Connection going wacko [monday 22th of July]

[aberrac]

GOA and Wannadoo

Just stuck a traceroute on the technical board so folks can see precisely where my connection goes haywire, but to nobody's suprise (I suspect we all knew...) it's Wannadoo yet again.

Somewhere in the back of my brain I seem to remember that Wannadoo either own, or are a major shareholder in, GOA - am I imagining that, and if not please GOA, find a new service provider - Wannadoo are pathetic



Doh, engage brain and spot the clue - seeing as it's the Wannadoo logo all over the bloody DAOC box, I guess they are rather heavily involved - but they are still pathetic...

 

[old.Kladen]

Re: GOA and Wannadoo

Originally posted by aberrac
if not please GOA, find a new service provider - Wannadoo are pathetic

we can only hope

edit: its still goa fault then if wanadoo own goa then its wanadoo:GOA fault and if not goa fault for still using wanadoo

 

[Israfael]

Repeated post -

S'alright for me, down to london, then over to france 16 hops.



Pity I'm not playing atm

It's NOT a problem with goa, and I doubt it's an easily fixable problem with Wanadoo to be honest. It's just that somewhere in the internet ether something broke, now switch your flamethrowers off for gods sake.

Before someone says I wouldn't be acting like this if I'd got connection problems, I would be the same. Yes, it's annoying, but for gods sake, things break in the computing world. You have to be patient.

If you're going to cancel you account, do it, and bugger off. There's no point bitching goa or wanadoo out.

I've worked for several ISPs and I understand how things can go wrong - it's a fact of life I'm afraid. Put up with it.

 

[Uncle Sick(tm)]

Soooo... and who would be the perfect, 100% lag free provider? Never any packet losses, <100 pings, free candy etc.?

Name one. Please.

I never claimed I was 100% satisfied with GOA... but I don't change my cotton picking opinion like my underwear.

"Oh, they are doing a great job! Events bla bla bla"
- connection problem -
"I fucking hate GOA bla bla bla"

Get a freaking grip...

 

[Darkwind]

I don't care if it's DAOC or just a stupid french router. Those getting paid to make sure it works better leave smoking room and go back to work.

 

[old.Greggor]

Originally posted by sickofit...


Tell you something, freak boy... I am paying for their service, too.
If you little shithead can't handle not being able to play for a couple of hours, I would suggest you start playing solitaire again.
Might be better for your nerves.

And now do me a favor, Mr. I only post if I want to be a little shithead... shut up, click your Start button - acessories- games- solitaire. Relax... oh, and did I tell you to shut up?

LOL i am relaxed hehe

 

[Uncle Sick(tm)]

Originally posted by old.Greggor


LOL i am relaxed hehe

That's because yer from Hib/Prydwen. We are all cool, relaxed and laid back.

 

[Asonn]

this really makes me laugh .

Yes its annoying when something your paying for can't be used , but shit happens .
GOA have acknowledged the prob and are trying to sort it out .
Some things take time to fix . Personally i couldn't care less if i was unable to play all night while they try to find and fix the prob .

 

[Uncle Sick(tm)]

Rejoice! Sanity is slowly taking over.

 

[old.Maleg]

what is wrong with goa? they should be able to run this like proffessionals. why dont they get rid of wanadoo??

I believe GOA is a France Telecom Company
I also believe Wanadoo is a France Telecom Company

Wait for it,

I'm pretty sure Opentransit is a France Telecom Company.

LD and Lag is bad but take it easy all. They've acknowledged the problem and are working on it. If you haven't noticed the Telecoms world is in a little bit of flux at the moment - if anything these types of problems may increase and some of them will have absolutely nothing to do wot GOA / Wanadoo / Opentransit.

If you are that upset about your levels of service I suggest you vote with your feet - I'm sure you won't be missed if you talk like you post (comment not specifically linked to quote above but just the general school boy flames).

