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Alrindel
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We did. Did you?
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old.Akirai
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Nobody to report from that defence. Nobody camped in the wall like you lot did, otherwise id have seen them the times i fell through, and when i was stuck behind the wall inside the keep.
I saw people fall through, finish their shot, and go back up.
I saw people fall through, finish their shot, and go back up.
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old.¥ØÐÄ
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dead hibs ? they were all alive . also casting spells/firing arows from inside . in one pic there is about 7-10 of em inside it "NON of them sitting which would suggest they may of fell throug and were regen hp."
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1. Greg has always been green
2. The first 2 screenshots show dipshit (get your gamma better dude because it is a lousy screenshot)
3. And at the last 3 I wonder where you are... Because it seems you are in the hillside of Dun Crim (Did anyone know that bug yet?)
But GOA will know who cheated and who not so we will wait and see.
2. The first 2 screenshots show dipshit (get your gamma better dude because it is a lousy screenshot)
3. And at the last 3 I wonder where you are... Because it seems you are in the hillside of Dun Crim (Did anyone know that bug yet?)
But GOA will know who cheated and who not so we will wait and see.
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Originally posted by old.Gregorian
me in crim-wall? yes - like 6times tonite
on purpose - well nope. just keep on fallin thru wall when jumpin ON wall to get u ugly freaks targetted
me shootin at u while in there? yepp - AFAIK 1time coz the arrow was fired while i made my way down
the normal proceedure u might ask? well - sit down, regain HP taken coz of fall dam, get out, go up the wall again
/em looks at the greg picture - wow me not at 100% HP? prolly falldamage again, maybe?
ask ur fellow realmmates where they mezzed, rooted, shot or whatever me - think was always ON the freakin wall.
so unless u got sumthin better than that nice pic of me u better stop callin me a cheater u lil PEEP.
P.S. who was that lil orange con lury who tried to kill me IN the wall while i was AGAIN short on HPs coz of falldamage? how did u get in there btw?? still u failed lol. and i thought palies r gimped.......
flame away
i saw you in there for at least 3mins with winter(i think) shooting people, resting for end, shooting etc
so dont make up all this bs....
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Eblessair
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he was wearing a black cloak.
he was shooting from in the wall.
banbanban
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Eblessair
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GOA/Mythic CANT fix the wall bug, it is a problem with the gfx engine afaik
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old.Ebeneezer
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ROFL @ lame Albs squirming and lying - wake up and smell the coffee boys and girls, that's pretty strong evidence IMO.
Don't flame Iziz please...she caught you with your pants down. It doesn't matter how she got the evidence, after all, even if she had to bug to catch you, she certainly didn't farm RP from inside there.
The biggest laugh is "Greg wears green". Great. I'll rob a bank now and in court I'll get all my friends to say "oh he never wears a balaclava"
The real shame is I enjoy my ranged fights with Greg, Winter and Godofredo. They can see me all the time and I like being able to see them, especially on battlements. So please stop cheating.
Shame on anybody who has a single illlegitimate RP. Mine are all squeaky clean and hard earned
Don't flame Iziz please...she caught you with your pants down. It doesn't matter how she got the evidence, after all, even if she had to bug to catch you, she certainly didn't farm RP from inside there.
The biggest laugh is "Greg wears green". Great. I'll rob a bank now and in court I'll get all my friends to say "oh he never wears a balaclava"
The real shame is I enjoy my ranged fights with Greg, Winter and Godofredo. They can see me all the time and I like being able to see them, especially on battlements. So please stop cheating.
Shame on anybody who has a single illlegitimate RP. Mine are all squeaky clean and hard earned
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Iziz is my hero!
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old.Odysseus
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I still await an answer from Iziz about how he got those screenies.
Im not blaming him for anything - I think its great if he gets some cheaters banned, but it seems to me that his method can be used to other ends that that.
Im not blaming him for anything - I think its great if he gets some cheaters banned, but it seems to me that his method can be used to other ends that that.
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old.Ebeneezer
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Who cares! She caught cheaters and doesn't cheat herself.
You wanna know so you can prevent her catching you in future right ?
(joke)
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old.Flix
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Iziz
I think Iziz did good there, alot of ppl last night told me that they died and did not see any ppl shoting them, but i told them ppl dont cheat anymore, and i did see aussie all the time on the wall.( damn you are orange to me now, cant a luxi ranger go on a 2 week's holiday? ) , but to Winter & Greg i did not see you most of the times, the ppl died from you !!! And yes i was looking realy hard , i think it is my job to stay stealth and try to get a crt. hit +1 or 2 normale shot at the hunter/scout on the wall killing ppl. so i was looking realy good !!!!
I was thinking that you maybe did cheat, but now we know for sure !!
