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Edlina for the most bitter post today!
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Larssi
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Here I was reading this post of yours, thinking Oh some hib guy posting about the numbers and challenge etc... but erm you're an alb? alb posting about numbers? from PE? posting about the challenge? /sigh
I do hope realms would be more balanced. But that's prolly somethng Mythic has no medicine for :/
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What does it matter whether I'm an Alb or Hib? A mid could've wrote what I wrote. It still would've meant the same.
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Edlina
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:> Spug was just saying how well planned it was to move a zerg through the frontier without the enemy noticing, well do'h, if you consider that good planning.... And then saying you woulda taken the alb relics if not for some ld ram carriers, well it's kinda obvious then, that there wasn't any planning really
how can you *not* bring enough rams to a relic raid when you can max use 9 rams on a full relic keep, and have 140 people to carry....? That shows extremely poor planning, imo.
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old.Spug
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was plenty of planning, just happened that the ram carriers that LD'd were needed for a certain task, just meant our raid took longer, meaning teh alb zerg had time to show up.
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GrivneKelmorian
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<gives Edlina a cookie>
Now now...go play with the other children untill its supper time.
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Cush
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Grivne you not suppose to give them cookies this close to supper. It will ruine there apitite(sp?)
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Albs from Pe talking about a challenge, lol.
Like cleaning up Emain with your ubergroup is a challenge.
Come get our relics primetime, thats a challenge.
Like cleaning up Emain with your ubergroup is a challenge.
Come get our relics primetime, thats a challenge.
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old.Spug
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They're just upset cos no one stayed in emain to play with them, thats all 
seriously, if you're that upset that we took hib's relic, come take it from us and give it back, we did it in prime time, no cheating, completely within the boundries of whats considered fair play and still alb whines.
and griv, shush you fotm thane fool
seriously, if you're that upset that we took hib's relic, come take it from us and give it back,
we did it in prime time, no cheating, completely within the boundries of whats considered fair play and still alb whines.and griv, shush you fotm thane fool
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Originally posted by old.Spug
They're just upset cos no one stayed in emain to play with them, thats all
seriously, if you're that upset that we took hib's relic, come take it from us and give it back,
and griv, shush you fotm thane fool
Not taking in count bout PE that yesterday (by chance surely) not nuff happy of ganking everything when they had a BIT of fight from our grp Dioz and Co added and since we were far from any mgs i doubt they were there just for the sightseeing ;D
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think it is kinda funny thta hibs whine.. what do you what us to do... tell half the ppl that show's up to stay at home? or just not attack? the last would be bloody uber for hibs ... imaging you got all 6 relics.... and no one is aloved to attack you becourse you got fewer lvl 50's
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old.tuppe
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read some messages from prydwen.net and started think (alott unused capacity )
when last time hibs made realmwide relicraid?
when last time hibs relickeep was under attack (and relic inside)
compare result to alb/mids and how much we have experience about these.
if hibs dont do these raids, even unsuccefull, who have experience in realm?
someone mentioned in prydwen.net there was ~190 lvl 50 hibs online, why so small ammount show up?
even 50+ lvl 50 hibs could turn fight whit! relickeep guards to hibs, when attack correct time.
what i see hibs nowdays lacking is experience about big raids and co-operation inside realm.
start do relicraids! ~100 is nice number and worth to try, learn if all go wrong?, and try again later.
get realm up, give info to all alliances and do it.
agree, it was fast raid, dunno if alb/mid could stop it?
(maybe albs whit 50+ logged in relickeep )
ps. i posted hibs strat here, dunno how many readed it? but it was nice and clever.
how to stop that kind raids? nada, cannot do anything (maybe keep bledmeer allways mids hand?)
)when last time hibs made realmwide relicraid?
when last time hibs relickeep was under attack (and relic inside)
compare result to alb/mids and how much we have experience about these.
if hibs dont do these raids, even unsuccefull, who have experience in realm?
someone mentioned in prydwen.net there was ~190 lvl 50 hibs online, why so small ammount show up?
even 50+ lvl 50 hibs could turn fight whit! relickeep guards to hibs, when attack correct time.
what i see hibs nowdays lacking is experience about big raids and co-operation inside realm.
start do relicraids! ~100 is nice number and worth to try, learn if all go wrong?, and try again later.
get realm up, give info to all alliances and do it.
agree, it was fast raid, dunno if alb/mid could stop it?