 

[old.Bowen]

the oddest thing is there seems to be a pattern of time outs to their server hope they get their heads round it

Request timed out.
Reply from 193.252.123.13: bytes=32 time=470ms TTL=24
Reply from 193.252.123.13: bytes=32 time=170ms TTL=24
Reply from 193.252.123.13: bytes=32 time=40ms TTL=240
Reply from 193.252.123.13: bytes=32 time=70ms TTL=240
Reply from 193.252.123.13: bytes=32 time=150ms TTL=24
Reply from 193.252.123.13: bytes=32 time=40ms TTL=240
Reply from 193.252.123.13: bytes=32 time=30ms TTL=240
Reply from 193.252.123.13: bytes=32 time=150ms TTL=24
Reply from 193.252.123.13: bytes=32 time=30ms TTL=240
Request timed out.
Reply from 193.252.123.13: bytes=32 time=601ms TTL=23
Reply from 193.252.123.13: bytes=32 time=40ms TTL=235
Reply from 193.252.123.13: bytes=32 time=50ms TTL=235
Reply from 193.252.123.13: bytes=32 time=140ms TTL=23
Reply from 193.252.123.13: bytes=32 time=40ms TTL=235
Reply from 193.252.123.13: bytes=32 time=40ms TTL=235
Reply from 193.252.123.13: bytes=32 time=150ms TTL=23
Reply from 193.252.123.13: bytes=32 time=50ms TTL=235
Reply from 193.252.123.13: bytes=32 time=60ms TTL=235
Reply from 193.252.123.13: bytes=32 time=130ms TTL=23
Request timed out.
Reply from 193.252.123.13: bytes=32 time=631ms TTL=23
Reply from 193.252.123.13: bytes=32 time=141ms TTL=23
Reply from 193.252.123.13: bytes=32 time=50ms TTL=235
Reply from 193.252.123.13: bytes=32 time=60ms TTL=235
Reply from 193.252.123.13: bytes=32 time=170ms TTL=23
Reply from 193.252.123.13: bytes=32 time=40ms TTL=235
Reply from 193.252.123.13: bytes=32 time=70ms TTL=235
Reply from 193.252.123.13: bytes=32 time=120ms TTL=23
Reply from 193.252.123.13: bytes=32 time=50ms TTL=235
Reply from 193.252.123.13: bytes=32 time=40ms TTL=235
Request timed out.
Reply from 193.252.123.13: bytes=32 time=671ms TTL=23
Reply from 193.252.123.13: bytes=32 time=50ms TTL=235
Reply from 193.252.123.13: bytes=32 time=91ms TTL=235
Reply from 193.252.123.13: bytes=32 time=30ms TTL=235
Reply from 193.252.123.13: bytes=32 time=40ms TTL=235
Reply from 193.252.123.13: bytes=32 time=30ms TTL=235
Reply from 193.252.123.13: bytes=32 time=30ms TTL=235
Reply from 193.252.123.13: bytes=32 time=30ms TTL=235
Reply from 193.252.123.13: bytes=32 time=60ms TTL=235
Reply from 193.252.123.13: bytes=32 time=30ms TTL=235
Request timed out.
Reply from 193.252.123.13: bytes=32 time=681ms TTL=23
Reply from 193.252.123.13: bytes=32 time=40ms TTL=235
Reply from 193.252.123.13: bytes=32 time=100ms TTL=23
Reply from 193.252.123.13: bytes=32 time=41ms TTL=235
Reply from 193.252.123.13: bytes=32 time=70ms TTL=235
Reply from 193.252.123.13: bytes=32 time=100ms TTL=23
Reply from 193.252.123.13: bytes=32 time=50ms TTL=235
Reply from 193.252.123.13: bytes=32 time=30ms TTL=235
Reply from 193.252.123.13: bytes=32 time=90ms TTL=235
Reply from 193.252.123.13: bytes=32 time=80ms TTL=235
Reply from 193.252.123.13: bytes=32 time=30ms TTL=235

 

[aberrac]

Originally posted by IsrafaelCF

It's NOT a problem with goa, and I doubt it's an easily fixable problem with Wanadoo to be honest. It's just that somewhere in the internet ether something broke, now switch your flamethrowers off for gods sake.

.....

I've worked for several ISPs and I understand how things can go wrong - it's a fact of life I'm afraid. Put up with it.

No disagreement Israfael - but the thing I'm worried about is just how OFTEN the problem turns out to be Wannadoo, it's almost a given now that if things go wrong it will be one of their routers behind it.