I think Iziz did good there, alot of ppl last night told me that they died and did not see any ppl shoting them, but i told them ppl dont cheat anymore, and i did see aussie all the time on the wall.( damn you are orange to me now, cant a luxi ranger go on a 2 week's holiday? )
, but to Winter & Greg i did not see you most of the times, the ppl died from you !!! And yes i was looking realy hard , i think it is my job to stay stealth and try to get a crt. hit +1 or 2 normale shot at the hunter/scout on the wall killing ppl. so i was looking realy good !!!!I was thinking that you maybe did cheat, but now we know for sure !!
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Lurikeens & kobolds could both abuse certain bugs in the engine, just by tilting their camera... Noticed that while playing my lvl5 kobold on Prydwen, hope it gets fixed in the next client.
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Originally posted by old.Ebeneezer
ROFL @ lame Albs squirming and lying - wake up and smell the coffee boys and girls, that's pretty strong evidence IMO.
The biggest laugh is "Greg wears green". Great. I'll rob a bank now and in court I'll get all my friends to say "oh he never wears a balaclava"
Shame on anybody who has a single illlegitimate RP. Mine are all squeaky clean and hard earned
Agreed Ebeneezer. Ban all cheaters and laugh at me, if I was wrong.
Greg was wearing green for the last two month, but last time I saw him, was two days ago. He could have changed his looks. - TBH, I don't know. If it's him - ban him. There is no excuse for abusing this bug.
I was not squirming and lying and I surely am not lame. Bug abusing is lame and you will never catch me abusing any bug - simply because I have never done it nor will I.
If it really turns out Greg was abusing this bug, if it turns out he doesn't wear green any more, I owe you an appology.
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Originally posted by old.Ebeneezer
ROFL @ lame Albs squirming and lying - wake up and smell the coffee boys and girls, that's pretty strong evidence IMO.
Don't flame Iziz please...she caught you with your pants down. It doesn't matter how she got the evidence, after all, even if she had to bug to catch you, she certainly didn't farm RP from inside there.
The biggest laugh is "Greg wears green". Great. I'll rob a bank now and in court I'll get all my friends to say "oh he never wears a balaclava"
The real shame is I enjoy my ranged fights with Greg, Winter and Godofredo. They can see me all the time and I like being able to see them, especially on battlements. So please stop cheating.
Shame on anybody who has a single illlegitimate RP. Mine are all squeaky clean and hard earned
Conclusive proof alright, and look he also caught some invisible guy called Younger.
And I xp killed Aeiedel about 40 times aswell, just before he got this screenshot
Now tell me those screenshots are CONCLUSIVE proof. Screenshots aren't conclusive, peroid (Only GOA can get conclusive proof) on top of that not one of these screenshots actually shows anyone in the wall shooting someone (There is no text saying PlayerA shoots PlayerB). The players in the screenshots could be anyone, just because you have laughed at someone or have someone in your target while you take a screenshot doesn't prove it's them.
I don't know any of the people in question here, if they cheat I want them banned (I want ALL cheats banned) but this "evidence" is laughable. It would be quite easy to stick anyone's name in those screenshots and claim they were a cheat. Just report it to GOA and quit with the slander
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well, I have once due to long time without relogg/reboot and then some heavy lagg at a keep suddenly lost the seight of the walls and seen through them. can't say it is the case tho.
and btw. stop that BS about "those screenies don't prove shit bla bla bla" cuz GOA will not use screenies as evidence when banning ppl. They will look at loggs and then be able to se what everyone and from where. And now, after you all know this, why flame iziz and shout at her? you afraid of something?
and btw. stop that BS about "those screenies don't prove shit bla bla bla" cuz GOA will not use screenies as evidence when banning ppl. They will look at loggs and then be able to se what everyone and from where. And now, after you all know this, why flame iziz and shout at her? you afraid of something?
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Acctually...those screenies dont prove much....
first screenie: Guy getting shot on the keep walls and the archer could have been ANYWHERE inside the keep.
Second screenie: Guy getting shot outside the keep and now the archer have an even bigger area to hide in.
3th 4th and 5th screenie: Welly um...the same guy getting caught firing inside the wall but from different angles but that person is later supposed to be 3 different persons? I doubt it. I dont think 3 scouts wear the exactly same colors and stand on the same spot and shoot ppl.
Sry but those screenies dont show much...guess we will just have to wait and see who is missing for 3 days soon.
first screenie: Guy getting shot on the keep walls and the archer could have been ANYWHERE inside the keep.
Second screenie: Guy getting shot outside the keep and now the archer have an even bigger area to hide in.