(maybe albs whit 50+ logged in relickeep
)ps. i posted hibs strat here, dunno how many readed it? but it was nice and clever.
how to stop that kind raids? nada, cannot do anything (maybe keep bledmeer allways mids hand?)
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ahahah
post good for a good laugh tbh
A) we don't whine bout anything every1 is free to play as he prefers THO u must admit anyhow that any1 is free to say what he prefers (so don't be amazed bout whines).
B) it's just a discussion (and let me say, tbh, if u pointed that zerg against Alb u would had a less shiny morning sun on your faces bashing Excalibur Castle) on what can be considered fair or unfair and what can WE make to balance a bit this game since Mythic doesn't care less about it.
Obviously if u are a kid (fair nuff any of us been kid time ago) or acting like a kid (unfair cause u'd have to think about it) u can't care less on having fun and your only target would and will be "OMG what kinda god i am i can kill everything moving AHAHAHAHHAH" or somewhat like this..
Cheers
post good for a good laugh tbh
A) we don't whine bout anything every1 is free to play as he prefers THO u must admit anyhow that any1 is free to say what he prefers (so don't be amazed bout whines).
B) it's just a discussion (and let me say, tbh, if u pointed that zerg against Alb u would had a less shiny morning sun on your faces bashing Excalibur Castle) on what can be considered fair or unfair and what can WE make to balance a bit this game since Mythic doesn't care less about it.
Obviously if u are a kid (fair nuff any of us been kid time ago) or acting like a kid (unfair cause u'd have to think about it) u can't care less on having fun and your only target would and will be "OMG what kinda god i am i can kill everything moving AHAHAHAHHAH" or somewhat like this..
Cheers
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Originally posted by Roo Stercogburn
Post-relic raid threads:
Winning side: Yay us
Whining side: n00bzergersffs
Uninvolved side: We would have done it better.
Same old same old fertilizer.
Relics changing hands is a good thing and livens the server up.
Now stop complaining, start plotting, get your realms actually cooperating and come make the attempt.
Bring on the fun
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Hibs you cant just whine oh we couldnt defend, how many of you have chanter alts to log at rk anyway
And the way you took the relic in the first place wasn't exactly with honour moaning at us taking it like candy from a baby? prime time you had guard spammed.
You say you want to do all this in RVR but you not going to do it sitting on your ass and sulking,
and /level 30 will cause a lot of alts yeh, but it also has caused people to come over i have seen a few blues going from briefine > emain, which i suspect are probably the /level 30's you just assume no one has stayed but i bet a few have, you maybe an inbred realm but you dont know everyone
Now im considering paying as we have the 3rd power relic back as i missed it very much as i do crap damage as it is
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v-man
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huh...when did I do that, this is like my second ever post and only other one was because Lilli asked me to defend her about 2 days ago =/. Its not as if it was even your amazing strategy, you plagurised it offa an US alb attempt the same day they posted it on VN so anyone that even glances at their forums knew how it was done. What do you even care anyway, I thought you "quit" as you do a few months ago and were moving onto bigger and better things.
As for the raid yesterday, well done Mids, youve once again flexed your population arm and have indeed proven that the figures on population problems are indeed correct, saying we had 200 level50's online at the raid, is great when you measure how many were online when youd finished the raid.
We actually had 87 level50's online when you first hit the guards, by the time the other 120 logged in your 160 people were already halfway through breaking down the inner door, not to mention the 3fgs camping Cain, as well as the fg causing havoc in the gorge, along with your Alb buddies that once again just "happen" to decide to go and camp a BK minutes before one of your Relic Raids kicks off.
Well I hope the added 10% power was worth it, you probably deserve it in one way or another. Oh well, off to try and get DF for an hour so we can muster up the money to repair the doors again I guess.
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your not bitter
get some money for those onager things to even try to get those power relics again for your oh so precious chanters
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old.Spug
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damn, caught getting the albs helping us make mid more powerful!!!
shit, what do we do now!
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v-man
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Aye is sad isnt it
. All those fotm chanters with their overpowered FP that can kill even the mighty Glacier Giant with little or no effort, Albion and Midgard have to unite to survive, long live the reign if Midbion....or is that Albgard?Fear the underhill....for they are coming!
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Originally posted by kalgarn
venoid posted it on the VN boards and it was posted in here too when some mid saw the post there.
You posted it on the VN boards t u v much, and no it wasn't my idea - far from it - and I never said it was - now, be less bitter about this whole game, purrlease.