 

[old.Bowen]

/em Gulps

Eeeerrr where's the server gone? - and no I didn't disconnect my network card halfway through the traceroot

Tracing route to 191.252.123.13 over a maximum of 30 hops

1 <10 ms <10 ms <10 ms 192.168.0.1
2 10 ms 10 ms 10 ms 10.144.119.254
3 10 ms 10 ms 10 ms nott-t2cam1-a-pos82.inet.ntl.com [80.4.46.9]
4 10 ms 10 ms 10 ms not-t2core-a-ge-wan61.inet.ntl.com [80.1.79.57]

5 10 ms 20 ms 21 ms lee-bb-a-so-300-0.inet.ntl.com [62.253.185.33]
6 20 ms 20 ms 20 ms pop-bb-b-so-100-0.inet.ntl.com [62.253.185.238]

7 20 ms 31 ms 20 ms so-4-2-0.cr1.lhr3.uk.mfnx.net [208.185.188.41]
8 * * * Request timed out.
9 * * * Request timed out.
10 * * * Request timed out.
11 * * * Request timed out.
12 * * * Request timed out.
13 * * * Request timed out.
14 * * * Request timed out.
15 * * * Request timed out.
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30 * * * Request timed out.

 

[Belsameth]

Originally posted by sickofit...

Jeez... get a grip on yourself, it's not like you are going to die from withdrawel...

actually....I feel my life force IS leaving me for not being able to reach 40

I don't mind though. I'll just get my neighbour to rez me

 

[Israfael]

Originally posted by aberrac


No disagreement Israfael - but the thing I'm worried about is just how OFTEN the problem turns out to be Wannadoo, it's almost a given now that if things go wrong it will be one of their routers behind it.

Unfortunatly there's not a damn thing we can do about it bar going over to the US version. Wanadoo are a crap ISP, for gods sake they bought freeserve, what more do you want.

I'm not defending them as such really it's just there's not a lot they can do to fix problems instantly. This could be anything from server crash to hardware failure to some muppet cutting the power somewhere, and it pains me to see all this crap arising.

Having been on various ISP's helpdesks I have had to deal with people like 90% of you lot ringing up and crying bloody hell when something breaks - problems are 99% of the time NOT easy to fix if they aren't fixed immediatly, and the problems may even not lie with wanadoo directly. They could have leased machines for example.

Just have a bit of damn patience. Yes I know that's easy for me to say.

 

[sandron]

Originally posted by IsrafaelCF

Unfortunatly there's not a damn thing we can do about it bar going over to the US version. Wanadoo are a crap ISP, for gods sake they bought freeserve, what more do you want.

US version is served by WorldCom interestingly.

 

[_tindel_]

C'mon Kalgarn!! I know you love it! =P

 

[Friznit]

Chill guys it's just some cleaning woman in france some place unpluged a router to use the vacum cleaner. That or a pimpily Tec spilt his coffee again

 

[Drclink]

C:\>tracert 193.252.123.33

Tracing route to 193.252.123.33 over a maximum of 30 hops

1 32 ms 31 ms 31 ms bthg303-hg2.bletchley.broadband.bt.net [217.32.6
1.201]
2 32 ms 31 ms 31 ms 217.32.61.129
3 31 ms 31 ms 32 ms 217.32.61.234
4 31 ms 31 ms 47 ms inh2cs01-603.imsnet2.btopenworld.com [62.7.251.1
29]
5 32 ms 31 ms 31 ms 213.120.62.145
6 31 ms 31 ms 31 ms 213.120.207.217
7 32 ms 31 ms 31 ms core2-pos4-2.bletchley.ukcore.bt.net [62.6.197.1
37]
8 31 ms 31 ms 31 ms core2-pos13-3.ilford.ukcore.bt.net [62.6.196.222
]
9 31 ms 32 ms 31 ms transit1-pos4-0.ilford.ukcore.bt.net [194.72.20.
230]
10 * 31 ms 31 ms transit1-pos3-0.tufnell.ukcore.bt.net [194.72.20
.138]
11 31 ms 31 ms 32 ms t2a4-p9-0.uk-lon2.concert.net [166.49.209.13]
12 31 ms 31 ms 31 ms t2c1-ge6-0.uk-lon2.concert.net [166.49.176.11]
13 47 ms 31 ms 31 ms t2c3-p0-0-0.uk-lon1.concert.net [166.49.208.122]

14 31 ms 31 ms 32 ms t2a2-ge5-0-0.uk-lon1.concert.net [166.49.135.18]

15 32 ms 31 ms 31 ms london.opentransit.net [195.66.224.83]
16 47 ms 47 ms 46 ms P13-0.PASCR1.Pastourelle.opentransit.net [193.25
1.154.225]
17 47 ms 47 ms 47 ms P4-0.BAGCR3.Bagnolet.opentransit.net [193.251.24
1.118]
18 156 ms 47 ms 47 ms P1-0.BAGBB1.Bagnolet.opentransit.net [193.251.24
1.145]
19 46 ms 47 ms 94 ms WanadooPortails1.GW.opentransit.net [193.251.251
.58]
20 94 ms 156 ms 109 ms 193.252.123.70
21 1656 ms 156 ms 47 ms 193.252.123.33

Trace complete.


draw you own conclusions either way its a pity i cant play

 

[old.Ayam Ganbatte]

Quit stepping on the grapes, kids!