3th 4th and 5th screenie: Welly um...the same guy getting caught firing inside the wall but from different angles but that person is later supposed to be 3 different persons? I doubt it. I dont think 3 scouts wear the exactly same colors and stand on the same spot and shoot ppl
. Sry but those screenies dont show much...guess we will just have to wait and see who is missing for 3 days soon
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old.Akirai
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Well i was in blue with black cloak and yellow bow. Just dyed my clothes black today though incase anyone sees me and thinks hmmm
But then again, everyone in them screenies looks like theyre wearing black from a distance. But my yellow bow is unmissable
But then again, everyone in them screenies looks like theyre wearing black from a distance. But my yellow bow is unmissable
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If they were useing a bug ban them, but then you must also ban iziz for useing a bug. Even if iziz did not kill anyone while in the hill (where I asume iziz is) she/he still deliberatly used a bug. I am sure iziz didn't accidentally fall into the hill.
From what I gather there were alot of ppl who fell into the walls, there were some whjo stayed and some who rested and some who tried to get back in. If everyone who used the bug is banned then we must ban everyone who has used any bug. That means the 10,000 ppl a day who jump thru the wall in barrows to tele back to the bind point as well.
From what I gather there were alot of ppl who fell into the walls, there were some whjo stayed and some who rested and some who tried to get back in. If everyone who used the bug is banned then we must ban everyone who has used any bug. That means the 10,000 ppl a day who jump thru the wall in barrows to tele back to the bind point as well.
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you cant go inside the hill at crim, its a camera bug with the smaller classes of daoc, eg luri, kobby.
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At first I started off on the top right side of the keep but after you (flix) started popping arrows at me as soon as i unstealthed, i realised i wasn't really gonna have a chance to shoot properly so i moved to the tower and tried to fire from there.. you saw me too and fired at me.
It was then when I moved to the left side of the keep and stood BEHIND kinad to fire, so when u tried to click on me, you ended up clicking on kinad. Thats why you didnt see me i guess
As for Greg, he was next to aussie. How did you not see him? Most of our scouts were on the left side anyway.
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Now the wall stuff, like i told iziz I fell down through the floor, (lag + loadsa people + bugged game engine = that result). I fell and lost some hp so i sat down stealthed. At first I thought i had fallen outside, but when the firbs in front of me didnt attack i knew something was wrong, I had fallen into the wall. (btw this is the first time ive ever been inside a wall). I clicked on a blue firb and it said 'target not in view' and i had the bow tensed.
I had the bow like that until it said 'you are too tired to hold the shot etc etc'. It was then when I got /laugh spams from someone.
Being the 1st time ive ever been inside a wall, i didnt know how to get out, (i found out eventually in the end, i just had to walk through the wall, Doh!). The hard thing was getting back into the keep (gatekeeper blocked
) Once i got back in I resumed my position behind Kinad (my human shield hihi). If you dont believe me you can ask Dexa ( nightshade?), she/he saw me loadsa times and even killed me while i was there once. well thats my story, believe it or not
/salute
ps I hate u flix
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It's only against the rules if you exploit a bug for some gain/advantage. I don't believe Iziz did this in these screenshots, if he went on to tell his realm mates how many defenders there were in the keep then yes he should also be banned, but that is something GOA would have to look into, the screenshots alone don't prove he exploited the bug.
Innocent until proven guilty, it may not be real life but that doesn't mean we have to be run by linch mobs
If you enter the wall to take screenshots of people abusing a bug this is not abusing the bug yourself. If you kill those people then you're in a grey area, since the bug isn't actually giving you an advantage over your foe, only GOA can decide.
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[Edit: Having said that the screenshots on the hill aren't Iziz, but it doesn't affect my point
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hmmk - perhaps if you'd looked at the screenies you'd see it wasn't me supposidly "inside the hill".
Like I said, the info is in GOA's hands now, they'll look through the logs and with help from the screenies can determine where people were at those times and decide whether it was bug abuse or not. Simple as that.
Like I said, the info is in GOA's hands now, they'll look through the logs and with help from the screenies can determine where people were at those times and decide whether it was bug abuse or not. Simple as that.
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This one has got to be my favourite
http://www.talifer.com/images/godo-aeiedel-highlite.jpg
It shows some guy, no real proof of who, stood with his BACK to the enemy with his bow safely by his SIDE.
How on earth can you say this proves Godofredo is cheating?!?!
Talifer
http://www.talifer.com/images/godo-aeiedel-highlite.jpg
It shows some guy, no real proof of who, stood with his BACK to the enemy with his bow safely by his SIDE.
How on earth can you say this proves Godofredo is cheating?!?!
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Imho, the looking through the hill is cheating too...
And yes its to gain an advantage in battle... You then know how many are in the keep... Can you target them then too? Even worse, since you then can see who and their con...