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Lol..., I dont know whether to laugh or cry at how sudden you take everything you read on these forums for granted.
So let me get this straight, because I posted on the VN boards, and made a reply to a thread that was related to the American version of the raid did a day before ours, that means I suddenly informed all of Prydwen how you pulled it off?
Ok, Ill try and enlighten you on what Kalgarn (altho give him 10/10 for noticing and even remembering coz I didnt) noticed on VN about 3weeks ago.
The only post I made on the VN boards was in a single reply, like the 6th reply of what turned into a 33 post thread, saying that Mythic should stop those sort of raids from being able to be pulled off, I confirmed to a doubtful poster that I had seen 1st hand and yes indeed it could be done.
This was about a whole week after your raid, and tbh, if anyone was actually reading that post, even without my reply then I think they would be able to put 2 and 2 together (since if I recall rightly the thread actually had a link to the actual Albion gloat thread as well), and figure out how we did ours, thats assuming they were even bothering to still look and find out at the time.
After all you did the raid 1 day after the original creators of it posted their success on VN themselves, so if they saw my 1 reply to a thread made a week later, and happened to even know that I was in this realm, on this server, as only a week ago did I even get round to bothering to make a signature on those forums due to a request from the Guardian boards, and since Ive not actually even registered on BW till recently, and Im sure most unless they read Prydwen forums dont even know who I am, then yes I admit, I informed the entire server in a maliceful attempt to undermine your clear superiority. Altho if anyone in Midgard reads VN HIBERNIA forums to notice my 1 reply, then Im pretty sure they would of read the ALBION forums gloat that was at the top the day you actually did the raid and where you pulled the tactics from....but then again Im probably wrong about that as well.
/edit and yes Im very bitter atm, as Im 2.5plat out of pocket because I was going to take the other 2 relics at 9 PM yesterday, only to find that the one we had was hijacked by a horde of Barbarians 15minutes before the force Id put together was about to port...
So let me get this straight, because I posted on the VN boards, and made a reply to a thread that was related to the American version of the raid did a day before ours, that means I suddenly informed all of Prydwen how you pulled it off?
Ok, Ill try and enlighten you on what Kalgarn (altho give him 10/10 for noticing and even remembering coz I didnt) noticed on VN about 3weeks ago.
The only post I made on the VN boards was in a single reply, like the 6th reply of what turned into a 33 post thread, saying that Mythic should stop those sort of raids from being able to be pulled off, I confirmed to a doubtful poster that I had seen 1st hand and yes indeed it could be done.
This was about a whole week after your raid, and tbh, if anyone was actually reading that post, even without my reply then I think they would be able to put 2 and 2 together (since if I recall rightly the thread actually had a link to the actual Albion gloat thread as well), and figure out how we did ours, thats assuming they were even bothering to still look and find out at the time.
After all you did the raid 1 day after the original creators of it posted their success on VN themselves, so if they saw my 1 reply to a thread made a week later, and happened to even know that I was in this realm, on this server, as only a week ago did I even get round to bothering to make a signature on those forums due to a request from the Guardian boards, and since Ive not actually even registered on BW till recently, and Im sure most unless they read Prydwen forums dont even know who I am, then yes I admit, I informed the entire server in a maliceful attempt to undermine your clear superiority. Altho if anyone in Midgard reads VN HIBERNIA forums to notice my 1 reply, then Im pretty sure they would of read the ALBION forums gloat that was at the top the day you actually did the raid and where you pulled the tactics from....but then again Im probably wrong about that as well.
/edit and yes Im very bitter atm, as Im 2.5plat out of pocket because I was going to take the other 2 relics at 9 PM yesterday, only to find that the one we had was hijacked by a horde of Barbarians 15minutes before the force Id put together was about to port...
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lol!
there was NO WAY hibs could have defended against 200 mids (or there abouts) & to say we could have when relic was taken within 15 mins from 1st warning... lmao
To get to relic from Ligen takes roughly 5+mins
It would take at least 10+ mins to TRY & just get ppl together
Unlike mids/albs not alot of us have another alt L50 parked in RK (but yes after patch we have a better chance) until then i dont see no point what so ever in even trying another relic raid. Chances are will just be out-numbered massivly..as always, even after patch.
With hibs current problem with population RR's (unless like the last 1 was done which ive posted my feelings about in another reply) are useless. Hibs population imo will never get better, it might go up slightly, but its going to take alot more than the joke /level 30 command to do it.