 

[Orin Askhammare]

Originally posted by sandron


US version is served by WorldCom interestingly.

Who filed for bankrupcy today!

 

[aberrac]

Originally posted by IsrafaelCF

Just have a bit of damn patience. Yes I know that's easy for me to say.

Had plenty of patience friend, having been in DAOC Europe since closed beta it's been necessary at times

As a network manager for a 400 user network with permanent internet links, I know we press the companies we use to make sure they have backup equipment, switchable routing, and other levels of redundancy built in to their systems that we need to go through. Yep it's expensive, but we are not inclined to accept outages of any significant length of time... I know full well it would cost GOA to negotiate such things with Wannadoo, but if their customers shout enough they will start to look into doing such a renegotiation.


Interestingly, on the traceroute the routing within opentransit.net has changed, and speeds to the server are much higher, so time to go see if it's playable yet...

 

[Israfael]

It's difficult pressing a company that more or less owns you

 

[old.tRoG]

i went ld just as the dwarf dude (bragnir or something) got killed in the little duelling event on mid/exc

i then couldnt get back on, so after beating up my computer, i went out with my gf/soon-to-be-wife and engaged in social interaction. it was quite enlightening.

 

[aberrac]

Originally posted by IsrafaelCF
It's difficult pressing a company that more or less owns you

Difficult, yep - but the challenge makes it worthwhile...

 

[Combine]

What in the name of arse are you on about.

I have had DAoC for near enough 6 months now. The day i purchased the game I loaded it on.. and found out the server was down due to an Update that somehow went wrong.. i was a little worried about the future.. would this be a regular occurance?

To my suprise. nope.. apart from that and some n00bs DDOSing the server i have had NO downtime or seriousl lag in game in 6 months. 4 days in six months is bloody good really. You are all over reacting. There cant be that bad problems with the server cos I NEVER LD and i NEVER get bad lag apart from sometimes in RvR on raids where there are lots of people in a small area....

If I am not getting lots of problems then it is clearly not the servers fault. If its the server every1 would be in the same boat, but i am not so it must be a problem at ur end with the bad lag.

Talking about tonight.. well yes.. I am also experiencing the same problems.. that makes it 5 days out of 6 months.. well I am sorry.. but i REALLY dont see a problem with missing 5 days out of 6 months.. and well.. if u want a game with a better server uptime statistic then you should just leave.. not come on here and start telling the world how shit GOA and Wannadoo are... god people please just put it into perspective.

Why don't u go and do something resourceful whilst the server is in this state.. like read a book or go outside.. people who get this angry about server downtime are clearly recluses anyway..

and remember.. THERE IS MORE TO LIFE THAN DAoC!

 

[Israfael]

Combine - Thanks god there's at least one person who knows what I've been trying to get at.

 

[Combine]

Oooh.. so there are 2 of us now?

Cool.. how many more will see sense?

 

[Alrindel]

So since Excalibur was unplayable, Aeiedil and I logged onto Andred and decided to make some alts there. Aeiedil lasted about 20 minutes, and gave up, the lag was so bad. I stuck it out, despite four LDs in half an hour. Got to level 5 and made a bard, and got into a full group at the water beetles, where the lag was so bad that average response time for any command - heal, mezz, stand up, sit down - was 5-7 seconds. Two group members would be dead before I could get off the first heal. People were screaming, threatening to sue Mythic, quit the game forever. I didn't see anyone shouting "MYTHIC SUX LET'S ALL GO PLAY ON EURO SERVERS" but I doubt many Americans know we exist.

Just in case you think the solution is to go get a US account...

 

[old.Maleg]

Who filed for bankrupcy today!

Acutally the US parent company and most of their US subsidarcys filled for Chapter 11 Bankrupcy protection. Completely different from bankrupcy as we know it in Europe.

As far as I know on an operational side they are still running fine.

WorldCom carry a hell of alot of traffic if they don't manage to restructure and come out of Chapter 11 then things can (and probably will) get a hell of a lot worse.

Israfael - I understand what your saying. It is annoying not being able to play - problems occur, hell every MMORPG I've played has it's issues, just goes witht he terrority.