Contractor for year = Permanant Job?

[Nate]

So I've heard this myth a few times in various jobs whether or not it is a myth I'm trying to find out, I was just wondering what exactly a contractor can do to force the company to offer permanant employment. Does anyone know about this type of thing? I'm going to have to do some research, don't really have much of an idea as to where to start. But I'll give it a go anyway.

I'm not with a union, nor is there one to join so it's all solo work to do this. I've been on this job for more then a year and had no breaks in the employment status, I'm working with an agency who hire staff for a company from which the agency get paid then the agency pays wages to me, the employee.

If anyone can help it would be very much appreciated!

Cheers,

Nate

 

[gohan]

So I've heard this myth a few times in various jobs whether or not it is a myth I'm trying to find out, I was just wondering what exactly a contractor can do to force the company to offer permanant employment. Does anyone know about this type of thing? I'm going to have to do some research, don't really have much of an idea as to where to start. But I'll give it a go anyway.

I'm not with a union, nor is there one to join so it's all solo work to do this. I've been on this job for more then a year and had no breaks in the employment status, I'm working with an agency who hire staff for a company from which the agency get paid then the agency pays wages to me, the employee.

If anyone can help it would be very much appreciated!

Cheers,

Nate

just talk to your boss, its cheaper for them to hire you directly (unless your shit cause they gotta train ya and you should get more, E.G if they pay the agency £12 an hour an you get £8 its better for you and them if they jsut pay you £10 directly

 

[Marc]

So I've heard this myth a few times in various jobs whether or not it is a myth I'm trying to find out, I was just wondering what exactly a contractor can do to force the company to offer permanant employment. Does anyone know about this type of thing? I'm going to have to do some research, don't really have much of an idea as to where to start. But I'll give it a go anyway.

I'm not with a union, nor is there one to join so it's all solo work to do this. I've been on this job for more then a year and had no breaks in the employment status, I'm working with an agency who hire staff for a company from which the agency get paid then the agency pays wages to me, the employee.

If anyone can help it would be very much appreciated!

Cheers,

Nate

You cant really do anything. Its up to the employer wether he wants you permanently or not.

 

[Adrianicus]

As Marc said its up to the employer.

Do what Gohan said and ask the employer out right.

There may be a clause though with agency and employer - if you leave the agency and work for the employer, the employer may have to pay a fee which can be quite large (forget what it was for our old agency staff).

That may put the employer off.

 

[Rubric]

As Marc said its up to the employer.

Do what Gohan said and ask the employer out right.

There may be a clause though with agency and employer - if you leave the agency and work for the employer, the employer may have to pay a fee which can be quite large (forget what it was for our old agency staff).

That may put the employer off.

I think it's like a months wages or something.

 

[Mojo]

I think it's like a months wages or something.

That sounds about right, they call it "Finders Fee" I believe.

and to reiterate what's been said, contracting for any period does not entitle you to full time employment.

 

[Rubric]

That sounds about right, they call it "Finders Fee" I believe.

and to reiterate what's been said, contracting for any period does not entitle you to full time employment.

Although if your a self employed contractor i think it does give you some additional rights. But if your through an agency i don't think there is any benefit.

 

[Borand]

I was in the same position as you last year Nate, joined a company in July (but was getting paid by an agency not the employer) and then got offered a permanent position at the start of the tax year in April when they were doing a review of the department's structure.

I'm sure you get monthly or bi-monthly one to one meetings with your boss / manager. During these always make sure you mention you're looking for a permanent position if they ask what your ambitions / objectives are for the future, but don't pester them about it. Also try and do overtime as often as possible even if it's at standard rate, and don't take any days off or turn up late if you can help it. Sorry if any of that sounds patronising, I'm sure you're already doing all of that

At the end of the day just keep working your ass off and your boss / line manager, will eventually take notice and realise you're worth employing. I wouldn't get too downhearted if you haven't been offered anything after twelve months, I know a lot of my colleagues were temps at the same company for over 18 months before they were offered a permanent position. People come and go from companies all the time, you're probably slowly going up their list of people to employ every time someone leaves

 

[Yeke]

Think the 12 months thing your thinking of is a casual contract I've heard similar that they cannot keep extending the casual contract past one year if they wish to retain your services they must either employ you permanantly or there must be a 6 month break between them offering you a new casual contract.

If your with an agency the above dosnt apply as your employed by the agency as some have said they may employ you but generally have to pay a fee to the agency or be a bit underhand (ask you to leave the agency then employ you).

not 100% everything is correct as I've never been in this situation but just from what I've gathered from ppl that have been.

 

[Rubric]

Think the 12 months thing your thinking of is a casual contract I've heard similar that they cannot keep extending the casual contract past one year if they wish to retain your services they must either employ you permanantly or there must be a 6 month break between them offering you a new casual contract.

That is indeed the 12 month thing i was thinking of.

 

[Nate]

Cheers Yeke, guess thats what I've been hearing about. I think I'm on a daily contract, and as BT don't take no shit from nobody I doubt asking the Manager will get me anywhere. It's been generally spoke of before(hiring all the agency staff as BT contractors rather then Agency BT Contractors) and the Manager bullshitted his way out of it, saying how he could do that if he wanted to and all that..nothing ever happened. Was on a whim really, I get the feeling this jobs coming to an end and wanted to see if I can get any more cash out of it before it does.

None of what you said happens I'm afraid Borand, the job's monkey work so theres no point. Working hard gets you no where as no one will ever notice, or thank you for it.