I for one will be leaving DAoC as soon another better MMORPG becomes live (D&L atm ) unless the population on hib rises dramatically from now until then (which lets face it is pretty much 0% ) so it puts the fun back into RvR & we can actually have a fair chance of RR's & Defending etc.., & im sure theres many more hibs that feel the same, the whole idea of RvR imo is about taking keeps & relics & doing it as a realm, for hibs RR's on pryd this is something of the past. Until D&L comes out..I will plod-on in rvr still mainly because im GL of a regular guild grp that i run with & have become good friends with them
Idiots/munkees whatever, at mythic have done to little too late imo.. & im sure i speak for more than just myself... hib/pryd rvr to put it bluntly..is fooked & it wouldnt surprise me that not too far from now hib rvr will be kind of none existant! which is a damn shame because the community for it p!sses all over any other server/realm & this is the only thing hib/pryd has going for it & is the reason why i have stayed in DAoC as a hib
there was NO WAY hibs could have defended against 200 mids (or there abouts) & to say we could have when relic was taken within 15 mins from 1st warning... lmao
To get to relic from Ligen takes roughly 5+mins
It would take at least 10+ mins to TRY & just get ppl together
Unlike mids/albs not alot of us have another alt L50 parked in RK (but yes after patch we have a better chance) until then i dont see no point what so ever in even trying another relic raid. Chances are will just be out-numbered massivly..as always, even after patch.
With hibs current problem with population RR's (unless like the last 1 was done which ive posted my feelings about in another reply) are useless. Hibs population imo will never get better, it might go up slightly, but its going to take alot more than the joke /level 30 command to do it.
I for one will be leaving DAoC as soon another better MMORPG becomes live (D&L atm
) unless the population on hib rises dramatically from now until then (which lets face it is pretty much 0% ) so it puts the fun back into RvR & we can actually have a fair chance of RR's & Defending etc.., & im sure theres many more hibs that feel the same, the whole idea of RvR imo is about taking keeps & relics & doing it as a realm, for hibs RR's on pryd this is something of the past. Until D&L comes out..I will plod-on in rvr still mainly because im GL of a regular guild grp that i run with & have become good friends with them Idiots/munkees whatever, at mythic have done to little too late imo.. & im sure i speak for more than just myself... hib/pryd rvr to put it bluntly..is fooked & it wouldnt surprise me that not too far from now hib rvr will be kind of none existant!
which is a damn shame because the community for it p!sses all over any other server/realm & this is the only thing hib/pryd has going for it & is the reason why i have stayed in DAoC as a hib
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As it happens to be... That was exactly what did happen, since a mid saw your post and put 2 and 2 together... So question really is how hard it was for you to not post that on VN - after being told to be quiet at least 100 times....? They might have known anyway, might not have, but still you *had* to go and make a post?
Oh, and what raid costs 2.5plat o.0?
You bought 20 trebs, rams and those other things I can't remember what's called
? Even though, even that wouldn't be more than ~1.5 plat so can't be it...Oh, and lookie how mids got relics, nothing fancy wiff keep taking, just go and bash dem doors imo. (according to ppl there were almost 200 lvl 50 hibs on, plenty to do what mids did even if only 2 out of3 comes.)
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http: //vnboards.ign.com/message.asp?topic=55565740&page=3 (dont copy and paste, take the space out at the start coz its not letting me post URLs yet Oo)
Heres your thread if youd like to have a gander of it yourself, take into account at the time of my posting there wasnt a signature stating my realm and class, and tell me that if I hadnt of posted it would of made the slightest bit of difference.
And yes, if we pulled all our crafters and pve'ers out, and got 99% of our realms population online, actually taught our realm how to navigate through the more difficult terrain of Midgard, took a few keeps in the days coming up so the RK guards would have a chance of being level1-3 as opposed to the normal 5-7, taught our realm how to use rams, and actually had the RvR guilds stop thinking of how many rps they could be earning in Emain during those 10-15minutes RRing then YES, we could actually have a small chance to duplicate what midgard did against us.
I might point out tho, that a previous poster on this or another thread has already said Midgard have RRed Albion on 4 occasions previous to this raid, one at 12noon, 2 at 9AM and one was even at 3:30 in the morning Oo, now if a realm that has pretty much equal population, cant take relics from another at 3:30 in a morning, then how the hell do u spose a realm with half the population is sposed to do it at primetime.