As for the screenies... Lets just leave that up to GOA... The ppl that shot from within the keep walls should be banned...
But lets stop the 'you albions' sh!t... Several ppl from all realms have been caught... Doesnt mean all albs or all hibs or all mids are cheaters... You always have a few bad apples in a tree...
And yes its to gain an advantage in battle... You then know how many are in the keep... Can you target them then too? Even worse, since you then can see who and their con...
As for the screenies... Lets just leave that up to GOA... The ppl that shot from within the keep walls should be banned...
But lets stop the 'you albions' sh!t... Several ppl from all realms have been caught... Doesnt mean all albs or all hibs or all mids are cheaters... You always have a few bad apples in a tree...
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But you then have to USE this information, if the person talking the screenshots takes no part in the fight and imparts the information to noone, they have gained no advantage (However unlikely that situation is, there's no proof to the contrary)
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Neither Iziz nor Aeiedel need to use weird short-model clipping bugs to know exactly how many defenders are in a keep, what levels, where they are, what they are doing and if they're having a cup of tea waiting for the enemy rams to get assembled, how many sugars they each take.
Nevertheless these screenshots - http://www.talifer.co.uk/images/winter-aeiedel-change.jpg in particular - do conclusively establish that Aeiedel is one ugly froglike lurikeen mofo, and pictures don't lie.
Nevertheless these screenshots - http://www.talifer.co.uk/images/winter-aeiedel-change.jpg in particular - do conclusively establish that Aeiedel is one ugly froglike lurikeen mofo, and pictures don't lie.
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Can't argue with that
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That was me!! Got tired of the arrows fired from inside the wall all the time. My whole grouped kepts saying that it was stupid staying at crim, as we kept having casualties from wallbug abusers.
What i do is when i am hit by a arrow, I engage, I stick (if not in range i just move in that diretion until i can stick), then i just keep sticking to the abuser until i get a pbaoe or he is stupid enough to get close enough to i can hit him myself..
I logged at crim last night, before the battle ended. I got soo tired of that wallabuse, Godo, Sharp etc. etc. saying they aint doing it on purpose is lying or just very very slow to discover that they no longer are above a wall, but instead on the ground. I cought you guys several times with my /stick command after being shot at. And its imposible to stick to a guy on the wall.
I have taken lots of scrennies, but after looking at em they alone ait enough, but with the day and time mentioned aswell, GOA should be able to see when you guys have fall damage and how many kills/shots/rps you get before doing a /stuck or whatever is needed to get out of the wall again.
Finally a little thx and grats to mids, I have Only seen NP doing this abuse and noones else from mid. I cant say the same about albs, when its comes to albs the question is how many is in the wall and not if there is one in the wall or not.
shame for those splendid albs that play fair, that some just cant resist the easy rps of cheating. It hurts all in your realm..
Hope you hunters get banned permanently, i no longer can be bothered to help in retaking keeps when there is 2-3 albs in the walls ALLWAYS..
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Yes i was hitting Kinad alot and he was on my right side all the time, but if you was hiding behind him, then i dont understand why i did not see you after he run from my arrows, you cant shot after he starts shoting and get away before he starts runnning away, that cant be done, and i did not see you there. But i am not a player who starts saying "cheter" before i know 100 % for sure , and i am not sure with you , so i belive you
As for greg Hmmmm i cant remember any time i hit him, but we have to ask him, i know i hit Aussie and Kinad ALOT and they was on top of the wall most of the time.
btw. I was hiding behind the Catapult all the time , and did not get hit, until the damn thing went down, next time i bring one my self
And Winter dont hate me, i kinda like you
Aussie i realy like to kill you now that you got all the level's
One more thing: This game i dont understand , i get 1 time shot and die from a level 50 scout , and i am level 47 , today i was hit with 988 and i got 859 hp . is that fair ? i dont think so
Winter
Yes i was hitting Kinad alot and he was on my right side all the time, but if you was hiding behind him, then i dont understand why i did not see you after he run from my arrows, you cant shot after he starts shoting and get away before he starts runnning away, that cant be done, and i did not see you there. But i am not a player who starts saying "cheter" before i know 100 % for sure , and i am not sure with you ,
so i belive youAs for greg Hmmmm i cant remember any time i hit him, but we have to ask him, i know i hit Aussie and Kinad ALOT and they was on top of the wall most of the time.
btw. I was hiding behind the Catapult all the time , and did not get hit, until the damn thing went down, next time i bring one my self
And Winter dont hate me, i kinda like you
Aussie i realy like to kill you now that you got all the level's
One more thing: This game i dont understand , i get 1 time shot and die from a level 50 scout , and i am level 47 , today i was hit with 988 and i got 859 hp . is that fair ? i dont think so
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