you see people in DF or AC broadcasting elitist attitude, only to be laughed off the server ;)
It's a very nice place to be, when you've grown tired of the whining on normal servers.

Funnily enough though, Albion dungeons and Alb side DF is the most populated...
Which means that those off us who're Mids can wander off freely to the best xp spots in Midgard with ease :)

Combining the best classes from the realms into one team is great fun for people like me, who enjoy PvE.
But from many of the negative comments I see here, and have seen elsewhere - there are a lot of people who clearly can't fathom the fact other people enjoying a game in other ways than themselves...
 

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as for pve grind vs rr grind

you have to pve to have a chance in rvr (ie get 50, get artis, etc)
you don't have to rvr to have a chance in pve, unless everyone is very elitist

and yep, palla is pve king

used to pve, then joined decent grp and realised how boring pve really is
 

Revz

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Elendar said:
you have to pve to have a chance in rvr (ie get 50, get artis, etc)

Er no you don't...

unless everyone is very elitist

The same applies to both equally. If you don't RvR you can function in PvE but you won't be very good at it. If you don't level up to 50 and get artifacts you can function in RvR but you won't be very good at it.
 

Hufner

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Revz said:
If you don't level up to 50 and get artifacts you can function in RvR but you won't be very good at it.


Hehehehe... Do you really believe you can function in RvR at level 1? :p
 

Revz

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Hufner said:
Hehehehe... Do you really believe you can function in RvR at level 1? :p

It depends how you define function and remember we both said up to level 50. You could stop at pretty much any point on the way if you wanted to. I'm not saying you'd be any good though. Just like a level 50 Paladin in his epic with no RR would not have much of a chance as main tank on a dragon raid.
 
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