Unlike them tho it would take considerably longer than a week to rally that sort of a force, and we wouldnt have the luxury of leaving half our realm behind at the same time we did it. So it boils down to whats the point? We spend a month doing it, and the favors returned within less than a week. You yourself Ed remind people on many occasions that zerging breeds zerging.
Heres your thread if youd like to have a gander of it yourself, take into account at the time of my posting there wasnt a signature stating my realm and class, and tell me that if I hadnt of posted it would of made the slightest bit of difference.
And yes, if we pulled all our crafters and pve'ers out, and got 99% of our realms population online, actually taught our realm how to navigate through the more difficult terrain of Midgard, took a few keeps in the days coming up so the RK guards would have a chance of being level1-3 as opposed to the normal 5-7, taught our realm how to use rams, and actually had the RvR guilds stop thinking of how many rps they could be earning in Emain during those 10-15minutes RRing then YES, we could actually have a small chance to duplicate what midgard did against us.
I might point out tho, that a previous poster on this or another thread has already said Midgard have RRed Albion on 4 occasions previous to this raid, one at 12noon, 2 at 9AM and one was even at 3:30 in the morning Oo, now if a realm that has pretty much equal population, cant take relics from another at 3:30 in a morning, then how the hell do u spose a realm with half the population is sposed to do it at primetime.
Unlike them tho it would take considerably longer than a week to rally that sort of a force, and we wouldnt have the luxury of leaving half our realm behind at the same time we did it. So it boils down to whats the point? We spend a month doing it, and the favors returned within less than a week. You yourself Ed remind people on many occasions that zerging breeds zerging
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actually, the two previous recent attempts I've been on havent had anywhere near the numbers this one did. and tbh, I think we got these numbers more through luck than planning.
We started spamming AS an hour before hand, and let rep's from other alliances know too, and as we set out I was still getting PM's from people wanting in. Guild's I'd never have thought would follow our lead dropped in to help us out.
People keep saying "we can't marshall the forces, we dont have the leadership" dont wait for other people to do it, do it yourself. if a small guild like Talons Reach can plan a Relic Raid, and have multiple alliances show up claiming its a good idea, then hell, anythings possible.
We started spamming AS an hour before hand, and let rep's from other alliances know too, and as we set out I was still getting PM's from people wanting in. Guild's I'd never have thought would follow our lead dropped in to help us out.
People keep saying "we can't marshall the forces, we dont have the leadership" dont wait for other people to do it, do it yourself. if a small guild like Talons Reach can plan a Relic Raid, and have multiple alliances show up claiming its a good idea, then hell, anythings possible.
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proof that /level 30 hasnt worked for hib: (from duskwave btw )
Characters
Albion 18,958 (33%)
Hibernia 19,247 (34%)
Midgard 18,437 (33%)
Total 56,642
Active Characters
Albion 4,139 (39%)
Hibernia 2,891 (27%)
Midgard3,674 (34%)
Total 10,704
Level 50's
Albion 2,099 (38%)
Hibernia 1,382 (25%)
Midgard 2,071 (37%)
most characters but less actives
but it was still a nicely planned RR so well done TR
)Characters
Albion 18,958 (33%)
Hibernia 19,247 (34%)
Midgard 18,437 (33%)
Total 56,642
Active Characters
Albion 4,139 (39%)
Hibernia 2,891 (27%)
Midgard3,674 (34%)
Total 10,704
Level 50's
Albion 2,099 (38%)
Hibernia 1,382 (25%)
Midgard 2,071 (37%)
most characters but less actives
but it was still a nicely planned RR so well done TR
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Hell, it only worked because I turned up.
Honest.
Really!
<Cave shaman hides in corner>
This was a well organised RR, and I and the rest of PW were quite impressed. I've been on a few (all complete and dismal failures) so was beginning to believe I was a jinx... but I digress. Nice one TR!
Albs next.
<makes scary troll face>
Honest.
Really!
<Cave shaman hides in corner>
This was a well organised RR, and I and the rest of PW were quite impressed. I've been on a few (all complete and dismal failures) so was beginning to believe I was a jinx... but I digress. Nice one TR!
Albs next.
<makes scary troll face>
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BAWK - good job Spug and all the raiders.... now do the next when I am NOT on holiday...... Relic Raid would have only taken 10 minutes with teh powah of teh BAWK.